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Porter was actually solid last game in the reps he got

@DMoney when you say "there will be changes" are you hearing with actual offensive philosophy?

It's obvious not much is working.

Maybe I misheard or am reading into what Frankie said but when Mauigoa was discussed he said "hopefully we stick it out and no matter where we go we either play together or continue our bond/friendship".

Seemed a little wishy washy....

So in a month we went from this…



…to this…

Yoyo82 said:

@DMoney when you say "there will be changes" are you hearing with actual offensive philosophy?

It's obvious not much is working.

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Yes. The in-season stuff won't be as dramatic, but they know the problem runs deeper than a couple guys not executing.

Yoyo82 said:

Maybe I misheard or am reading into what Frankie said but when Mauigoa was discussed he said "hopefully we stick it out and no matter where we go we either play together or continue our bond/friendship".

Seemed a little wishy washy....

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yeah if he said that, doesn't sound very good.

DMoney said:

Yes. The in-season stuff won't be as dramatic, but they know the problem runs deeper than a couple guys not executing.

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If Mario and Zo truly realize that this offensive philopshy doesnt work then there is hope.

Hopefully Mario pulls a page from the saban playbook and brings in a failed HC to rehab as OC IE: Mullen or imho the best case scenario Scott Frost. Any chances of that here @DMoney ?

DMoney said:

Yes. The in-season stuff won't be as dramatic, but they know the problem runs deeper than a couple guys not executing.

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Hopefully Gattis and other offensive staff members aren't scapegoats and Mario realized the entire offensive philosophy is the root issue.

DMoney said:

Yes. The in-season stuff won't be as dramatic, but they know the problem runs deeper than a couple guys not executing.

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I think the natural question is why did they need to see it in-season (against mostly poor teams) to make those changes? This wasn't that difficult to predict. It's basically most people's offseason concerns (re: offensive approach) coming to reality during the first 4 (Bethune doesn't count) games. I'd be happy with a genuine change, but remain curious about how it even got to that point and if the underlying reason for not proactively addressing it still remains.

***I realize no one except a handful next to Mario have that answer. But, for the sake of the discussion...

Yoyo82 said:

Maybe I misheard or am reading into what Frankie said but when Mauigoa was discussed he said "hopefully we stick it out and no matter where we go we either play together or continue our bond/friendship".

Seemed a little wishy washy....

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That sounds no bueno. Pessimist side of me says that decoms coming if stuff doesn’t drastically change.

LuCane said:

I think the natural question is why did they need to see it in-season (against mostly poor teams) to make those changes? This wasn't that difficult to predict. It's basically most people's offseason concerns (re: offensive approach) coming to reality during the first 4 (Bethune doesn't count) games. I'd be happy with a genuine change, but remain curious about how it even got to that point and if the underlying reason for not proactively addressing it still remains.

***I realize no one except a handful next to Mario have that answer. But, for the sake of the discussion...

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The most obvious answers are usually the correct ones.

The obvious answer being they thought Tyler would be able to handle the change to a system that relies more on the QB to make the correct read and go through progressions and that the arm talent and moxie from last yr would translate

The idea on here that some people think Bama is running some super simple one read air raid passing offense with Bryce Young is hilarious. O'Brien's scheme puts more on Young that what Gattis is asking TVD to do. Everyone keeps saying, "Saban evolved, why can't Mario?!!" Do these people even watch Bama's offense? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills on here sometimes.

Yoyo82 said:

Maybe I misheard or am reading into what Frankie said but when Mauigoa was discussed he said "hopefully we stick it out and no matter where we go we either play together or continue our bond/friendship".

Seemed a little wishy washy....

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Found that interesting.

When all of the commits posted after the loss reaffirming their commitment, was Francis one of them? Dont recall seeing his.

Da Jumbo Mutombo said:

Found that interesting.

When all of the commits posted after the loss reaffirming their commitment, was Francis one of them? Dont recall seeing his.

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i thought the same thing and went and checked and he was...

Yoyo82 said:

i thought the same thing and went and checked and he was...

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LuCane said:

I think the natural question is why did they need to see it in-season (against mostly poor teams) to make those changes? This wasn't that difficult to predict. It's basically most people's offseason concerns (re: offensive approach) coming to reality during the first 4 (Bethune doesn't count) games. I'd be happy with a genuine change, but remain curious about how it even got to that point and if the underlying reason for not proactively addressing it still remains.

***I realize no one except a handful next to Mario have that answer. But, for the sake of the discussion...

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The running 'secret playbook' joke where we were hopeful that what we were seeing wasn't the actual O kept everyone from jumping on the staph, but ya, it was obvious from the Spring that this O was straight garbage and was not putting the players in a position to be aggressive and attack the other team. Question remains, if arm chair QBs could see it, why have they been so slow to adapt???

Yoyo82 said:

Maybe I misheard or am reading into what Frankie said but when Mauigoa was discussed he said "hopefully we stick it out and no matter where we go we either play together or continue our bond/friendship".

Seemed a little wishy washy....

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Please god let us keep Francis

jevoasis said:

The running 'secret playbook' joke where we were hopeful that what we were seeing wasn't the actual O kept everyone from jumping on the staph, but ya, it was obvious from the Spring that this O was straight garbage and was not putting the players in a position to be aggressive and attack the other team. Question remains, if arm chair QBs could see it, why have they been so slow to adapt???

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It was predictable. I can’t remember if I was one of those who foolishly hoped Enos had some super secret playbook he was waiting to spring open. Glad to see there’s really none of that false hope here. Gattis is what he appears to be.

LuCane said:

I think the natural question is why did they need to see it in-season (against mostly poor teams) to make those changes? This wasn't that difficult to predict. It's basically most people's offseason concerns (re: offensive approach) coming to reality during the first 4 (Bethune doesn't count) games. I'd be happy with a genuine change, but remain curious about how it even got to that point and if the underlying reason for not proactively addressing it still remains.

***I realize no one except a handful next to Mario have that answer. But, for the sake of the discussion...

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Best case scenario: TVD looked great in practice and things were working (even if we all knew of the WRs problem).
Worst case scenario: stubborness and denial.