Some Ermon Lane Tidbits

[UMFarArcher]

Thread degradation epic.

 

[User-4525]

WR isn't a position of need but when you constantly miss on elite talent in your backyard it's going to go against you in the long run.

The key query is "why are we 'constantly' missing on elite talent in our backyard." I'm sure the answer is complex and probably varies to some degree by player. I don't know the answer, but I hope it isn't Al and his staff. By most accounts, Al is one of the top recruiters in the country, so it's hard for me to believe that Al is the problem.

There's also a faulty assumption that we "constantly miss on elite talent" in our backyard.

I never said Al was the problem. Al isnt the only recruiter/evaluator on the staff. The whole staff recruits and evaluates players for their respective positions/recruiting region. Im not going to list the kids we've missed on because everyone will just lose their mind & defend each loss. If you can't see we've missed on kids in our backyard, I'm not sure what to tell you. Has our recruiting been bad? Not at all. We still got elite talent like Artie burns and coley. Add Jamal carter in there too. We've gotten local kids to buy into our program which is on the rise. We also have made great OOS pickups in corn elder, Figueroa, Griffen, AQM, & Olsen just to name a few. Not to mention all this comes with the NCAA down our throats & coaches using that for negative recruiting. I just said we can justify the losses from our backyard but it's never good to miss on hometown players that can contribute heavily to your program within their first two years.

 

[The Franchise]

WR isn't a position of need but when you constantly miss on elite talent in your backyard it's going to go against you in the long run.

The key query is "why are we 'constantly' missing on elite talent in our backyard." I'm sure the answer is complex and probably varies to some degree by player. I don't know the answer, but I hope it isn't Al and his staff. By most accounts, Al is one of the top recruiters in the country, so it's hard for me to believe that Al is the problem.

There's also a faulty assumption that we "constantly miss on elite talent" in our backyard.

That's why I put quotation marks around constantly.

Seemed as though you were accepting his theory and working with it when you looked for an answer to his query in your next sentence. Might have been too subtle of a point for my Neanderthal mind to decipher, sir.

 

[hasena75]

I would rather take Cook over Lane if we had to choose and I am sure most of you feel the same

 

[Ibis Wingz]

WR isn't a position of need but when you constantly miss on elite talent in your backyard it's going to go against you in the long run.

The key query is "why are we 'constantly' missing on elite talent in our backyard." I'm sure the answer is complex and probably varies to some degree by player. I don't know the answer, but I hope it isn't Al and his staff. By most accounts, Al is one of the top recruiters in the country, so it's hard for me to believe that Al is the problem.

There's also a faulty assumption that we "constantly miss on elite talent" in our backyard.

That's why I put quotation marks around constantly.

Seemed as though you were accepting his theory and working with it when you looked for an answer to his query in your next sentence. Might have been too subtle of a point for my Neanderthal mind to decipher, sir.

I can see where you would think that because the subsequent sentences are based on that assumption. Having said that, I haven't accepted that assumption because, in my mind, Al hasn't constantly missed on local elite talent, and has, in fact, signed some pretty highly regarded local players since he's been in CG.

 

[The Franchise]

WR isn't a position of need but when you constantly miss on elite talent in your backyard it's going to go against you in the long run.

The key query is "why are we 'constantly' missing on elite talent in our backyard." I'm sure the answer is complex and probably varies to some degree by player. I don't know the answer, but I hope it isn't Al and his staff. By most accounts, Al is one of the top recruiters in the country, so it's hard for me to believe that Al is the problem.

There's also a faulty assumption that we "constantly miss on elite talent" in our backyard.

I never said Al was the problem. Al isnt the only recruiter/evaluator on the staff. The whole staff recruits and evaluates players for their respective positions/recruiting region. Im not going to list the kids we've missed on because everyone will just lose their mind & defend each loss. If you can't see we've missed on kids in our backyard, I'm not sure what to tell you. Has our recruiting been bad? Not at all. We still got elite talent like Artie burns and coley. Add Jamal carter in there too. We've gotten local kids to buy into our program which is on the rise. We also have made great OOS pickups in corn elder, Figueroa, Griffen, AQM, & Olsen just to name a few. Not to mention all this comes with the NCAA down our throats & coaches using that for negative recruiting. I just said we can justify the losses from our backyard but it's never good to miss on hometown players that can contribute heavily to your program within their first two years.

There's a HUGE difference between stating that we've missed on some elite talent in our backyard and what you stated in your prior post. You claimed that we "constantly" miss on elite talent in our backyard, and that's simply not true.

Listen here. We have ALWAYS "missed" on elite talent in our backyard. The great Freckled One, Bytch Davis, missed on plenty of local guys that we were all screaming about back in the day when he built the greatest roster in the history of college football. I'm one of those dudes who trusts The Don's evaluation and recruiting skills, so I'm not going to nitpick him "missing" a guy here or there, especially with all the money flying around down here trying to buy recruits and when you realize exactly how hard it's been for him recruiting against this ncaa **** for 2 plus years.

Take a big picture view. Realize that UM has won its NCs relying HEAVILY on out-of-state recruits. Realize that many of the best players in the history of the program were from outside S. FL. Realize the ncaa cloud will be gone soon, and the field will be significantly more level at that point. Everyone who knows the truth knows that The Don, if he's anything, is a MONSTER recruiter. We're in good hands.

 

[Ibis Wingz]

WR isn't a position of need but when you constantly miss on elite talent in your backyard it's going to go against you in the long run.

The key query is "why are we 'constantly' missing on elite talent in our backyard." I'm sure the answer is complex and probably varies to some degree by player. I don't know the answer, but I hope it isn't Al and his staff. By most accounts, Al is one of the top recruiters in the country, so it's hard for me to believe that Al is the problem.

There's also a faulty assumption that we "constantly miss on elite talent" in our backyard.

I never said Al was the problem. Al isnt the only recruiter/evaluator on the staff. The whole staff recruits and evaluates players for their respective positions/recruiting region. Im not going to list the kids we've missed on because everyone will just lose their mind & defend each loss. If you can't see we've missed on kids in our backyard, I'm not sure what to tell you. Has our recruiting been bad? Not at all. We still got elite talent like Artie burns and coley. Add Jamal carter in there too. We've gotten local kids to buy into our program which is on the rise. We also have made great OOS pickups in corn elder, Figueroa, Griffen, AQM, & Olsen just to name a few. Not to mention all this comes with the NCAA down our throats & coaches using that for negative recruiting. I just said we can justify the losses from our backyard but it's never good to miss on hometown players that can contribute heavily to your program within their first two years.

There's a HUGE difference between stating that we've missed on some elite talent in our backyard and what you stated in your prior post. You claimed that we "constantly" miss on elite talent in our backyard, and that's simply not true.

Listen here. We have ALWAYS "missed" on elite talent in our backyard. The great Freckled One, Bytch Davis, missed on plenty of local guys that we were all screaming about back in the day when he built the greatest roster in the history of college football. I'm one of those dudes who trusts The Don's evaluation and recruiting skills, so I'm not going to nitpick him "missing" a guy here or there, especially with all the money flying around down here trying to buy recruits and when you realize exactly how hard it's been for him recruiting against this ncaa **** for 2 plus years.

Take a big picture view. Realize that UM has won its NCs relying HEAVILY on out-of-state recruits. Realize that many of the best players in the history of the program were from outside S. FL. Realize the ncaa cloud will be gone soon, and the field will be significantly more level at that point. Everyone who knows the truth knows that The Don, if he's anything, is a MONSTER recruiter. We're in good hands.

Excellent post!

 

[killa1storm]

Was talking to some guy affiliated with Central the other day. I told him that he needs to get Cook to Miami. His exact words...

"We tryin. Miami ain't cuttin that check though."

SMH. ****in slimey *** SEC.

Nah. No way. All those fake schools are clean, and UM fans who think they're cheating are just bitter according to the Even Steven fair and balanced guys on here.

can't have it both ways. it was well known lsu bought dwayne bowe and his coach, guess who that high school coach was that got a job with lsu? james coley. fsu was known to break out the duffle bags as well and he was their best recruiter. glass houses and all brah.

You're retarded, and I'm hopeful that you don't make your living as an investigator. So in your warped world, Dwayne Bowe getting paid to go to LSU means that James Coley is now offering recruits money to attend UM? Yikes, the retardation runs deep. Do the world a favor and avoid procreation.

right so a guy goes from being a bagman at lsu and fsu to being righteous on the recruiting trail all of a sudden? and i'm the one that's retarded? the logic isn't hard to follow, but you're a blind apologist so i wouldn't expect you too.

 

[Ibis Wingz]

Was talking to some guy affiliated with Central the other day. I told him that he needs to get Cook to Miami. His exact words...

"We tryin. Miami ain't cuttin that check though."

SMH. ****in slimey *** SEC.

Nah. No way. All those fake schools are clean, and UM fans who think they're cheating are just bitter according to the Even Steven fair and balanced guys on here.

can't have it both ways. it was well known lsu bought dwayne bowe and his coach, guess who that high school coach was that got a job with lsu? james coley. fsu was known to break out the duffle bags as well and he was their best recruiter. glass houses and all brah.

You're retarded, and I'm hopeful that you don't make your living as an investigator. So in your warped world, Dwayne Bowe getting paid to go to LSU means that James Coley is now offering recruits money to attend UM? Yikes, the retardation runs deep. Do the world a favor and avoid procreation.

right so a guy goes from being a bagman at lsu and fsu to being righteous on the recruiting trail all of a sudden? and i'm the one that's retarded? the logic isn't hard to follow, but you're a blind apologist so i wouldn't expect you too.

Were LSU and FSU under the scrutiny UM is currently under with the NCAA when James Coley was at those two schools? It would be galactically stupid for Coley to hand out money at this point in his career with UM.

 

[killa1storm]

Nah. No way. All those fake schools are clean, and UM fans who think they're cheating are just bitter according to the Even Steven fair and balanced guys on here.

can't have it both ways. it was well known lsu bought dwayne bowe and his coach, guess who that high school coach was that got a job with lsu? james coley. fsu was known to break out the duffle bags as well and he was their best recruiter. glass houses and all brah.

You're retarded, and I'm hopeful that you don't make your living as an investigator. So in your warped world, Dwayne Bowe getting paid to go to LSU means that James Coley is now offering recruits money to attend UM? Yikes, the retardation runs deep. Do the world a favor and avoid procreation.

right so a guy goes from being a bagman at lsu and fsu to being righteous on the recruiting trail all of a sudden? and i'm the one that's retarded? the logic isn't hard to follow, but you're a blind apologist so i wouldn't expect you too.

Were LSU and FSU under the scrutiny UM is currently under with the NCAA when James Coley was at those two schools? It would be galactically stupid for Coley to hand out money at this point in his career with UM.

fsu was on probation for their academic scandal while he was there...

 

[The Franchise]

Was talking to some guy affiliated with Central the other day. I told him that he needs to get Cook to Miami. His exact words...

"We tryin. Miami ain't cuttin that check though."

SMH. ****in slimey *** SEC.

Nah. No way. All those fake schools are clean, and UM fans who think they're cheating are just bitter according to the Even Steven fair and balanced guys on here.

can't have it both ways. it was well known lsu bought dwayne bowe and his coach, guess who that high school coach was that got a job with lsu? james coley. fsu was known to break out the duffle bags as well and he was their best recruiter. glass houses and all brah.

You're retarded, and I'm hopeful that you don't make your living as an investigator. So in your warped world, Dwayne Bowe getting paid to go to LSU means that James Coley is now offering recruits money to attend UM? Yikes, the retardation runs deep. Do the world a favor and avoid procreation.

right so a guy goes from being a bagman at lsu and fsu to being righteous on the recruiting trail all of a sudden? and i'm the one that's retarded? the logic isn't hard to follow, but you're a blind apologist so i wouldn't expect you too.

The logic's not hard to follow because there was no logic. You're a ******, and it's sad that the mods let ****** gator maggots like you pollute a UM board with your illiterate trash. You're the idiot who tried to make the jump that because Bowe got bought by lsu that Coley is now offering money to players as a recruiter for UM. You're a ******* moron, so I don't expect you to get how stupid that is.

 

[killa1storm]

no i wasn't dumbass. my point was that you guys claim all these coaches and players are getting paid but we know of one on the um staff who undoubtedly did, but i guess he became squeaky clean in a matter of a few months. cheerleaders like yourself was accusing him of paying off guys at fsu just a few months ago. and it has nothing to do with making the jump that because bowe got bought by lsu coley is now offering money to players at um. he delivered bowe to fsu in exchange for a job. and he pulled similar tactics at fsu. no one has said he is doing it at miami, just pointing out maybe you should be careful in throwing stones so as not to look like an idiot. unfortunatley for you, posts like those condemning him are still on this board to prove what a hyprocritical moron you are.

now go cry to the mods because your retardation is being exposed, funny how i haven't had an issue with anybody on this board but you two retards in this thread.

 

[LA'Cane818]

no i wasn't dumbass. my point was that you guys claim all these coaches and players are getting paid but we know of one on the um staff who undoubtedly did, but i guess he became squeaky clean in a matter of a few months. cheerleaders like yourself was accusing him of paying off guys at fsu just a few months ago. unfortunatley for you, posts like those are still on this board to prove what a hyprocritical moron you are.

now go cry to the mods because your retardation is being exposed, funny how i haven't had an issue with anybody on this board but you two retards in this thread.

You may not have had a problem, but I would be willing to bet 90 percent of people here could care less if you got hit by a bus today and disappeared. The issue with you is, that you come on a rivals board and throw out blanket statements like " you guys think everyone is getting paid off by SEC teams". The fact of the matter is, there were literally only 4 people, going back to Dwayne ******* Bowe that were specifically mentioned, making your argument bull****. You gator ***gots come over here with your backhanded, undercutting sarcastic uninformed comments then can't understand why people have issues with you. I STILL can't imagine having the time to waste by going onto another team's bored and spending the amount of time you losers do over here. I really hope that job search is going well for you, so perhaps then you will spend less time over here.

 

[jandman514]

WR isn't a position of need but when you constantly miss on elite talent in your backyard it's going to go against you in the long run.

Dorsett, Herb Waters, Langham, and top 50 recruit Stacy Coley, with 4 star Malcolm Lewis agree with this statement...

 

[User-4525]

WR isn't a position of need but when you constantly miss on elite talent in your backyard it's going to go against you in the long run.

The key query is "why are we 'constantly' missing on elite talent in our backyard." I'm sure the answer is complex and probably varies to some degree by player. I don't know the answer, but I hope it isn't Al and his staff. By most accounts, Al is one of the top recruiters in the country, so it's hard for me to believe that Al is the problem.

There's also a faulty assumption that we "constantly miss on elite talent" in our backyard.

I never said Al was the problem. Al isnt the only recruiter/evaluator on the staff. The whole staff recruits and evaluates players for their respective positions/recruiting region. Im not going to list the kids we've missed on because everyone will just lose their mind & defend each loss. If you can't see we've missed on kids in our backyard, I'm not sure what to tell you. Has our recruiting been bad? Not at all. We still got elite talent like Artie burns and coley. Add Jamal carter in there too. We've gotten local kids to buy into our program which is on the rise. We also have made great OOS pickups in corn elder, Figueroa, Griffen, AQM, & Olsen just to name a few. Not to mention all this comes with the NCAA down our throats & coaches using that for negative recruiting. I just said we can justify the losses from our backyard but it's never good to miss on hometown players that can contribute heavily to your program within their first two years.

There's a HUGE difference between stating that we've missed on some elite talent in our backyard and what you stated in your prior post. You claimed that we "constantly" miss on elite talent in our backyard, and that's simply not true.

Listen here. We have ALWAYS "missed" on elite talent in our backyard. The great Freckled One, Bytch Davis, missed on plenty of local guys that we were all screaming about back in the day when he built the greatest roster in the history of college football. I'm one of those dudes who trusts The Don's evaluation and recruiting skills, so I'm not going to nitpick him "missing" a guy here or there, especially with all the money flying around down here trying to buy recruits and when you realize exactly how hard it's been for him recruiting against this ncaa **** for 2 plus years.

Take a big picture view. Realize that UM has won its NCs relying HEAVILY on out-of-state recruits. Realize that many of the best players in the history of the program were from outside S. FL. Realize the ncaa cloud will be gone soon, and the field will be significantly more level at that point. Everyone who knows the truth knows that The Don, if he's anything, is a MONSTER recruiter. We're in good hands.

You contradict yourself in your post. You state we don't constantly miss on elite talent, but then go on by saying we always miss on elite talent. Can you state those local guys that everyone was butchering butch for missing on when we won NCs? How do you know every kid we miss on is being bought? Lulz. Miami never heavily relied on talent from their backyard? That statement provides no validity. Looking back at the 2001 championship team, 24 out of 38 future draft picks were from the state of Florida. I never said "The Don" wasnt a good recruiter. He's missed on guys every single year. Its recruiting youre obviously going to miss but your statements contradict yourself. You trust Al & STAFF (He isn't the only one searching for kids & looking at tape) evalations, so do I. However, Al had Matt Thomas, Alex Collins, Stacy Coley, Tim Williams, Rashard Robinson, Jamal Carter, Jordan Shereit, Artie Burns, Bostwik, Kevin Olsen, Lavon Hooks, Jermaine Grace, & Keith Bryant at the top of his board. Did we not miss on 8 of those 13 players? Al & staff can recruit + evaluate. I never stated I didn't trust them, I'm just looking at the situation objectively. We will always miss on targets, but to constantly lose multiple elite guys from our backyard isnt good for the program. No matter what level of depth you have at a certain position. Last year was a bad year for us recruiting in our backyard & this year we are off to a good start. The kids are unheralded so they won't get the acclaim of a Joseph Yearby commit, or a khairi Clark commit to UF. Ill trust the staffs evaluations until it is proven we cant win with their recruits. You never looks at things objectively though so there's no point in going back and forth.

 

[killa1storm]

no i wasn't dumbass. my point was that you guys claim all these coaches and players are getting paid but we know of one on the um staff who undoubtedly did, but i guess he became squeaky clean in a matter of a few months. cheerleaders like yourself was accusing him of paying off guys at fsu just a few months ago. unfortunatley for you, posts like those are still on this board to prove what a hyprocritical moron you are.

now go cry to the mods because your retardation is being exposed, funny how i haven't had an issue with anybody on this board but you two retards in this thread.

You may not have had a problem, but I would be willing to bet 90 percent of people here could care less if you got hit by a bus today and disappeared. The issue with you is, that you come on a rivals board and throw out blanket statements like " you guys think everyone is getting paid off by SEC teams". The fact of the matter is, there were literally only 4 people, going back to Dwayne ******* Bowe that were specifically mentioned, making your argument bull****. You gator ***gots come over here with your backhanded, undercutting sarcastic uninformed comments then can't understand why people have issues with you. I STILL can't imagine having the time to waste by going onto another team's bored and spending the amount of time you losers do over here. I really hope that job search is going well for you, so perhaps then you will spend less time over here.

who gives a ****? i probably have the same feelings about you, its a message board, we're not all on here to make friends and be just the tightest click ever. its entertainment and a way to pass the day. i'm not hitting any of you up asking to hang out and likewise for y'all to me.

and lol every other post you make reference to someone's job, yet you post on here as well, is your **** really that small? lemme guess, recently got a raise and think you're a big wig? as to the rest of your post...pure trash as usual. please go down the recruiting board as well as the football board and find all these underhanded comments. pretty sure i had plenty of negative things to say about my team in the uf-miami discussion thread. whiny *** homers like you just get upset when any opinion defers from your usual rah rah bull****.

pretty sure idiots like you were on here accusing kids like artie burns of being on the take when he committed to bama early as well, same with tracy howard the class before when it appeared he was heading out of state, how did that turn out for you? i called it retarded then as well, but i guess its easier to slander kids on a message board when you need an excuse as to why they may want to go to other schools.

 

[Pecos The Diver]

/thread delivering

 

[IHATETHISPLACE]

/thread delivering

yep is started innocently then it quickly escalated

 

[The Franchise]

The key query is "why are we 'constantly' missing on elite talent in our backyard." I'm sure the answer is complex and probably varies to some degree by player. I don't know the answer, but I hope it isn't Al and his staff. By most accounts, Al is one of the top recruiters in the country, so it's hard for me to believe that Al is the problem.

There's also a faulty assumption that we "constantly miss on elite talent" in our backyard.

I never said Al was the problem. Al isnt the only recruiter/evaluator on the staff. The whole staff recruits and evaluates players for their respective positions/recruiting region. Im not going to list the kids we've missed on because everyone will just lose their mind & defend each loss. If you can't see we've missed on kids in our backyard, I'm not sure what to tell you. Has our recruiting been bad? Not at all. We still got elite talent like Artie burns and coley. Add Jamal carter in there too. We've gotten local kids to buy into our program which is on the rise. We also have made great OOS pickups in corn elder, Figueroa, Griffen, AQM, & Olsen just to name a few. Not to mention all this comes with the NCAA down our throats & coaches using that for negative recruiting. I just said we can justify the losses from our backyard but it's never good to miss on hometown players that can contribute heavily to your program within their first two years.

There's a HUGE difference between stating that we've missed on some elite talent in our backyard and what you stated in your prior post. You claimed that we "constantly" miss on elite talent in our backyard, and that's simply not true.

Listen here. We have ALWAYS "missed" on elite talent in our backyard. The great Freckled One, Bytch Davis, missed on plenty of local guys that we were all screaming about back in the day when he built the greatest roster in the history of college football. I'm one of those dudes who trusts The Don's evaluation and recruiting skills, so I'm not going to nitpick him "missing" a guy here or there, especially with all the money flying around down here trying to buy recruits and when you realize exactly how hard it's been for him recruiting against this ncaa **** for 2 plus years.

Take a big picture view. Realize that UM has won its NCs relying HEAVILY on out-of-state recruits. Realize that many of the best players in the history of the program were from outside S. FL. Realize the ncaa cloud will be gone soon, and the field will be significantly more level at that point. Everyone who knows the truth knows that The Don, if he's anything, is a MONSTER recruiter. We're in good hands.

You contradict yourself in your post. You state we don't constantly miss on elite talent, but then go on by saying we always miss on elite talent. Can you state those local guys that everyone was butchering butch for missing on when we won NCs? How do you know every kid we miss on is being bought? Lulz. Miami never heavily relied on talent from their backyard? That statement provides no validity. Looking back at the 2001 championship team, 24 out of 38 future draft picks were from the state of Florida. I never said "The Don" wasnt a good recruiter. He's missed on guys every single year. Its recruiting youre obviously going to miss but your statements contradict yourself. You trust Al & STAFF (He isn't the only one searching for kids & looking at tape) evalations, so do I. However, Al had Matt Thomas, Alex Collins, Stacy Coley, Tim Williams, Rashard Robinson, Jamal Carter, Jordan Shereit, Artie Burns, Bostwik, Kevin Olsen, Lavon Hooks, Jermaine Grace, & Keith Bryant at the top of his board. Did we not miss on 8 of those 13 players? Al & staff can recruit + evaluate. I never stated I didn't trust them, I'm just looking at the situation objectively. We will always miss on targets, but to constantly lose multiple elite guys from our backyard isnt good for the program. No matter what level of depth you have at a certain position. Last year was a bad year for us recruiting in our backyard & this year we are off to a good start. The kids are unheralded so they won't get the acclaim of a Joseph Yearby commit, or a khairi Clark commit to UF. Ill trust the staffs evaluations until it is proven we cant win with their recruits. You never looks at things objectively though so there's no point in going back and forth.

Apparently, you're another mentally-challenged poster. I only made it through the first couple sentences before getting bored by your sensitive rant, so I'll address those. First, I didn't contradict myself. I said that we have ALWAYS missed on some elite S. FL talent. I didn't say that we always miss on elite talent. By saying that we have always missed on some elite talent in our backyard, I am stating that it has happened forever at UM, not that we miss on every elite player. There's simply not enough room to take them all, and some guys want to leave no matter how good of a recruiter UM's coach is.

Second, it's never a good idea to give condescending LULZ to your cognitive superior. I never said that every player that we don't get is getting paid. Stop making stuff up and trying to use that to show how smart you are because you're not.

Third, you have no clue who was on The Don's "board". You've never seen his "board". And since when were Williams, Sherrit, Bostwick, and Hooks in our "backyard"? And if you're one of the mopes crying about losing Bryant, then I'll talk to you in 4 years when he's a proven bust.

 

[Heals85]

Forget the back and forth we all know recruiting is a dirty *** game and no school in all the nation is clean. What gets me is the fact that these kids from low income families living in the PJ's post pics, like Treadwell, and others before him with stacks on stacks, diamond rings with their ******* name on the box and nothing happens. The NCAA's excuse is the money, rings etc..can come from anywhere WHAT A ******* JOKE!!!