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HarrietTubmanCane said:
Why did Africa need to fed? And I never spoke against degree pursuit or decisions to promote upward mobility. Those pursuits don't have to be cultivated or consorted with voluntarily losing ones culture and selectively ignoring history as a way to cope with it. They aren't mutually exclusive. I myself am aware and won't forget, but am able to pursue education and a better life. I don't believe we won anything. We have sovereign rights provided by our creator to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, we don't and shouldn't have ever needed to win them back from any human beings in the first place. Our goal should have never been to integrate and prove our worth to a group who we never disproved our worth to, to begin with. U should never try to win over someone or an ideology that never even considered U a player to begin with. That's insanity. I agree that it's done with now and that people have to do what they have to do, but the essence of what u are supporting and propagating is scrap culture and habitual picking up the pieces mentality. The mindset should have always been independence, reparations, and a trip back home. U think the slaves on those boats would've stayed here if freed after a few years? The restriction of resources and creation of poverty in certain areas is by design, so when do we take our experience into our own hands? It isn't about perfection, I agree that economics drives decision-making, well let's get our economic together and begin to change decision-making. These schools shouldn't eat off of any of these kids. Attend only schools who contractually give back to the community (collectively, not just individually with sports scholarships) the kids come from. Everyone else should be cut off.
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All good points and worthy of holding. My point is that some want to fight the fight and some want to move on. Those rights you speak of go to both and those who want to go their way should not be deemed to have done something wrong. Rights are a funny thing. If everyone doesn't have them, nobody does.

By the way, life liberty and pursuit of happiness did not make it into the Constitution. The were words from slave owning Southerner in the Declaration of Independence. Powerful words that most assume are our rights but they did not make the final cut to Federalism.
 
And some believe that fighting the fight is a form of moving on. It's actually the best form of moving forward. I'd suggest a physical moving on actually. Either of the choices are scraps and/or the choosing of lesser evils, which we've become all to we'll accustomed to, so much so, that we label the ability to lose "a little" as a success or progression. Whether or where those words are found wasn't my point. The point was that are inalienable rights every human possesses. Basically I reject scraps and every plea or human decree for my ability to self-actualize to regulated by or given to me quantitatively by a group that ignored and strip my people's humanity, never sought collective treatment after doing so, and who has now allowed me to be a consumer and be consumed (buy stuff) as a compromise for it lol!
 
Yeah and I thought Randy Shannon would have been able to recruit black kids like no one else just by pulling his black card out.

The truth is that kids today don't view things like racism and black pride as you would expect them to. They don't even care that we have a black president. To them its no big deal.

Fact may be that racist are now so far in the minority that they really have no power, meaning or influence. Racist are really more tragic than they are harmful nowadays.
 
Exactly, there is no "black card". The very thought was an act of projection from its inception. People have to understand that everyone ain't like them lol! What's happened is not normal and it's dangerous to minimize and normalize it as innate human interaction gone bad. Slavery hasn't galvanized black people as many fear. The 400 years of Willie Lynch directives, brainwashing, and fight for scraps ala consumerism/capitalism has actually done the opposite. Nationalistic pride was replaced by materialism and commercialism.
 
Having a black president has no concrete meaning, other than symbolic/appearances. The dude never met with black groups and never even promised any specific agenda/platform for black American interests. This despite him being aware of the disproportionate statistics surrounding black Americans where poverty, jobs, education, murder, arrests, incarceration, etc are concerned. He met with woman, Hispanic, and *** groups though. Having a black president was a narc injury for white America, that's all. It was of no substance for the black poor, the kids know this. It was just another mirage.
 
Gatorhater said:
HarrietTubmanCane said:
Why did Africa need to fed? And I never spoke against degree pursuit or decisions to promote upward mobility. Those pursuits don't have to be cultivated or consorted with voluntarily losing ones culture and selectively ignoring history as a way to cope with it. They aren't mutually exclusive. I myself am aware and won't forget, but am able to pursue education and a better life. I don't believe we won anything. We have sovereign rights provided by our creator to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, we don't and shouldn't have ever needed to win them back from any human beings in the first place. Our goal should have never been to integrate and prove our worth to a group who we never disproved our worth to, to begin with. U should never try to win over someone or an ideology that never even considered U a player to begin with. That's insanity. I agree that it's done with now and that people have to do what they have to do, but the essence of what u are supporting and propagating is scrap culture and habitual picking up the pieces mentality. The mindset should have always been independence, reparations, and a trip back home. U think the slaves on those boats would've stayed here if freed after a few years? The restriction of resources and creation of poverty in certain areas is by design, so when do we take our experience into our own hands? It isn't about perfection, I agree that economics drives decision-making, well let's get our economic together and begin to change decision-making. These schools shouldn't eat off of any of these kids. Attend only schools who contractually give back to the community (collectively, not just individually with sports scholarships) the kids come from. Everyone else should be cut off.
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All good points and worthy of holding. My point is that some want to fight the fight and some want to move on. Those rights you speak of go to both and those who want to go their way should not be deemed to have done something wrong. Rights are a funny thing. If everyone doesn't have them, nobody does.

By the way, life liberty and pursuit of happiness did not make it into the Constitution. The were words from slave owning Southerner in the Declaration of Independence. Powerful words that most assume are our rights but they did not make the final cut to Federalism.
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....and those that are merely content with "moving on" without fighting should have their fck'g throats slashed. Our people are languishing in this "beautiful bullsh1t" called America, and as long as there are those that want to do better, willing to do better, but can't do better because of the current power structure, then the fight must be had.
...and as it pertains to the issue of athletics, I have personally always advocated the return of the black athlete to HBCU's. Allow those individuals to generate monies that will directly impact their own communities, both economically and educationally- start a positive cycle that will undoubtedly usher in a period of "true prosperity". Moreover, the introduction of a much wider selection of self-supported, college educated black women will undoubtedly lead to more unions with said black women which, in turn, will inevitably lead to NFL/NBA/MLB monies staying put in black families. Furthermore, if a kid is good enough to turn pro after being three years removed out of high school, then that individual can "gift" his remaining scholarship to a deserving prospective student. The monies will attract the brightest minds to teach our kids and once again, the true Hebrew will be the most desirable asset to any company or organization on the entire face of the planet- the way it has always been, save for the last 600 or so years of human history....
(que the hater that doesn't want to see blacks invest in their own communities/relationships, yet will spout the "pull yourselves up by your boot straps" speech at every turn)
 
HarrietTubmanCane said:
Having a black president has no concrete meaning, other than symbolic/appearances. The dude never met with black groups and never even promised any specific agenda/platform for black American interests. This despite him being aware of the disproportionate statistics surrounding black Americans where poverty, jobs, education, murder, arrests, incarceration, etc are concerned. He met with woman, Hispanic, and *** groups though. Having a black president was a narc injury for white America, that's all. It was of no substance for the black poor, the kids know this. It was just another mirage.
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Here's something I can agree with you on. Obama was/is more of a pillar of liberalism than of any significance beyond his inauguration to black America. Economically speaking alone, African Americans are worse off today than the day he took office. The guy should end up being viewed as a liberal first before anything else if we want to discuss his actual effect. And with that, I'm checking out of here. Bob Ley should do a freakin' episode of OTL dissecting where this thread went wrong.
 
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Great posting Duvalco! Scuba and Tad, what happened is that the thread began outside of your care/consciousness and then elevated way over your heads. Obama is more of a progressive conservative where his actual policies and not race are concerned. He is still the lesser of a way larger evil, in a few ways represented on this thread.
 
HarrietTubmanCane said:
Great posting Duvalco! Scuba and Tad, what happened is that the thread began outside of your care/consciousness and then elevated way over your heads. Obama is more of a progressive conservative where his actual policies and not race are concerned. He is still the lesser of a way larger evil, in a few ways represented on this thread.
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...and "GRRRRR" @ this Gatorhater character championing the idea that blacks should just remain subservient and "go with the flow" or else the big bad white man will "cut our water off". *****, LAFF!!!
 
Now let me shut up and play the role because these pussies aren't man enough to just ban me (for what, other than telling the absolute truth *rolls eyes*) outright, lest they will have proven themselves to be just what most of us suspect/accuse them of being-Fck'g *****, nah...they just blocked my IP address so that I can't cause anymore "trouble" from home. L-O-L.
 
Duvalco.Cane said:
HarrietTubmanCane said:
Great posting Duvalco! Scuba and Tad, what happened is that the thread began outside of your care/consciousness and then elevated way over your heads. Obama is more of a progressive conservative where his actual policies and not race are concerned. He is still the lesser of a way larger evil, in a few ways represented on this thread.
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...and "GRRRRR" @ this Gatorhater character championing the idea that blacks should just remain subservient and "go with the flow" or else the big bad white man will "cut our water off". *****, LAFF!!!
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Not sure where I ever said that. It seems that you have some issues with how other blacks choose to make decisions and what those decisions are. You seem to think they must agree with you or else. I merely assert they have the right to do as they deem fit. You want to dictate their behavior; I merely assert they have rights. You want some form of communal control marching to the order of, I assume, you; I support individual rights. You assume you know what is best for others. I prefer they make independent choice. You worry about achieving goals you deem important and support surrender of individual rights to that common goal. Views such as yours have always led to some form of dictatorship by someone who knows what is best. That is not exactly a new idea. It does seem that your issue is with blacks who disagree with you not me, but if you choose to direct it toward me, feel free. Having lived through the 60's you seem a bit quaint to
 
Black people's experience in America has been worst than any modern day dictatorship. These choices are truly based on choosing the least of two or three evils. What choice have black people really made when the very starting point of our American cultural experience is rooted in anguish, abuse and servitude. These choices have been tainted from their inception. When your language, religion, manhood/womanhood, culture, body violated etc...individual rights are not the best approach to unity and galvanizing. There needs to be a group sentiment, aim, and goal. Since there was a designed effort to dehumanize us as a collective group. The remedy and approach must or should be a group directed cause as well. It's not personal GatorHata, I love your posts and opinions, but it should be understandable that U may not have the answers to the plight and continued progression of black Americans.
 
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The only rights black people should be exercising is the right to educate themselves especially as to who they truly are and directly away from who they've been directed to be, which as we see (statistically) doesn't work for us. Self-actualize via intrinsic means, not externally which is the American way.
 
I have no idea how the the true hebrew has so much time to be in here instead of out fighting the good fight?!

Mormons think native American Indians are the real jews lol. BHI is strong in this thread. Cult.
 
Convo clearly outside of the nature of your experiences, and that's perfectly fine, some just shouldn't feel the need to talk when they have nothing to really say (God complex). The use of "racebait" explains everything we need to know.
 
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