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PODCAST: D$ and Peter vent on MTSU loss and Frankie Tinilau joins the show
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I think this scares me more than it alleviates concerns, my brotha.
**** that's sad af
I guess your agreeing with me!! The whole point of my quote was we should’ve stuck with the same offense that was successful. I don’t care if TVD can’t execute any other offense except the spread/air raid we were running with lashlee.. Al though we need to recruit to win, we need to more so win to recruit. Beat the teams your supposed to, compete with the Texas a&ms, Clemsons and tougher ACC teams. Then more elite players will come to close the gap. That simple! Great coaches over achieve!!! NOT UNDER ACHIEVE!! Hence struggling with southern miss, having a&m pretty much giving us an easy chance to win with depleted secondary and weak offense, and then of course the programs worst loss in program history MTS..
Yep, after the tremendous success of Rainman 1 , we hired Rainman 2
Uhh, wasn't Patrick Nix as Chan Gailey disciple?
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He does always say "it has to look a certain way".
Which I understand, in the trenches, but this prehistoric **** offense isn't gonna cut it. Even with much better personnel look what happened to Michigan against UGA.
Did Mario watch this while he took 6 months vetting OC candidates?
We going to find out if Mario is a true closer cause a closer closes. We will see if that record hurts cause we will lose. I think the whole Chris Johnson shot is cap.....when kids say that I think they straight up bullshyttin. Like just say u were waiting for a better offer. Jordan Battle pulled that same **** had us 2nd then decommited and chose his 3rd option. I think kids do that so less backlash in sfla.
They do but according to people here Kirby was cheeks and his offense was cheeks. I said that talent will win eventually. And rightfully so they winning
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Gotta push back on this quote and your other quote that "no one saw this coming." Perhaps no one saw exactly this result. Gattis' resume was there with the big award everyone referenced. On the outside, it looked like we grabbed "a playoff OC who'd just won the Broyles." It was the consistent argument in support.
There were tons of people - here and on twitter arguing with Gattis himself, lol - who were wondering/hoping/praying his previous approach was really just a product of "being limited by a crap QB." But, the offseason was full of concern and skepticism about what we'd look like and how TVD would look vs how he looked during his 300-yard run last season.
Personally, it was my #1 question in August: https://www.canesinsight.com/threads/my-biggest-questions-going-into-fall-camp.178845/
But, I can link/screenshot some even earlier comments/questions about how it'd look and how it better be something more/different than what we'd seen at UMich. Here's one:
I'm definitely not the only one. FAR from it. I was skeptical, cautious, and willing to wait and see if he'd come in with something more aligned to TVD's strengths and weaknesses (they're still there, maybe worse). He did not. I think part of TVD's yips are precisely because of what he's being asked to do within the scheme and playcalling. That's a rough start to your coordinator function.
There were others who had even stronger stances - saying he'd outright suck. I presume based on what he had shown and they figured it'd be the same here. I didn't go that far because there's always a chance someone adjusts. Instead, SO FAR, he's only validated concerns. If he changes now - and he already went to hurry up more last game - it feels more like an admission of guilt than the genuine understanding of what we needed most.
Their huge underutilization of the screen game is also head scratching, along with RPO which we are starting to see tick up.
Tempo and urgency are lacking
I’m hoping Mario Zo, etc are making material adjustments going forward
I do sort of agree.....but then I see I've and Flagg getting outrun badly and I'm like wtf do the coaches do about that. So Steele forgot how to coach all of a sudden? I just can't buy that....if people want to bytch about the offense go ahead. But I knew we had no wrs and they were pretty much unexplosive....I hated Brinson slow I didn't like Thad slow.....too many just regular *** dudes. I don't care what they did in HS even if it's in sfla......that's the problem most fans have they still stuck on these kids HS stats when cfb is a whole different animal.
It can't be the coaching.....these guys are seasoned and were under saban. When u put all that **** together it's talent. The NFL draft has shown us its talent. That's the only proof we have is the NFL draft and the UM NFL players results on Sundays. Let's get serious we have no elite players playing pro bowls yearly. That's the only proof we have. So everyone telling me NFL coaches can't develope our players either? So I'm suppose to believe that? We have just normal *** players fact
The last time we were a juggernaut the players performed that way year 1 in the NFL. Year 1 they dominated.....not cause of some magical pill they were dogs with talent. Our Evals were the best under butch and it showed on Saturday and Sunday. Coker was trash and those players won him a natty period
This board was traumatized Kirby starting doing things Richt never could early during his tenure. Of course they’re going to pretend like Kirby’s trash. The guy has put out some of the best defenses college football has seen and for quite some time now. There’s no way anyone can convince me his talent on defense doesn’t play up to their potential. He basically just won a championship making one side of the ball so elite it didn’t need a great offense. He’ll be called a corch because of his o but he at least makes one side of the ball elite. That’s more than anyone at Miami has done since Butch
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Here’s the crazy thing when comparing Mario to Kirby…. All Mario needed to do was hire a solid OC to run the offense….. just not whiff
Monken has a good resume but at the time of hiring wasn’t viewed as an elite addition. He’s competent and knows how to use the players and their strengths
That’s all Mario needed to do
Combine that with recruiting and we would be sitting pretty. My other gripe with Gattis is it’s not like he’s an elite WR recruiter and developer of the position. Yeah he was at Bama, but that’s an outlier, and I put more stock in what he did at Michigan
Todd Monken - Football Coach - University of Georgia Athletics
NFL and college veteran coach Todd Monken was named Offensive Coordinator at Georgia on January 17, 2020. In his first season with the Bulldogs, Monken...
dawg, you're preaching to the choir. Just lots of guys. Very very few dudes, couple dawgs, couple of fun glue/grit guys that succeeded to varying levels. But just a bunch of ham n eggers with a whole lot of institutional rot. Just a culture of guys not caring about wins or working hard enough. Every class that comes and goes sees more and more losses, each more embarrassing than the next. A tradition of giving up in games and seasons that crosses coaching eras. Its wild, b. The same **** keeps happening no matter the coach.
People can talk about the incredible star rankings of our players, but those rankings, while flawed, hold weight...but "its not a perfect science" and there are inconsistencies with star rating and success of players...many of those busts fall under a few different categories...one of those categories is when that player goes to a program with poor coaching and cultural decay...we are often one of the examples of that right alongside Texas or Washington or something. That goes on long enough, it just becomes a stench attached to the program. We see it with Nebraska at the more extreme end, as they have lost all their dignity and as a result likely need to readjust where they prioritize football.
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I just think it’s different here. Kids are looking for any excuse to not come here. We will see tho. I can’t see this class sticking together if we go 6-6 or worse. If it does then Mario is without a doubt the guy.
Brinson ain’t slow. He isn’t a blazer either but he has ok speed
We need to mimic what Arkansas is doing. OL HC and Kendall Briles-type offense. Do that here with good recruiting, and we are cooking.
