Todays practice 31st

[paksat]

You realize the observers are only watching the first few minutes of practice, right?

The sample size is too small and you’re too emotional if your soul is already shattered. Go to church.

your blind optimism is admirable, but this is year 3 and we still have a massive question mark at the most important position on the field

 

[KrazyCane]

If Malik wins the job it's bc he earned it and I would expect him to be better than last year obviously....

This narrative that if he wins we need to question our coaches qb evaluation skills is the dumbest shxt being said for the upcoming season... lol there's always that one dumb narrative that trumps all on this site per season.

Nkosi and Jarren were being recruited across the country as elite qbs so save the status quo simple minded logic for once

 

[sfowler06]

I wouldn't be surprised if Williams is a little bit ahead of Nkosi already. (or more polished I should say, not ahead of him on the depth chart)
High school coaching/development matters when it comes to college readiness and I'll bet the house that Williams had better coaching. (since Perry didn't even know how to read coverages when he got here)

It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. Williams ain't no slouch.

Williams got coached by the same guy that coached Deshaun Watson so I would agree...

 

[Canes82]

So

Then why dont your 2 cents include all the comments I've made previously about nkosi? If you only know a small piece of a full story it doesn't make sense to simply jump on board for the **** of it. Anyone thats been here for awhile knows ive been critical & encouraged by both nkosi & jarren. Jarren in particular ive been very critical of & for good reason. You dont complain about that nor that groupie who made the comment you're speaking towards. Me i dont care about anyone elses views because im my own man. I have my own opinions. right or wrong it's MY opinion. Simply an opinion just like yours. See how simple that is. Oh & im not sure if you've ever played football or not but as anyone whose ever played or been around quarterbacks would be able to tell you most quarterbacks that are worth speaking about what seperates one from the other is in large part all of the field. It's a mentality, it's an approach, it's leadership qualities, it's work ethic. Thats all i was really REALLY impressed with by jarren. Don't care if anyone feels thats an agenda. Not to bright to see it that way but on here I'm not surprised in the least any longer. Now what happens on the field will tell the rest of the story. See how simple that is.

Lots of gas. Gotta love the reach on “if you’ve played the game”. Emotional.

The same cat crying cuz Perry enjoys college. ***c off.

Dudes a groupie because he disagreed with you? That’s rich.

I don’t need to see your positive comments about Perry. My original point still remains, you went out of your way to praise Williams on basic things.....while ****ting on Perry. And you did it before practice even started. It didn’t make sense then and it doesn’t make sense now. It “felt” like an agenda. If you don’t have one, just ignore my post and keep it moving. See how simple that is?

Just be careful about the things you put out there on a public forum.

 

[Brooklyndee]

You realize deejay only played that one season at qb right? Hes said himself it wasnt natural for him but **** do whatever is necessary for his team. Im not trying to argue simply pointing something out. Serious question though. Are you suggesting this as a starting qb option or a package? As much as i cant stand malik i personally just cant see deejay at qb as an option unless were supposed to run the wishbone or triple option. Just cant see deejays passings skills if a defense has to account for it as being any better than maliks (and that says alot)

I agree about Williams. "Control" is a great way to describe the little bit I've seen on practice film. On the play-action rollout drill Malik was off balance and airmailed the ball (no excuse), N'Kosi didn't throw a very catchable ball (high velocity duck), Cade's footwork was sloppy (at top of the PA), and Jarren looked the most polished and comfortable in all aspects.

That was big to me because they're playing against air without a pass-rush, and the details matter. You play the way you practice and, to me, Malik may have some gamer in him but he lacks focus and consistency. I haven't seen a whole lot, but just based on the above I could see a scenario where Jarren gets the job. Malik would be a great #2 QB, because he's fearless, but his poor focus limits our offensive ceiling. N'Kosi has enough time in the system to let his athleticism and natural talent take over but for some reason (consistency?) he hasn't separated himself, which is concerning.

None of these QBs need to be all-world, but they do need to execute the offense and get the ball to playmakers, on time. In the rollout drill Jarren did that and I don't want to make a big deal from one play but Jarren (a TF) should never look more "in control" than Malik (a RSR).

Also, we can't give up on Burns because dude has the most physical talent in the room; tremendous size, speed, and power combination. The only thing I want to know is if he still has the speed he came in with after adding all that weight. That said, they aren't close to Portis, Willis & Frank, but I'm not at practice and would defer to @Brooklyndee if he thought differently.

far as burns goes, while i think he looked great yesterday and feel there's definitely a spot for him hes without question the 4th back at best. Homer is gonna have a **** of a year if whoever wins the qb spot can make the defense respect the pass instead of simply stacking the box. Lo has a ceiling higher than the rest. Reminds me of Willis with his build and explosion. Deejay simply gets in where he fits in. Has a crazy motor and refuses to quit. Great vision. Burns seems to have lost his explosion with the added weight. He runs hard and punishes on contact. For me he may be a 3rd down back of deejay isnt. But none of that is even close to a room of edge,clint,frank & willis. Thats 4 hof (3 for sure). Just take it as it is knowing it's still one **** of a depth chart. Cam is the unknown.

 

[Pearson704]

far as burns goes, while i think he looked great yesterday and feel there's definitely a spot for him hes without question the 4th back at best. Homer is gonna have a **** of a year if whoever wins the qb spot can make the defense respect the pass instead of simply stacking the box. Lo has a ceiling higher than the rest. Reminds me of Willis with his build and explosion. Deejay simply gets in where he fits in. Has a crazy motor and refuses to quit. Great vision. Burns seems to have lost his explosion with the added weight. He runs hard and punishes on contact. For me he may be a 3rd down back of deejay isnt. But none of that is even close to a room of edge,clint,frank & willis. Thats 4 hof (3 for sure). Just take it as it is knowing it's still one **** of a depth chart. Cam is the unknown.

wow.

 

[Brooklyndee]

Everyone hopes Burns can shake the injury bug. But until they start scrimmaging and being tackled for real we won’t know a bit about Burns and whether he has turned the corner. He looks awesome running drills because he has incredible talent. That’s never been a question. The only question on him is durability, and that hasn’t been answered in any way yet.

I’d love to see him make it through a season before I start buying in. Get 30 carries. Survive a season. And build on that.

Lots of gas. Gotta love the reach on “if you’ve played the game”. Emotional.

The same cat crying cuz Perry enjoys college. ***c off.

Dudes a groupie because he disagreed with you? That’s rich.

I don’t need to see your positive comments about Perry. My original point still remains, you went out of your way to praise Williams on basic things.....while ****ting on Perry. And you did it before practice even started. It didn’t make sense then and it doesn’t make sense now. It “felt” like an agenda. If you don’t have one, just ignore my post and keep it moving. See how simple that is?

Just be careful about the things you put out there on a public forum.

All this from the person who felt obligated to get the last word... you call me emotional yet you somehow get to the conclusion that anything i said myself shots on nkosi... lmao and if you think any of what i stated comprises basic qb traits than you're proving precisely how far we've actually dropped at the position cause previously it wasn't present. Thats what i have to say on this public forum. Ill anxiously await ur response. Good bye for now.

 

[Brooklyndee]

Everyone hopes Burns can shake the injury bug. But until they start scrimmaging and being tackled for real we won’t know a bit about Burns and whether he has turned the corner. He looks awesome running drills because he has incredible talent. That’s never been a question. The only question on him is durability, and that hasn’t been answered in any way yet.

I’d love to see him make it through a season before I start buying in. Get 30 carries. Survive a season. And build on that.

Id agree on basically all points chise but one thing i wanna point out is the only people not playing through contact right now is the qb. Were spending a good portion of practice daily now in full contact 11 on 11. The defense is out there lighting people up daily. I told yall just the other day amari made one of the biggest hits ive ever seen on lo. Definitely would love to see him hold up throughout a season though. Can be a decent piece in third downs.

 

[brock]

Id agree on basically all points chise but one thing i wanna point out is the only people not playing through contact right now is the qb. Were spending a good portion of practice daily now in full contact 11 on 11. The defense is out there lighting people up daily. I told yall just the other day amari made one of the biggest hits ive ever seen on lo. Definitely would love to see him hold up throughout a season though. Can be a decent piece in third downs.

Is jhavontae dean taking the next step at cb or do you expect one of the youngins to take the spot?

Can’t wait to watch Lorenzo Lingard play man

 

[immars]

If Malik wins the job it's bc he earned it and I would expect him to be better than last year obviously....

This narrative that if he wins we need to question our coaches qb evaluation skills is the dumbest shxt being said for the upcoming season... lol there's always that one dumb narrative that trumps all on this site per season.

Nkosi and Jarren were being recruited across the country as elite qbs so save the status quo simple minded logic for once

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If Malik is the starting qb in 2018 it isn’t necessarily because he WON the job. It could also be because he may not have lost it. Meaning he is the safer option because Perry didn’t grab it, because Jwilliams is just a tad too green, etc... we will only have a glimpse of the potential “why” when we are a couple games in. If Rosier’s 2017 shortcomings become glaring, then we will know that he “held on” to job, and didn’t particularly earn it. That is very much a possibility. Just depends on ones level of synicism.

I for one do not believe Rosier will improve that much more from the 2017 version. Which says a great deal of CMR as a coach that we won 10 games with him. I am hoping he is not our QB because my opinion is he limits CMR and the type of offense he would like to run. So yes, I prefer either of the other QBs.

 

[Brooklyndee]

Is jhavontae dean taking the next step at cb or do you expect one of the youngins to take the spot?

Can’t wait to watch Lorenzo Lingard play man

I think jhavonte is looking good. Doubt (unless maybe it's trajan who i feel wed rather keep at nickel for the sake of slot)any of the jits take his spot if its apples to apples. Theyll get plenty of burn but i doubt it's in spite of him.

 

[Brooklyndee]

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If Malik is the starting qb in 2018 it isn’t necessarily because he WON the job. It could also be because he may not have lost it. Meaning he is the safer option because Perry didn’t grab it, because Jwilliams is just a tad too green, etc... we will only have a glimpse of the potential “why” when we are a couple games in. If Rosier’s 2017 shortcomings become glaring, then we will know that he “held on” to job, and didn’t particularly earn it. That is very much a possibility. Just depends on ones level of synicism.

I for one do not believe Rosier will improve that much more from the 2017 version. Which says a great deal of CMR as a coach that we won 10 games with him. I am hoping he is not our QB because my opinion is he limits CMR and the type of offense he would like to run. So yes, I prefer either of the other QBs.

To be clear thats my concern as well. which im not sure people realize. Thats the only reason he started last year. If they don't separate he'll just go with the safest option being the known commodity. To me that means no one won the job. It was simply gave by default.

 

[The Franchise]

Id agree on basically all points chise but one thing i wanna point out is the only people not playing through contact right now is the qb. Were spending a good portion of practice daily now in full contact 11 on 11. The defense is out there lighting people up daily. I told yall just the other day amari made one of the biggest hits ive ever seen on lo. Definitely would love to see him hold up throughout a season though. Can be a decent piece in third downs.

Thanks, Dee. I didn't know there was that much contact going on yet.

I still want to see Burns hold up for at least a season before I buy in. He's also too heavy now, so who knows what will happen with him.

 

[Brooklyndee]

Thanks, Dee. I didn't know there was that much contact going on yet.

I still want to see Burns hold up for at least a season before I buy in. He's also too heavy now, so who knows what will happen with him.

Yeah i think he needs to drop a few pounds to get his explosion back. Maybe the added weight is what's neededto keep him healthy though. I'm sure that's what cmr & gus are thinking.

 

[Pearson704]

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If Malik is the starting qb in 2018 it isn’t necessarily because he WON the job. It could also be because he may not have lost it. Meaning he is the safer option because Perry didn’t grab it, because Jwilliams is just a tad too green, etc... we will only have a glimpse of the potential “why” when we are a couple games in. If Rosier’s 2017 shortcomings become glaring, then we will know that he “held on” to job, and didn’t particularly earn it. That is very much a possibility. Just depends on ones level of synicism.

I for one do not believe Rosier will improve that much more from the 2017 version. Which says a great deal of CMR as a coach that we won 10 games with him. I am hoping he is not our QB because my opinion is he limits CMR and the type of offense he would like to run. So yes, I prefer either of the other QBs.

It's not gonna take that much to unseat Malik and I think Williams has enough time between now and the fall camp to make his case. It's all about execution/tempo and I think the coaches would love for someone else to step up. Malik can be insufferable with his low energy and meandering pace.

 

[reg]

Regardless what happens at qb, I have faith Richt will choose one of the QBs, the OLine is THE most important thing imo. If our OL steps the **** up, especially in the run game (they were pretty good in the pass game last yr), we will have an elite offense. I really hope the ******* OLine steps up, but I don't think we'll know much about their progress until summer camp.

Huh?.......I would hope so!

If he doesn't choose one of the QB's to be our QB, I would like to see Gerald Willis get a crack at it. LSU won't know what hit them!! Chess not checkers!!

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

Huh?.......I would hope so!

If he doesn't choose one of the QB's to be our QB, I would like to see Gerald Willis get a crack at it. LSU won't know what hit them!! Chess not checkers!!

This would be three-dimensional chess, like they play on Star Trek. It would show Rick is 30 moves ahead of everyone else. I’m all about it.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

Thanks, Dee. I didn't know there was that much contact going on yet.

I still want to see Burns hold up for at least a season before I buy in. He's also too heavy now, so who knows what will happen with him.

I remember reading his weight the other day, forgot exactly what it was, but it sounded a little on the pudgy side, unless he’s just all muscled out. Has anybody seen him? Is he a fatbody or is he muscled up?

 

[JG13]

Thanks for the info and opinions Dee...much appreciated.

 

[Brooklyndee]

I remember reading his weight the other day, forgot exactly what it was, but it sounded a little on the pudgy side, unless he’s just all muscled out. Has anybody seen him? Is he a fatbody or is he muscled up?

Ill put it this way. My first thought was of coach soldinger when i first saw burns. If youre a long time cane youll know what i mean. But i was pleasantly surprised cause i havent been expecting ANYTHING out of him.