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Thoughts on the class

DMoney said:
This class is not underrated or overrated. It is what it’s ranked: 17th in the country, with room to move a couple spots by February. For a honeymoon class, it’s disappointing. Manny is not a good recruiter and his on-field product stinks. By the same token, it’s better than it should have been. So your opinion of this class really depends on your perspective.

My perspective on recruiting has shifted. I used to stress about landing the Top 5 class which would propel us to the next level. But that’s not going to happen. Recruiting won’t save us. We’ve landed Top 5 classes that didn’t change anything. Since 2005, we’ve finished Top 15 in recruiting ten times. We’ve only finished in the Top 15 on the field once. Until we bridge that gap, everything else doesn’t really matter.

This class is about holding steady. We will probably have a new head coach by 2021. You don’t want him to have to deal with dead weight. And in that respect, this class did its job. There isn’t a lot of fat. We have a positive blue-chip ratio of 11 four-stars and 8 three-stars. The class average (89.91) is one of our best in the past 15 years, second only to 2018. These are good players joining the program.

Two things will make or break this class. The first is Tyler Van Dyke. We don’t know what we have at QB until he’s on the field with live bullets. But the tools are all there. More than anything, he needs to be a no-maintenance leader. We’ve had too few of those at the QB position. If he's the real deal, this class will look a lot different.

The second is character. The guys that sign with us always seem like high-character kids, and the kids that don’t are always drama queens. Somehow, that perception changes by the time the recruits become college seniors. Right now, the reports are glowing. Guys like Chaney, Restrepo, Rivers, Chantz, Redding, Austin-Cave and others have impeccable reputations. Let’s hope they bring that attitude to Greentree this spring.

The staff deserves any heat they get. They were played by obvious trolls and botched OL and DB recruiting. But let’s take a moment to appreciate the kids who signed here. Watch their film, share their NSD pictures and welcome them to the family on social media. Maybe one day they will be part of the solution.
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Third thing and most important thing for this class. Who in the **** is going to develop these guys. I have zero confidence in this staff. Anybody can teach them how to put on the touchdown rings. Even though with Enos's offense there might not be a lot of chances.
 
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DMoney said:
This class is not underrated or overrated. It is what it’s ranked: 17th in the country, with room to move a couple spots by February. For a honeymoon class, it’s disappointing. Manny is not a good recruiter and his on-field product stinks. By the same token, it’s better than it should have been. So your opinion of this class really depends on your perspective.

My perspective on recruiting has shifted. I used to stress about landing the Top 5 class which would propel us to the next level. But that’s not going to happen. Recruiting won’t save us. We’ve landed Top 5 classes that didn’t change anything. Since 2005, we’ve finished Top 15 in recruiting ten times. We’ve only finished in the Top 15 on the field once. Until we bridge that gap, everything else doesn’t really matter.

This class is about holding steady. We will probably have a new head coach by 2021. You don’t want him to have to deal with dead weight. And in that respect, this class did its job. There isn’t a lot of fat. We have a positive blue-chip ratio of 11 four-stars and 8 three-stars. The class average (89.91) is one of our best in the past 15 years, second only to 2018. These are good players joining the program.

Two things will make or break this class. The first is Tyler Van Dyke. We don’t know what we have at QB until he’s on the field with live bullets. But the tools are all there. More than anything, he needs to be a no-maintenance leader. We’ve had too few of those at the QB position. If he's the real deal, this class will look a lot different.

The second is character. The guys that sign with us always seem like high-character kids, and the kids that don’t are always drama queens. Somehow, that perception changes by the time the recruits become college seniors. Right now, the reports are glowing. Guys like Chaney, Restrepo, Rivers, Chantz, Redding, Austin-Cave and others have impeccable reputations. Let’s hope they bring that attitude to Greentree this spring.

The staff deserves any heat they get. They were played by obvious trolls and botched OL and DB recruiting. But let’s take a moment to appreciate the kids who signed here. Watch their film, share their NSD pictures and welcome them to the family on social media. Maybe one day they will be part of the solution.
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one of your best posts ever. should be required reading by the slurpers and hecht shills.
 
DMoney said:
This class is not underrated or overrated. It is what it’s ranked: 17th in the country, with room to move a couple spots by February. For a honeymoon class, it’s disappointing. Manny is not a good recruiter and his on-field product stinks. By the same token, it’s better than it should have been. So your opinion of this class really depends on your perspective.

My perspective on recruiting has shifted. I used to stress about landing the Top 5 class which would propel us to the next level. But that’s not going to happen. Recruiting won’t save us. We’ve landed Top 5 classes that didn’t change anything. Since 2005, we’ve finished Top 15 in recruiting ten times. We’ve only finished in the Top 15 on the field once. Until we bridge that gap, everything else doesn’t really matter.

This class is about holding steady. We will probably have a new head coach by 2021. You don’t want him to have to deal with dead weight. And in that respect, this class did its job. There isn’t a lot of fat. We have a positive blue-chip ratio of 11 four-stars and 8 three-stars. The class average (89.91) is one of our best in the past 15 years, second only to 2018. These are good players joining the program.

Two things will make or break this class. The first is Tyler Van Dyke. We don’t know what we have at QB until he’s on the field with live bullets. But the tools are all there. More than anything, he needs to be a no-maintenance leader. We’ve had too few of those at the QB position. If he's the real deal, this class will look a lot different.

The second is character. The guys that sign with us always seem like high-character kids, and the kids that don’t are always drama queens. Somehow, that perception changes by the time the recruits become college seniors. Right now, the reports are glowing. Guys like Chaney, Restrepo, Rivers, Chantz, Redding, Austin-Cave and others have impeccable reputations. Let’s hope they bring that attitude to Greentree this spring.

The staff deserves any heat they get. They were played by obvious trolls and botched OL and DB recruiting. But let’s take a moment to appreciate the kids who signed here. Watch their film, share their NSD pictures and welcome them to the family on social media. Maybe one day they will be part of the solution.
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I hope your right about 2021 and a new (likely first timer) head coach, but our 2020 schedule makes me think we will start 2021 with Manny at the helm getting his teeth kicked in by Saban.

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The Miami brand recruited this class. Manny and his incompetency did everything it could to blow it. The only silver lining is knowing that despite over a decade of mediocrity culminating in this current dumpster fire, we can still get above average recruiting classes. One day when a competent AD and HC are in place , this program will return to glory
 
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Top 20 class or whatever it is, great. Don't know how many of these guys step into significant roles next year - maybe RB, WR, LB, DE or even QB. What determines the fate of Manny & his coaching staff will be the development of the young talent already on the roster. If they're not capable, then they're toast.
 
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Like I’ve stated before. If Miami doesn’t have the bags to compete with Clemson, Oregon, OSU and the entire SEC. I’m perfectly fine with Miami landing classes outside of the top 15 if we’re taking less kids (17 or less) and developing/getting most out of these kids. What Schools like UTAH, Wisconsin, Iowa, Minnesota and UCF. Have been doing with less talent, is remarkable and shows a testament to great coaching. I’m just not sure we have that kind of coach.
 
Liberty City El said:
We needed depth at LB, CB & OL and we swung & miss big time at those spots.

Great RB haul, the only WR I like is Redding, solid TE in Mammarelli & TVD is talented but Enox's offense is garbage so there's the great neutralizer.

I love Tirek Austin-Cave, Quentin Williams, Elijah Roberts & Jalen Harrell on Defense, great pieces who should be contributors eventually.

Marcus Clarke is good prospect with upside, but will need a few years of development, we needed a playable day 1 CB in this class & we failed at bringing one in. Better hope Bandy doesn't declare.

I like Jalen Harrell & Brian Balom for the Safety haul, not sold on Washington. Could've used a ballhawk in this group as well, but *shrugs*...

Tirek Austin-Cave aside from Don Chaney is my favorite recruit in this class, thank God he's an EE, him, Sam Brooks & Huff will be a fun, fast, athletic & green group for the LB corps... That is of course if Diaz, Baker & Patke aren't stupid enough to have the 3 of them standing on the bench behind slower & maxed out guys like McCloud & Jennings, which they probably will lol.

Roberts, (hopefully) Moise & Quentin Williams will be great depth adds to an already strong DL. Not high on Chantz like everybody else is, but he's at least talented.

Rivers is a very good prospect, future RT imo, unfortunately, he'll be coached by arguably the worst Corch on staff in Botch Berry, so who knows how he's developed. Same with Chris Washington, high upside, good promising prospect, terrible coach teaching him, so there's no telling if he ever reaches his ceiling here.

Chaney is a future NFL caliber back imo, the best RB we've landed since Duke, I'm certain Enox will have him standing on the sideline all year long. But glad we got him. Knighton reminds me Lamichael James, great talent.

Restrepo, the people's champ. Good slot WR, will be the board's favorite player. Redding imo has Jeremy Maclin at Mizzou type upside, however in this offense will probably be underutilized, unfortunate.

Overall, solid class, some good prospects, a bunch of misses & didn't address our glaring depth issues at multiple spots. Hit the portal & pray.

Enox, Barry, Patke, Baker & at least two more need to be fired, none will, Manny's clock is ticking.
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Pretty much agree on every point. Can't waste the talent we did bring in.
 
For 6-6 with the loses to GT, FIU and Duke; we should all be thankful for what we got. D$ is spot on tho, recruiting doesn’t = on field success for us. While we still need strong classes, we need strong coaching staffs more. And... we haven’t really hit on a QB since Dorsey, that’s a big issue.
 
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Spot on assessment of this class. I see it as a failure only because we didn't address our biggest weakness, OL. We got a good one in Rivers, but struck out on the rest of the quality OL, that's what happens when you suck on the field and let FIU kick your ***. What we need most is a real coach and a quality staff, until then expect the same **** show.
 
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Waaaaaaaaay better than it should have been considering the staph sucks as recruiting and the product on the field is so bad.

just makes you wonder how good it could get IMMEDIATELY with coaches that actually knew WTF they were doing both on and off the field.
 
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