On Emmanuel Karnley...

[JHallCanes]

Working harder, not smarter is also not elite.

You gotta work harder when you’re consistently playing from behind

PAUSE

Whether it’s because of our built in disadvantages or our ineptitude on the field feels like we have constantly been fighting ourselves as much as the competition

That’s certainly not elite

 

[jsy]

On what publication?

exactly
its like flexing mark pope was a 5 star WR bc of rivals rankings

 

[DMoney]

My view is that Mario is personally an elite recruiter, but we aren't recruiting at an elite level. That's reserved for programs like Georgia, Alabama and Ohio State. Maybe Texas now.

Our biggest issue is building the brand. If Mario was at Ohio State, he'd never lose a kid. We need to overcome 20 years of bad ball.

 

[JHallCanes]

My view is that Mario is personally an elite recruiter, but we aren't recruiting at an elite level. That's reserved for programs like Georgia, Alabama and Ohio State. Maybe Texas now.

Our biggest issue is building the brand. If Mario was at Ohio State, he'd never lose a kid. We need to overcome 20 years of bad ball.

For some reason I was brought up around fans of other programs and to be fair, they think Mario is an elite recruiter because there’s one team that doesn’t belong in the top 5-10 consistently and that’s us

Some just say it’s money but most think he’s elite

Sometimes it’s good to get out of our little vacuum here

 

[Alex_Dynamix]

Got it. Momentum on the field, or lack there of, has also been argued to impact recruiting.

While money always talks, recruiting is also an ever changing game -- and currently rapidly so... being slow to adapt is not ideal.

Recruiting is 90 % and roster building is pretty much about money in this current NIL era, If your'e willing to pay top dollar, you will land top recruiting classes its really that simple now. The logos on the sides of helmet still mean something but not nearly as much as it used to.

 

[WeBallinBoyz]

Replacing:
best QB in Miami history
1,000 yards rushing and 10 TDs; no RB that’s averaged more than 10 Att/G
Top 6 receivers; no one over 150 yards returning
Starting LT
one of best kickers in the league
Best DT is sunbelt level transfer
No upgrade at LB
No upgrade at KR/PR

I’ve been trying to express this but I have failed. We are going to regress in offensive scoring by at least 10 ppg and yards by probably 100 ypg. We have not upgraded our defense enough to overcome this. The regression is going to be brutal. And I don’t think our OL will protect Beck the way they did Cam because he has great escapability. We are depending on a lot of development that we just haven’t seen from this staff. Will be a fight of a season.

Bingo. Couldn’t have summed it up better. Those are simply facts, not opinions. That’s actual production that you can’t just replace easily.

But you’ll have people just blindly say “Justin Scott szn” or “Toney is going to feast”…? What makes you remotely think those guys, with little or no playing time, can just waltz into those roles and be just as good?

Our fanbase took last season’s skill guys for granted because the end result didn’t meet expectations (postseason ball). The last four-ish games soured what was truly an amazing spectacle to watch.

“Jeremiah Smith did it as a freshman, why can’t our guys do it?” This infuriates me lol because Jeremiah Smith is a freak of nature, surefire top WR taken in the NFL draft type of player. Trader is not that. Not now, probably won’t ever be. That doesn’t mean he isn’t a good football player, I for one expect (more out of necessity) that he will have a nice 2025 season. But to just simply slot guys in as replacements for what we lost is ludicrous and beyond stupid to me. X was a beast, one of the best and most reliable slot WRs we’ve ever had in this program’s history.

Cam Ward was one of the best scrambling QBs I’ve ever witnessed in college. Carson Beck is not that, and now doesn’t have a warchest of weapons to throw to. We didn’t sustain a single major injury last season - Ryan Rodriguez or Damari Brown doesn’t count. We were extremely fortuitous to escape drastic injuries in a violent sport; history says some regression is coming.

I just don’t think people are bracing themselves for what is much more likely than last season, which is a 7-5 type caliber of year. Especially if we lose two of our first four. I mean we arguably should have lost to Cal and VT last season too, so it’s not like the 10-3 we saw was a dominant 10-3.

If this team had to suit up for a 12-game season right now, I’d say 8-4 is the most likely outcome, with 9-3 slightly more likely than 7-5. But make no mistake, 7-5 is absolutely in the realm of possibility if we don’t start expediting moves behind the scenes.

I know we’re working, but time is ticking.

 

[Bender]

@DMoney literally said a "Miami source says" before the description, then finishes it off talking about the worry about the position but that we expect to take 2-3. We ended up taking 4, with him being the 4th. You're acting like D$ was lying lol

Read the post again. Just a heads-up

 

[cway313]

My view is that Mario is personally an elite recruiter, but we aren't recruiting at an elite level. That's reserved for programs like Georgia, Alabama and Ohio State. Maybe Texas now.

Our biggest issue is building the brand. If Mario was at Ohio State, he'd never lose a kid. We need to overcome 20 years of bad ball.

A big part of that building comes from the NFL draft. Cam Ward helps a ton and hopefully Francis will next year, but we need to have 3-5 consistently drafted before Day 3.

 

[WeBallinBoyz]

A big part of that building comes from the NFL draft. Cam Ward helps a ton and hopefully Francis will next year, but we need to have 3-5 consistently drafted before Day 3.

I think Arroyo will be a nice pickup for someone too. But yes, it’s time to start producing 1st/2nd round draft picks at key positions again. DL, Edge and WR to be specific.

Development guys…development is key. Justin Scott, Lightfoot, Bain, Artavius Jones, Samson, Trader…we have to develop some of these guys. Quite simply, we haven’t lived up to the development side of these high profile and Star-studded recruits so far, stretching back to 2022. Mauigoa is the only one.

You will always have “busts”, or guys that just didn’t live up to expectations. Your Ny Carr’s, Jayden Waynes, Riley Williams, etc. That’s natural, but we have to hit on the ones we keep around.

That’s what separates us from UGA/TEX/Bama/OSU’s of the world.

 

[LMCane]

Bingo. Couldn’t have summed it up better. Those are simply facts, not opinions. That’s actual production that you can’t just replace easily.

But you’ll have people just blindly say “Justin Scott szn” or “Toney is going to feast”…? What makes you remotely think those guys, with little or no playing time, can just waltz into those roles and be just as good?

Our fanbase took last season’s skill guys for granted because the end result didn’t meet expectations (postseason ball). The last four-ish games soured what was truly an amazing spectacle to watch.

“Jeremiah Smith did it as a freshman, why can’t our guys do it?” This infuriates me lol because Jeremiah Smith is a freak of nature, surefire top WR taken in the NFL draft type of player. Trader is not that. Not now, probably won’t ever be. That doesn’t mean he isn’t a good football player, I for one expect (more out of necessity) that he will have a nice 2025 season. But to just simply slot guys in as replacements for what we lost is ludicrous and beyond stupid to me. X was a beast, one of the best and most reliable slot WRs we’ve ever had in this program’s history.

Cam Ward was one of the best scrambling QBs I’ve ever witnessed in college. Carson Beck is not that, and now doesn’t have a warchest of weapons to throw to. We didn’t sustain a single major injury last season - Ryan Rodriguez or Damari Brown doesn’t count. We were extremely fortuitous to escape drastic injuries in a violent sport; history says some regression is coming.

I just don’t think people are bracing themselves for what is much more likely than last season, which is a 7-5 type caliber of year. Especially if we lose two of our first four. I mean we arguably should have lost to Cal and VT last season too, so it’s not like the 10-3 we saw was a dominant 10-3.

If this team had to suit up for a 12-game season right now, I’d say 8-4 is the most likely outcome, with 9-3 slightly more likely than 7-5. But make no mistake, 7-5 is absolutely in the realm of possibility if we don’t start expediting moves behind the scenes.

I know we’re working, but time is ticking.

we also lost those 3 games all on the final drive of the game

so it's not like we were that far away from 13-0

two can play this game!

 

[cway313]

I think Arroyo will be a nice pickup for someone too. But yes, it’s time to start producing 1st/2nd round draft picks at key positions again. DL, Edge and WR to be specific.

Development guys…development is key. Justin Scott, Lightfoot, Bain, Artavius Jones, Samson…we have to develop some of these guys. Quite simply, we haven’t lived up to the development side of these high profile and Star-studded recruits so far, stretching back to 2022. Mauigoa is the only one.

I think we can get to 3 this year (Ward, Martinez, Arroyo). I don't see that happening in 2025, but the roster isn't set.

 

[WeBallinBoyz]

we also lost those 3 games all on the final drive of the game

so it's not like we were that far away from 13-0

two can play this game!

And this was because the offense was unbelievable right? Historically good I might add, especially on 3rd down conversion rates.

 

[TriStarCane]

And this was because the offense was unbelievable right? Historically good I might add, especially on 3rd down conversion rates.

Right. We didn’t win a game because of our defense last year. We pulled off multiple with our offense. Again - factor in at least a 10 ppg regression this year…

My biggest concern with not going balls deep in 2025 is it depends heavily on the development of younger guys , which we have not done at scale.

 

[MumbleRap]

My view is that Mario is personally an elite recruiter, but we aren't recruiting at an elite level. That's reserved for programs like Georgia, Alabama and Ohio State. Maybe Texas now.

Our biggest issue is building the brand. If Mario was at Ohio State, he'd never lose a kid. We need to overcome 20 years of bad ball.

When Mario had that Bama polo on you couldn’t tell him ****. He got who he wanted.

There’s maybe 5 coaches in America who could do what he’s done on trail since coming to Miami.

 

[MumbleRap]

When Mario had that Bama polo on you couldn’t tell him ****. He got who he wanted.

There’s maybe 5 coaches in America who could do what he’s done on trail since coming to Miami.

And all this “resources this, resources that” just because Mario has the most at UM does not mean it’s top notch. UM isn’t top 10 in resources allocated, just how it is. We’ve had many high profile commits come here for less because of relationships.

 

[JHallCanes]

A big part of that building comes from the NFL draft. Cam Ward helps a ton and hopefully Francis will next year, but we need to have 3-5 consistently drafted before Day 3.

You don’t see too many UDFA and 6-7 round picks announcing their names and universities on prime time football

 

[Trav]

My view is that Mario is personally an elite recruiter, but we aren't recruiting at an elite level. That's reserved for programs like Georgia, Alabama and Ohio State. Maybe Texas now.

Our biggest issue is building the brand. If Mario was at Ohio State, he'd never lose a kid. We need to overcome 20 years of bad ball.

What's funny is I'm old enough to remember when all those teams were just okay and not on our level. What turned the tide? Putting huge resources into Florida, particularly South FL, and starting to nab elite guys from our backyard consistently.

 

[MumbleRap]

What's funny is I'm old enough to remember when all those teams were just okay and not on our level. What turned the tide? Putting huge resources into Florida, particularly South FL, and starting to nab elite guys from our backyard consistently.

That paired with 10 years of **** football and bad press

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

we also lost those 3 games all on the final drive of the game

so it's not like we were that far away from 13-0

two can play this game!

Margin of victory over P4 teams:
24
4
1
7
22
22
28

Average: 15.4 point margin of victory

Margin of defeat to P4 teams:

5
4
1

Average: 3.3 point margin of defeat

Could have easily been 12-0 in the regular season and obviously likely beat Iowa State in the bowl if Cam plays the whole game. But also could have lost to VT (they were up to about an 85% chance to win with 11 minutes to go) and definitely should have lost to Cal.

All in all, I think our record was probably perfectly indicative of how good the team was. Could have gone 12-0, didn't lose a single game by more than 5 all year, obviously had over a 95% win expectancy against Syracuse and lost, but definitely should have lost to Cal.

 

[Trav]

That paired with 10 years of **** football and bad press

Yea it was a perfect storm of bad coaching hires and NCAA scrutiny where we couldn't get into the bag game. Why do you think everyone is crying about UM and Mario spending big on NIL even though the big programs are spending as much if not more? Because it means we're back in the game, and no one likes that.