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DMoney said:
I’m not going to complain about lack of parity. College football has always been like that, and it’s the reason many of us are Canes fans.

But the game is suffering because the rules are too favorable to the offense. We’ve seen the “best offense of all time” three years in a row. Illegal man downfield doesn’t get called and DBs have no legal options against WRs.

Anybody else dissatisfied with the direction of the game?
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Same thing happening on every sport. NBA looks like an all star game every day. MLB is all about homers and strikeouts.
Cornerback has become the hardest position to play and have success at.
Can't hardly touch the receiver and any little contact gets called in favor of the receiver.
Every hard hit draws a personal foul.
You need Deion Sanders type CBs that hate contact.
 
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The difference in baseball and basketball is that the analytics are dictating the way the game is played whereas football, it's more about taking advantage of the rules.

In baseball, the numbers say that your chances of winning significantly increase if you hit more home runs, so that's all everyone tries to do. Contact hitting actually hinders your team. The problem is, it leads to everyone striking out, walking or hitting home runs. All of which slow an already slow game to a crawl. Putting the ball in play is where the action is but it doesn't translate to more runs.

In basketball, shooting 35% on 3 point shots is better than shooting 50% on 2 point shots. So taking two pointers at any range besides right near the basket, is a losing probability. Free throws, layups/dunks and three pointers are the most efficient and effective ways to score. It makes the game weird and less enjoyable but they're playing to win, not entertain.
 
DMoney said:
I’m not going to complain about lack of parity. College football has always been like that, and it’s the reason many of us are Canes fans.

But the game is suffering because the rules are too favorable to the offense. We’ve seen the “best offense of all time” three years in a row. Illegal man downfield doesn’t get called and DBs have no legal options against WRs.

Anybody else dissatisfied with the direction of the game?
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Agree 100%! They've ruined the game to make it more like the NFL. CFB is still interesting even when it's a low scoring affair. I like defense. It should make more of an impact than it does right now. I really hope the coaches, schools and NCAA take a real look at it.

With all of the concussions and so on, the game may have permanently shifted in order to keep things safer and also preserve the game period. Don't fool yourselves, with the way this country is going, we're lucky that CFB hasn't been KO'd by the concussion brigade.
 
DMoney said:
I’m not going to complain about lack of parity. College football has always been like that, and it’s the reason many of us are Canes fans.

But the game is suffering because the rules are too favorable to the offense. We’ve seen the “best offense of all time” three years in a row. Illegal man downfield doesn’t get called and DBs have no legal options against WRs.

Anybody else dissatisfied with the direction of the game?
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Couldn’t agree more. The worst thing is all the targeting calls which in my opinion ruin the game. The call on Battle last night was a prime example of how soft the game has gotten.

On the other hand, I don’t buy the premise that it’s impossible to win with defense anymore. I mean really, what you’re saying about offenses getting out of control has been said since the 80’s....it’s not some trend in modern football....it’s been a thing since Steve Walsh and Joe Montana.

And yet, we’ve seen countless examples of teams that win with defense. It’s just that the current powerhouses in CFB are all offensive juggernauts. But that’s just a “right now” thing, not a “forever” thing IMO
 
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Reason why NFL and NBA are unwatchable. College sports more or less the same nowadays. Then suddenly flags come out when the game gets close to out of hand to keep it within reach.
 
HighSeas said:
I don't see how the rules have broken the game. It sure didn't look like it when good defenses stacked 8 in the box on Miami and dared King/Lashlee to test their corners 1on1 on the perimeter.

Analytics have warped football. Coaches know that passing is more efficient, especially play action and quick defined throws that are an extension of the run game. Sark and Joe Brady understood the value of designing offense to get the ball to your playmakers in space, especially RBs that are criminally underused in the passing game in a lot of offenses.

Good coaching staffs have all the answers to the test. When Alabama went 2-high safety OSU ran smash concept and sent the TE up the seam on a TD drive. When Alabama saw 2-deep safety looks they ran the ball or threw RPOs and perimeter screens. When they got single-high they attacked downfield to Devonta Smith. Both teams utilize slot fades or wheels w/ rub routes and Bama found ways to get their best athletes matched on slow LBs.

I'm not gonna complain that offensive coaches are smarter and design better plays now. It makes football great and it's only frustrating when your favorite team's coaches don't keep up. You won't see these "all-time offenses" caught with their pants down when Clemson puts 8 in the box and dares you to throw outside. Miami needs to do better developing WRs+OL and scheming offense. If the rules for pass coverage physicality are loosened that will only make it worse for Miami with the ****** WR play and spot drop zone giving WRs clean releases into giant voids.
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In my opinion, Miami's biggest problem on defense is not even schemes. Yeah schemes are a problem and Baker's got to go, but that's not even the biggest issue.

Our fundamentals are ****. That's to me the biggest thing that needs to be fixed.

We don't tackle for ****. You know how you can spot a good defense almost instantly? Ask yourself, does the first man to the ball carrier bring him down. That NEVER happens at Miami anymore. It used to. It doesn't anymore. Opposing teams almost always break the first tackle and get extra yards.

On running plays, is the running back falling forward or getting knocked back? At Miami, opposing backs are always getting extra yards after impact, we're hardly ever knocking running backs backward anymore.

Are you getting penetration at the line of scrimmage and keeping gap assignments and doing a good job of setting the edge? LOL not at all.

None of those are really scheme issues to me, they are issues of effort and ****** fundamentals. ****** coaching at the high school level, and ****** position coaches in college. And just a poor, lazy attitude. Until that stuff gets fixed, nothing is getting fixed. Just lining up better or running a different coverage isn't going to solve any of our deeper issues on defense IMO.
 
Next up will be baseball where a home run gets 4 scores and a double 2....4 strikes to be out or 3 balls to walk....sigh!
 
The targeting rule has to be amended, having to sit out the remainder of the current game and then the first half of the next is excessive.
Maybe sit them the remainder of the current quarter and the entire next quarter. If you get tossed in the fourth of a game then sure, carry it over to the first quarter of the next game.
 
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DMoney said:
I’m not going to complain about lack of parity. College football has always been like that, and it’s the reason many of us are Canes fans.

But the game is suffering because the rules are too favorable to the offense. We’ve seen the “best offense of all time” three years in a row. Illegal man downfield doesn’t get called and DBs have no legal options against WRs.

Anybody else dissatisfied with the direction of the game?
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I agree. The balance is terrible. If they want to have a ticky tack targeting rule for safety reasons, then they need to let up the pressure elsewhere. Because risk of getting your head taken off was part of the balance. Take that out, and DBs need to be able to be tighter and tougher.

Personally, I've always been a defense guy so I would like to see the balance return.
 
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QuattroCane said:
The targeting rule has to be amended, having to sit out the remainder of the current game and then the first half of the next is excessive.
Maybe sit them the remainder of the current quarter and the entire next quarter. If you get tossed in the fourth of a game then sure, carry it over to the first quarter of the next game.
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There needs to be 2 differnt penalties for this. An obviously unintended targeting should be no time missed by the player. At the speed this game is played at, it's nearly impossible to pull completely back in time even when attempting to. An obviously fragrant foul should cost the player a bit of time in the sin bin. Remember even if the defensive player is adjusting away from a targeting call, the offensive player may change his trajectory and the D player gets called. That's my biggest issue with the entire call: Very little onus placed on the offensive player.
 
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I'd like a rule cutting the amount of staff allowed to be on headset...that'd also give the benefit of causing Nick Saban to retire as soon as it is implemented.
 
Aside from the rules they play design is just on another level. I watched some of those plays and said Wow aloud.
 
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nycane said:
Basketball is same way. It’s stupid to watch. I hate it.
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I’m starting to feel this way too. The game has become who can shoot the most threes. No post up or inside game anymore. No mid range specialist.
 
So many Canes fans are focused on the defense that they aren't seeing they key to winning football games today. Saban outright told everyone before the season started and Devonte Smith winning the Heisman put an exclamation point on it. Offense wins championships. The idea of shutting down a high powered offense is an anachronism. A good defense doesn't keep a top offense off the scoreboard, it stops the bleeding enough that your own high powered offense can keep the lead. The bigger problem in the Clemson game wasn't that Miami's defense gave up 42 points to Clemson. The problem was that Miami didn't score 43 points. I didn't expect Miami to beat UNC 27-10. I expected us to win 47-42. How did UF come within one bad clock management decision of beating Bama in the SEC championship game? You can't say UF caught Bama by surprise like Ole Miss might have. Offense. Pitts and Toney are unbelievable weapons and then they got contributions other WRs as well. Miami has one reliable WR. ONE. Mike Harley is a solid #2 WR but he isn't a game breaker. This is the school that produced Michael Irvin, Andre Johnson, and Santana Moss. What happened to our WR room? This year Miami had two good TEs (including the #1 TE in the country out of HS), but they weren't utilized effectively in tandem. When Jordan was out, Mallory got the ball. When Jordan was back, Mallory didn't get the ball. It doesn't matter if Miami gets Venables as DC next year, we still don't have any WRs and Lashlee isn't as inventive an OC as I expected. That's going to be responsible for more wins/losses than the defense.
 
DMoney said:
The 3-yard downfield rule is making college football look like Arena league. It is unstoppable if you have the right personnel.
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Best score for a game is around 31-27. Has everything in it. Scoring mixed with some good D.
 
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