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Who starts at QB vs Pitt?

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canefan96 said:
MATOCHA
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Would we honestly care if he did? At this point, I say go for it. Wait, is he actually still on the roster?
mirvin88 said:
Matocha time baby!






























Seriously, I'd like to at least see what he can do after all this time and not give perceived preferential treatment to the two 4 stars
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Honestly, if the dude has a good brain, I say play him. Steve Walsh didn't have the best arm on the planet, but he understood where to go with the ball, and good things happened.
 
ThomasM said:
Would we honestly care if he did? At this point, I say go for it. Wait, is he actually still on the roster?

Honestly, if the dude has a good brain, I say play him. Steve Walsh didn't have the best arm on the planet, but he understood where to go with the ball, and good things happened.
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He distributed the football to his playmakers something we have issues in doing and when we do it’s messed up.
 
Hurracanes said:
My dude, Lamar never looked this bad. Brown has struggled completing routine passes. I like the kid a lot and he has heart but I don’t think people are recognizing his inability to throw. Lamar was no where near this level.
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People get all worked up over Brown's athletic ability, and for good reason, but if he can't complete passes, it's not worth it. He missed a wide open TD against Clemson that was a dagger to the team. We can't recover from misses, because opportunities like that don't happen often. Had he hit that, it changes the game. If he hits those shots consistently, he's a very dangerous QB. As it stands, he's an athletic freak that can't lead an offense because he can't hit wide open players. I love his potential, but he is not ready to be a QB that has to actually complete passes to keep the O moving.

The Clemson game played out exactly like I thought. They'd realize he can't complete passes, so they tee off. All that rushing ability got us what, exactly? Nothing. If not for Jordan Miller understanding the importance of picking up a fumble and running towards the endzone, we go yet another game without a TD. Brown is not the answer. Not yet, at least.

My problem with this O is that it will make all of our QBs look worse than they are. It's just not a good O to run with this talent. ****, I am not sure how much talent we'd need to make it work. Even if we had all the talent to make it work, another O would STILL be better.
 
MasterBlaster said:
Agree.
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CDWright40 said:
Assuming TVD is not healthy enough to play?

11 can not throw well enough to sustain drives. Pitt has a solid DL and will sell out to stop 11 from running and force him to throw.

13 throws ok but can’t run. He also has no pocket presence and never feels the rush.

In my opinion you go 2 qb system next week and if one gets hot roll with them. We have to make Pitt think defensively.
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Start 11. 13 doesn’t have it saw all I needed to see in that UVA game
 
canes732 said:
Start 11. 13 doesn’t have it saw all I needed to see in that UVA game
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What exactly has 11 shown you he can do well enough to beat a good team? He misses wide open players. One or two nice runs a game will not keep drives going. He'd need a few of those runs each drive to sustain them, and that aint happening. Garcia is a better passer, but his decisions are a problem. Man, did this staff ever ***** up a potentially great QB room.

I think Brown can be amazing, but he needs more time, and better coaching. Garcia can be as well, with the same. Same with TVD. The thing they all have in common is this. They need better coaching, and an O that suits their abilities. None of them fit with this O. Brown can at least improvise with his legs, but that's not going to win us any games against teams with a pulse.

Bottom line. No QB is going to make this O look great, but this O sure can make three talented guys look bad in one way or another.
 
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Prior to last game everyone acted like Brown was the savior and now he's not playable? Lmao
 
BS85 said:
Prior to last game everyone acted like Brown was the savior and now he's not playable? Lmao
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Not me lol once I saw him skip a pass in during a game a few weeks ago I knew we were in trouble if we are relying on him long term
 
BS85 said:
Prior to last game everyone acted like Brown was the savior and now he's not playable? Lmao
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Only people with blinders on. I remember when we had a good team, yes, I am that old, and we'd play a one dimensional team. What happened, every single time? We whooped them. Why? Because it's easy to stop the run game when you know they can't pass, if you have the athletes on D to do so. Well, good teams have that. Bad teams usually don't. So what works against a GT will not work against Clemson. We want something that beats, or at least competes, with good teams. A one dimensional O will not do that.

Currently Brown is one dimensional. I hope he improves in the future, and if he does he will be a matchup nightmare. However, he is not there right now.
 
I would like to see Garcia back there with Brown coming in at certain spots.

I like what Brown brings to the table in certain areas. Kid is tough as nails, and has the extra dimension to make a play with his feet we haven’t seen.

But he’s just wayyyyy too far off as a passer. It’s hard to watch.

Not making excuses for Garcia but he’s also been thrown into some weird situations. Wouldn’t mind seeing what he can do with prep and knowing he will start.
 
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FSU is the only game I will give him a pass cuz he was brought in at horrible spots in the game

I’ve seen enough from Garcia
 
ThomasM said:
What exactly has 11 shown you he can do well enough to beat a good team? He misses wide open players. One or two nice runs a game will not keep drives going. He'd need a few of those runs each drive to sustain them, and that aint happening. Garcia is a better passer, but his decisions are a problem. Man, did this staff ever ***** up a potentially great QB room.

I think Brown can be amazing, but he needs more time, and better coaching. Garcia can be as well, with the same. Same with TVD. The thing they all have in common is this. They need better coaching, and an O that suits their abilities. None of them fit with this O. Brown can at least improvise with his legs, but that's not going to win us any games against teams with a pulse.

Bottom line. No QB is going to make this O look great, but this O sure can make three talented guys look bad in one way or another.
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11 hasn’t turned the ball over and he made some good throws vs Clemson. I wouldn’t be surprised if he improves from that game to the next after having the chance to review film and having that experience vs a good defensive ball club. I think Brown is best suited to win THIS game. But we shall see.
 
Tru C said:
11 hasn’t turned the ball over and he made some good throws vs Clemson. I wouldn’t be surprised if he improves from that game to the next after having the chance to review film and having that experience vs a good defensive ball club. I think Brown is best suited to win THIS game. But we shall see.
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I'll give you the good decisions angle. However, we totaled under 100 yards of offense, so I am not sure if his decision making ability is really the deciding factor.
 
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