Outside The Lines Report

[Klamalama]

What an idiotic discussion. You can't prove a negative.

Being a native of the most conqered place on earth (Sicily), I hate all of you, but unequally.

 

[jed2410]

I just watched the OTL piece and it was trully eye opening that this ESPN expose was so candide about the darling of the $EC.

Here is an article mentioned in the ESPN OTL piece.
http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/12241989/top-alabama-recruit-lester-cotton-carries-hope-central-high-school

An the fact that BAMA has a statue built to commemorate Gov George Wallace standing in the doorway to block the intergration of the University by preventing the first black students from enrolling at BAMA. I wonder if the infamous memorial of " Stand in the school house door" is part of a recruits official visit tour of the BAMÀ campus.

Article about G Wallace
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/press-past/2013/06/11/george-wallace-stood-in-a-doorway-at-the-university-of-alabama-50-years-ago-today

Go Canes

This doesn't commemorate Wallace, it commemorates a symbolic moment in Civil Rights history. If you read the plaque you can easily see that they're saying this was the beginning of President Kennedy championing the Civil Rights Act of 1964. This was a pivotal moment in Civil rights history, and it happened on their campus. That's all the plaque is saying.

Don't insult black people by saying that these kids shouldn't want to go to SEC schools bc their racism was worse. Racism is Racism, and there has been plenty of it at ALL schools, including our very own UM, and our very own City of Miami.

 

[CentralRockets2000]

Remember Central received a racist letter from Hoover fans last year. We whooped that a$$ and ended their win streak

 

[Port Knox]

I remember it was 496 degrees that day. That game was all about survival. Kids were droppin left and right in the second half.

 

[Tad Footeball]

Things are bad around here when we have supposed actual fans of the program that'd rather be apologists for the deep south and the $EC fanbases via some straight up retarded attempts at moral equivalence plays. Effing Al Golden man. We stuck here debating nonsense with people that can't even acknowledge actual demographics. Look around the next time your dumbass is at a Canes game. Then go watch your precious SEC on tv. See if you notice any difference in amount of melanin floating around each place. So if you can't even acknowledge that pure numbers alone in each fanbase kinda make a difference then just go bad to your stupid analogy of saying that we're the same or even worse because you'd prefer someone to openly espouse blatant racism than to do it covertly like us- except when we're openly racist against Japicky.

 

[ScubaCane]

5rings, thank the homies for those rings and please save the fake stories and try to stay in context instead of blowing a guilt fuse in a futile attempt to sabotage great dialogue. The exact opposite has been said regarding your inaccurate summary of what's actually been posted. It has also been clearly stated that the ideology of race, racism and white supremacy while being started by European whites, has also infected every group of people Hispanics and black people included. Please post when U have an original idea or something to contribute. The, "I ain't the only one or they are more racist than me" approach is old, sad, and counterproductive.

Who invited the Black Panthers to the board?

I did...Black P Stone Nation...Wuz gud???

Stewardess, I speak jive

 

[HarrietTubmanCane]

Tad Foote pleeeazze lol! Your last 4 posts are str8 regurgitation of points already easily disposed of in the recycling bin. U are basically saying that the more white people belonging to a certain fanbase, the more racist the fanbase will be lol! That's a racist statement in and of itself LOL! The personal way U are choosing to comprehend this discussion is your own creation. Stop attribute your thoughts and ideas to other people's keyboards please. No kudos for any form of racism, neither the overt type nor the covert type that surprisingly continue to voluntarily align yourself with.

 

[Tad Footeball]

Tad Foote pleeeazze lol! Your last 4 posts are str8 regurgitation of points already easily disposed of in the recycling bin. U are basically saying that the more white people belonging to a certain fanbase, the more racist the fanbase will be lol! That's a racist statement in and of itself LOL! The personal way U are choosing to comprehend this discussion is your own creation. Stop attribute your thoughts and ideas to other people's keyboards please. No kudos for any form of racism, neither the overt type nor the covert type that surprisingly continue to voluntarily align yourself with.

Hahaha. So this is how far this conversation has degenerated? Yep, you're right. The pure numbers aren't a factor. Wanna talk stupid? Then I'm gonna call you a racist for negating the value and influence of every minority fan that supports the Canes. You just lumped them in with every other fanbase. For shame, HarrietTubmanGator. For shame.

 

[HarrietTubmanCane]

Dude u are running on E. Minority which actually and functionally means, "the economic loser" and not a numbers thing, doesn't necessarily negate the presence of racist views or actions. There are racists at that tailgate, their skin color doesn't dictate their beliefs nor actions. Who truly sounds dumb lol! By the way, U aren't "stuck here", U have the freedom and ability to move on to another thread drama queen.

 

[razrcane]

I live here in B'ham, and I concur with your sentiments. I'm not gonna go too far into detail, but lets just say not everyone is welcome here. Makes me sick. I've been here 5 years. My resume is all over the place trying to get out.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/billboard-white-genocide-group-ala-article-1.2074126

I've been in bhm for five years and have coached the past two...the kids don't even think about that stuff from the first post. All they know is bama roll tide and see Saban and the tide winning games. As far as the racial aspect goes I would say 90% of the kids interaction is with their friends and they rarely venture out of their neighborhood to experience the racial part. They know it's there but they ain't that concerned about it bc it's all they know.

There's some good and bad in bhm but I ain't gonna hate on the place.

 

[TreOFive]

I live here in B'ham, and I concur with your sentiments. I'm not gonna go too far into detail, but lets just say not everyone is welcome here. Makes me sick. I've been here 5 years. My resume is all over the place trying to get out.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/billboard-white-genocide-group-ala-article-1.2074126

I've been in bhm for five years and have coached the past two...the kids don't even think about that stuff from the first post. All they know is bama roll tide and see Saban and the tide winning games. As far as the racial aspect goes I would say 90% of the kids interaction is with their friends and they rarely venture out of their neighborhood to experience the racial part. They know it's there but they ain't that concerned about it bc it's all they know.

There's some good and bad in bhm but I ain't gonna hate on the place.

**** Bham!!!

 

[Biscuits]

I just watched the OTL piece and it was trully eye opening that this ESPN expose was so candide about the darling of the $EC.

Here is an article mentioned in the ESPN OTL piece.
http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/sto...ester-cotton-carries-hope-central-high-school

An the fact that BAMA has a statue built to commemorate Gov George Wallace standing in the doorway to block the intergration of the University by preventing the first black students from enrolling at BAMA. I wonder if the infamous memorial of " Stand in the school house door" is part of a recruits official visit tour of the BAMÀ campus.

Article about G Wallace
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/pr...-the-university-of-alabama-50-years-ago-today

Go Canes

In his later years, Wallace reached out to civil rights activists and appeared in black churches to ask forgiveness. In his last election as governor of Alabama, in 1982, he won with more than 90 percent of the black vote.

 

[TreOFive]

I just watched the OTL piece and it was trully eye opening that this ESPN expose was so candide about the darling of the $EC.

Here is an article mentioned in the ESPN OTL piece.
http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/sto...ester-cotton-carries-hope-central-high-school

An the fact that BAMA has a statue built to commemorate Gov George Wallace standing in the doorway to block the intergration of the University by preventing the first black students from enrolling at BAMA. I wonder if the infamous memorial of " Stand in the school house door" is part of a recruits official visit tour of the BAMÀ campus.

Article about G Wallace
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/pr...-the-university-of-alabama-50-years-ago-today

Go Canes

In his later years, Wallace reached out to civil rights activists and appeared in black churches to ask forgiveness. In his last election as governor of Alabama, in 1982, he won with more than 90 percent of the black vote.

Psychological abuse is a *****

That state has centuries of innocent blood on its hands. It will never be anything more than a reminder of old time ways. **** that place!

 

[HarrietTubmanCane]

Just goes to show what 400 + years of fear, abuse, dehumanization and brainwashing can do. This is why the efforts to minimize and claim these occurrences irrelevant ancient history is so insulting. Many black people have accepted white supremacy into the consciousness both voluntarily and mostly involuntarily. Cognitive dissonance and Stockholm's Syndrome aka assimilation is prevalent unfortunately. That post just proves the gravity, modern day relevance and effect that slavery still has.

 

[Gatorhater]

I just watched the OTL piece and it was trully eye opening that this ESPN expose was so candide about the darling of the $EC.

Here is an article mentioned in the ESPN OTL piece.
http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/12241989/top-alabama-recruit-lester-cotton-carries-hope-central-high-school

An the fact that BAMA has a statue built to commemorate Gov George Wallace standing in the doorway to block the intergration of the University by preventing the first black students from enrolling at BAMA. I wonder if the infamous memorial of " Stand in the school house door" is part of a recruits official visit tour of the BAMÀ campus.

Article about G Wallace
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/press-past/2013/06/11/george-wallace-stood-in-a-doorway-at-the-university-of-alabama-50-years-ago-today

Go Canes

This doesn't commemorate Wallace, it commemorates a symbolic moment in Civil Rights history. If you read the plaque you can easily see that they're saying this was the beginning of President Kennedy championing the Civil Rights Act of 1964. This was a pivotal moment in Civil rights history, and it happened on their campus. That's all the plaque is saying.

Don't insult black people by saying that these kids shouldn't want to go to SEC schools bc their racism was worse. Racism is Racism, and there has been plenty of it at ALL schools, including our very own UM, and our very own City of Miami.

What most people don't realize is that black in Bama voted for Wallace by huge margin. He was more on the side of the poor than he was racist. Year ago I was conducting continuing ed classes and elderly black lady from Bama was in the class. During introductions she mention she grew up in Bama. Made dad was from there so I extend the discussion with her. My father always told me the blacks in Bama voted for Wallace so I asked her about. Got to admit, like any kid, I was surprised to discover my dad was right. She loudly proclaimed that she love Wallace. If didn't have to do with him not being a racist, it was because while he was governor she got books in her elementary school, the dirt road in her neighborhood got paved and some how her got credit for her getting her first pair of shoes. See, Wallace was a populist. He supported causes for poor people against the rich. In Bama then, most blacks were poor so he was beneficial to them regardless of segregation. Education, even segregated, was good, food was good, paved roads were good, and apparently even shoes were good.

In 1980 Coral Gables was as racist as any place in Bama. Those kids came to THE U because it benefited them to, just like kids go to Bama today. I remember Playmaker talking about some activist on campus trying to gather players into some protest. Mike said something like he was getting 3 squares a day for first time in his life, like it and couldn't see any reason to protest. Politics are for people with something. Most of these kid have little and getting to NFL means more than some old political issue. You are silly if you think racist fans will stop kids from taking what they think is best road to NFL.

 

[Gsugradcanefan]

I live here in B'ham, and I concur with your sentiments. I'm not gonna go too far into detail, but lets just say not everyone is welcome here. Makes me sick. I've been here 5 years. My resume is all over the place trying to get out.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/billboard-white-genocide-group-ala-article-1.2074126

I live in Birmingham and share your sentiments. I am over here on 280 and trying like **** to get out of this state.

 

[Gatorhater]

Just goes to show what 400 + years of fear, abuse, dehumanization and brainwashing can do. This is why the efforts to minimize and claim these occurrences irrelevant ancient history is so insulting. Many black people have accepted white supremacy into the consciousness both voluntarily and mostly involuntarily. Cognitive dissonance and Stockholm's Syndrome aka assimilation is prevalent unfortunately. That post just proves the gravity, modern day relevance and effect that slavery still has.

Black slaves in Haiti slaughtered their white oppressors. In Rhodesia the blacks basically drove the white oppressors out after coming to power. That would certainly feel good and probably be justified. But now a country that once fed most of Africa now cannot feed itself. In South Africa, the blacks took more care to keep whites in the game and less attention to vengeance and came out better off for it. Southern blacks have done fairly well the last 50 years. You have to remember that the entire South, black and white, was basically poor for the 100 years following the Civil War as virtually a matter of Federal Government policy. If you think it best for Southern black to avoid obtaining degrees from the major state universities or places like Miami, I think you might be damaging their chances for a better future for the sake of your own set of beliefs.

This is America and better life has always been what drove us. Why should black kids today suffer when they can improve their lives and those of their children. You ask them to continue a fight their parents basically won rather than enjoy the fruits of the victory. The Civil Rights movement was about right and equality. It was about changing how people were treated. You would prefer to fight to control people's minds and feelings not just their actions. You seek perfection. Good luck with that. These kids want simpler things.

 

[Gsugradcanefan]

For those watching or seen ESPN's Outside The Lines report on Tuscaloosa's Central High it makes me wonder about young black athletes fascination with Alabama colleges. I know Coach Connor, he's my frat bro and I can tell you he loves those kids and the institutional and economic racism sickens him. When an African American plays for these institutions he is supporting and bringing joy to the lives of people who are dedicated to maintaining a segregated society, educational institutions and jobs opportunities. I would ask of any Bama player that is African American to look up at those 98,000 white faces and ask himself, "if I weren't a football player, would they want me here"? I'm not saying that racism doesn't exist elsewhere, but it's no more obvious than in Alabama! Bama is an institution that all Black men should be lining up to beat and make every Saturday as miserable for them as they are for the Black people in that state. Just my opinion.

Which fraternity?

 

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[HarrietTubmanCane]

Why did Africa need to fed? And I never spoke against degree pursuit or decisions to promote upward mobility. Those pursuits don't have to be cultivated or consorted with voluntarily losing ones culture and selectively ignoring history as a way to cope with it. They aren't mutually exclusive. I myself am aware and won't forget, but am able to pursue education and a better life. I don't believe we won anything. We have sovereign rights provided by our creator to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, we don't and shouldn't have ever needed to win them back from any human beings in the first place. Our goal should have never been to integrate and prove our worth to a group who we never disproved our worth to, to begin with. U should never try to win over someone or an ideology that never even considered U a player to begin with. That's insanity. I agree that it's done with now and that people have to do what they have to do, but the essence of what u are supporting and propagating is scrap culture and habitual picking up the pieces mentality. The mindset should have always been independence, reparations, and a trip back home. U think the slaves on those boats would've stayed here if freed after a few years? The restriction of resources and creation of poverty in certain areas is by design, so when do we take our experience into our own hands? It isn't about perfection, I agree that economics drives decision-making, well let's get our economic together and begin to change decision-making. These schools shouldn't eat off of any of these kids. Attend only schools who contractually give back to the community (collectively, not just individually with sports scholarships) the kids come from. Everyone else should be cut off.