orange&green84
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So according to you who are your top 5 defenses?
#1 Bama
#2 Clemson
#3 Michigan
#4 LSU
#5 Miami
So according to you who are your top 5 defenses?
#1 Bama
#2 Clemson
#3 Michigan
#4 LSU
#5 Miami
Did you look at Clemson's schedule they played Furman and GA southern, Tex A&M and an ACC schedule like ours.
And we played FIU and Savannah State. Again - Every. School. Plays. Cupcakes. Texas A&M has the 21st ranked offensive unit in the country, what are you exactly trying to prove there? Clemson also stifled Duke and FSU on the road where we allowed 20 points at home (7 on a KR which I don't hold against the defense). I rank Clemson there because they have a D-line where just about all of them are going in the 1st round of the NFL draft and their track record speaks for itself.
So you really think our defense is better than Bama, LSU and Michigan's? You can argue that we get more out of our players based on recruitment rankings and where our overall defense gets ranked. But there's no way we're better than any of the above mentioned teams in terms of just defensive unit.
Also, look at the division that Bama and LSU play in. You compare that division to ours, and it's easily better than ours from top-to-bottom.
L-M-A-O. Since when has the SEC been known for offense?
Since when has the Coastal division?
Track record and where players get drafted is not how I judge how good a defense is. Ereck Flowers went 1st round and it has no bearing on how good that o line was
You do realize that the ACC has a tradition of sending a quality QBs to the NFL right? That doesn't happen with trash offenses.
I’m not putting Michigan defense over ours.
Also doesn’t allow you to be caught off guard when your team craps it’s pantsCan't stand homers, I really can't. You say 1 bad thing about our team or prop up another team that is deserving and you're all of a sudden not a Canes fan.
Also doesn’t allow you to be caught off guard when your team craps it’s pants
Track record and where players get drafted is not how I judge how good a defense is. Ereck Flowers went 1st round and it has no bearing on how good that o line was
I agree with all that then you have to include when comparing those teams to us that they have depth at every other position while we have some here and thereI mean, we have a really good defense. It sucks that our offense has been abysmal as it is because we'd probably only have 2 losses on the year if we had a competent offense. Having said that, you can't tell me you look at any of the other teams I mentioned (lets take Michigan out of the equation) and literally think that our defense is on par with Bama, LSU and Clemson. Those defenses consist of several guys that are going to be drafted in the 1st round of the NFL draft. Outside of Willis (whom I think slips to 2nd or 3rd simply because he missed the prior season) and possibly Jackson or Garvin, who else on our defense screams 1st round pick? Maybe Hall down the road?
I agree with all that then you have to include when comparing those teams to us that they have depth at every other position while we have some here and there
Don’t even get me started anyone on this team who isn’t a senior shouldn’t declare, but I’m sure they will.I'm scared to think what our LB depth looks like if Pinckney and Shaq somehow leave early for the draft. We have very little proven depth behind them. I think Huff and Brooks will be elite, but they're only freshmen (when they sign). Solomon might not even come here based on Ivins' update from last week.
Yeah, JJ's the closest one IMO, possibly MJ. But neither are elite. We haven't had an elite corner since 2004 when we had Taylor and Rolle.