Patterson gets dropped

[mossmadness]

Still dont know where IVANS got his info . Spoken with coaches at JR day aka Rumph and he did not say he was dropping patterson

Just stop.

LOL he really needs to let it go

He's like some dude that just had his girl break up with him and he's going through all the love letters she wrote him talking about how he's the one, while telling himself, "She'll come back. She'll come back."

 

[AllbouttheU]

was committed day 1 , a true cane and a playmaker , this is sad if its true

What would be sad is if we kept in contact the whole recruiting cycle, then dropped him in December/January. He's known for a while. Has more than enough time to be recruited.

Not to mention, this isn't the Golden era. We aren't taking fringe players just because they love Miami anymore. We're taking elite kids. He's not.

What makes him not elite ?

Getting dropped.

 

[Tee3000]

was committed day 1 , a true cane and a playmaker , this is sad if its true

Here's the problem, in today's environment.

Kids want to feel special, the like it when programs identify them as a freshman or sophomore. But the reality is, some kids bloom early, and then do not develop further. This happens in the 4-year window of HS, it happens in the 4 or 5 year window of college, and it happens in the NFL. Sometimes a kid stands out from the crowd at one point (early growth spurt, beats out players with inferior coaching, etc.), and then the crowd catches up. Very hard to predict.

I admire the kid's loyalty, but if you follow that trait alone, then we are eventually going to have a certain percentage of the team who, while loyal, are no longer the dominant talents that they once were as HS freshmen or sophomores. Call them Al Bundy. "I once scored 4 TDs in one game." Yeah, that's great, but how about today?

I believe that, at every level, you have to have standards, and if a player hits a developmental wall, you are doing him a favor by allowing him to find his proper level of competition. If you put loyalty first, then you will end up sticking a kid at the end of the bench, never giving him reps, but remaining "loyal" to the promise that he showed years earlier.

Right now, that kid Forrest Lamp is probably going to be a first round selection. A few people mentioned him during recruiting, he had a funny name, he was a "diamond in the rough", etc. But how do we know he would have developed at Miami? Maybe he would not have been a good fit with Kehoe. Maybe the kid needed the reps that a "lower-level program" could give him, and he could develop confidence beating out kids within his skill range instead of going up against 4 star opposition as a freshman and getting discouraged.

I wish Patterson the best, I'd love to see him prove us "wrong", but with only so many spots, we have to make the best decisions we can with the evidence that we have now. And if the staff says "pass", I trust their judgement at this point.

Well said ori.

I think Ivey could be next.

 

[RVACane]

Still dont know where IVANS got his info . Spoken with coaches at JR day aka Rumph and he did not say he was dropping patterson

Just stop.

LOL he really needs to let it go

He's got to have some personal relation to or with the kid.

 

[dukebeeasy305]

We have an elite RB class coming in, an elite CB class coming in, and an elite slot class. Once again, there is no need for him. That sucks for him, but if you want to beat FSU, you should be happy. We are bringing in so much talent in these areas that we actually have no use for a pretty good player like Patterson.

we should have kept him as an insurance policy imo

In a world where scholarships are unlimited, insurance policies would be great.

Counting your chickens before the eggs hatch is also how you're left face down A** up and F*** I thought we learned our lesson with Mcfarland

Then fire the coaches. Our coaching staff has determined that Patterson is not the kind of player that gets us to an elite level. Which is where we want to be at. You don't keep inferior players as "insurance" just in case you prove incapable of keeping the commits you have and can't get any that meet your standard. At that point we don't take Patterson as an insurance policy, we start firing coaches and bring in ones that WILL get us the players that meet our standard.

That would be fine if he was below UM's standard and was not a quality college nickel back, I understand why we dropped him I just don't agree with it looking at some of our recent history.

 

[teddywestside]

was committed day 1 , a true cane and a playmaker , this is sad if its true

Here's the problem, in today's environment.

Kids want to feel special, the like it when programs identify them as a freshman or sophomore. But the reality is, some kids bloom early, and then do not develop further. This happens in the 4-year window of HS, it happens in the 4 or 5 year window of college, and it happens in the NFL. Sometimes a kid stands out from the crowd at one point (early growth spurt, beats out players with inferior coaching, etc.), and then the crowd catches up. Very hard to predict.

I admire the kid's loyalty, but if you follow that trait alone, then we are eventually going to have a certain percentage of the team who, while loyal, are no longer the dominant talents that they once were as HS freshmen or sophomores. Call them Al Bundy. "I once scored 4 TDs in one game." Yeah, that's great, but how about today?

I believe that, at every level, you have to have standards, and if a player hits a developmental wall, you are doing him a favor by allowing him to find his proper level of competition. If you put loyalty first, then you will end up sticking a kid at the end of the bench, never giving him reps, but remaining "loyal" to the promise that he showed years earlier.

Right now, that kid Forrest Lamp is probably going to be a first round selection. A few people mentioned him during recruiting, he had a funny name, he was a "diamond in the rough", etc. But how do we know he would have developed at Miami? Maybe he would not have been a good fit with Kehoe. Maybe the kid needed the reps that a "lower-level program" could give him, and he could develop confidence beating out kids within his skill range instead of going up against 4 star opposition as a freshman and getting discouraged.

I wish Patterson the best, I'd love to see him prove us "wrong", but with only so many spots, we have to make the best decisions we can with the evidence that we have now. And if the staff says "pass", I trust their judgement at this point.

Well said ori.

I think Ivey could be next.

Are you dumb? Ivey is a better CB prospect than Jobe ffs. lol. Only Campbell and Blades are better on our board.

 

[Tee3000]

was committed day 1 , a true cane and a playmaker , this is sad if its true

Here's the problem, in today's environment.

Kids want to feel special, the like it when programs identify them as a freshman or sophomore. But the reality is, some kids bloom early, and then do not develop further. This happens in the 4-year window of HS, it happens in the 4 or 5 year window of college, and it happens in the NFL. Sometimes a kid stands out from the crowd at one point (early growth spurt, beats out players with inferior coaching, etc.), and then the crowd catches up. Very hard to predict.

I admire the kid's loyalty, but if you follow that trait alone, then we are eventually going to have a certain percentage of the team who, while loyal, are no longer the dominant talents that they once were as HS freshmen or sophomores. Call them Al Bundy. "I once scored 4 TDs in one game." Yeah, that's great, but how about today?

I believe that, at every level, you have to have standards, and if a player hits a developmental wall, you are doing him a favor by allowing him to find his proper level of competition. If you put loyalty first, then you will end up sticking a kid at the end of the bench, never giving him reps, but remaining "loyal" to the promise that he showed years earlier.

Right now, that kid Forrest Lamp is probably going to be a first round selection. A few people mentioned him during recruiting, he had a funny name, he was a "diamond in the rough", etc. But how do we know he would have developed at Miami? Maybe he would not have been a good fit with Kehoe. Maybe the kid needed the reps that a "lower-level program" could give him, and he could develop confidence beating out kids within his skill range instead of going up against 4 star opposition as a freshman and getting discouraged.

I wish Patterson the best, I'd love to see him prove us "wrong", but with only so many spots, we have to make the best decisions we can with the evidence that we have now. And if the staff says "pass", I trust their judgement at this point.

Well said ori.

I think Ivey could be next.

Are you dumb? Ivey is a better CB prospect than Jobe ffs. lol. Only Campbell and Blades are better on our board.

Listen Mr. Ivey. Your son has 8 offers, five Power 5 offers, 2 group 5 offers and one from a D2 school.

He better Hope Samuel, Surtain, and Campbell don't want in.

 

[kryptonite]

I'm a dog , I would compete with playing time and would def make plays for us . It is totally going to hurt us ,and when you have a playmaker and a dog and a player that plays with cane swag , you keep me. we have to get rid of all golden recruits , aka henley , mayes , mccray (lb)

We should see . I believe they will still look and evaluate me.

FIFY

 

[Ya Boi]

I liked Patterson a lot....but you're pushing it

 

[SC-Cane]

Still dont know where IVANS got his info . Spoken with coaches at JR day aka Rumph and he did not say he was dropping patterson

Just stop.

LOL he really needs to let it go

He's got to have some personal relation to or with the kid.

It's the only explanation that makes sense because he's ready to go to war with the whole board for him lol

 

[RVACane]

Still dont know where IVANS got his info . Spoken with coaches at JR day aka Rumph and he did not say he was dropping patterson

Just stop.

LOL he really needs to let it go

He's got to have some personal relation to or with the kid.

It's the only explanation that makes sense because he's ready to go to war with the whole board for him lol

Yeah... It's funny and sad at the same time. No ill will towards any kid who wants to be a Cane but just isn't high enough on our recruiting board.

 

[mossmadness]

That would be fine if he was below UM's standard and was not a quality college nickel back, I understand why we dropped him I just don't agree with it looking at some of our recent history.

Except he is below UM's standard. We know that because the coaches said as much. If you're saying the coaches don't know how to properly identify talent, or can't get the talent to sign, then the solution to either one of those is, once again...fire the coaches.

 

[dukebeeasy305]

That would be fine if he was below UM's standard and was not a quality college nickel back, I understand why we dropped him I just don't agree with it looking at some of our recent history.

Except he is below UM's standard. We know that because the coaches said as much. If you're saying the coaches don't know how to properly identify talent, or can't get the talent to sign, then the solution to either one of those is, once again...fire the coaches.

I don't think they believe he's below UM's standard i think they see bigger fish that are giving them positive vibes and IF that's the case that is where I disagree at.

 

[blackvern]

This board is funny.......... we have signed plenty of players that other teams dropped.....and then we proceeded toa ct like we just took them from them....we have also had players leave us...and then act like we dropped them...who cares

 

[Rellyrell]

was committed day 1 , a true cane and a playmaker , this is sad if its true

Here's the problem, in today's environment.

Kids want to feel special, the like it when programs identify them as a freshman or sophomore. But the reality is, some kids bloom early, and then do not develop further. This happens in the 4-year window of HS, it happens in the 4 or 5 year window of college, and it happens in the NFL. Sometimes a kid stands out from the crowd at one point (early growth spurt, beats out players with inferior coaching, etc.), and then the crowd catches up. Very hard to predict.

I admire the kid's loyalty, but if you follow that trait alone, then we are eventually going to have a certain percentage of the team who, while loyal, are no longer the dominant talents that they once were as HS freshmen or sophomores. Call them Al Bundy. "I once scored 4 TDs in one game." Yeah, that's great, but how about today?

I believe that, at every level, you have to have standards, and if a player hits a developmental wall, you are doing him a favor by allowing him to find his proper level of competition. If you put loyalty first, then you will end up sticking a kid at the end of the bench, never giving him reps, but remaining "loyal" to the promise that he showed years earlier.

Right now, that kid Forrest Lamp is probably going to be a first round selection. A few people mentioned him during recruiting, he had a funny name, he was a "diamond in the rough", etc. But how do we know he would have developed at Miami? Maybe he would not have been a good fit with Kehoe. Maybe the kid needed the reps that a "lower-level program" could give him, and he could develop confidence beating out kids within his skill range instead of going up against 4 star opposition as a freshman and getting discouraged.

I wish Patterson the best, I'd love to see him prove us "wrong", but with only so many spots, we have to make the best decisions we can with the evidence that we have now. And if the staff says "pass", I trust their judgement at this point.

Well said ori.

I think Ivey could be next.

Ivey was a want and take all day. Patterson committed to Golden and staff. Richt hasn't been on Patterson since he came on board.

 

[Rellyrell]

This board is funny.......... we have signed plenty of players that other teams dropped.....and then we proceeded toa ct like we just took them from them....we have also had players leave us...and then act like we dropped them...who cares

Change your avatar cuddie. It's over w/.

 

[RVACane]

This board is funny.......... we have signed plenty of players that other teams dropped.....and then we proceeded toa ct like we just took them from them....we have also had players leave us...and then act like we dropped them...who cares

Change your avatar cuddie. It's over w/.

When are you getting an avatar, Rell?

 

[canesjip]

You guys are probably brad kaaya fans.... LOL....ENOUGH SAID ... Its sad you guys dont want a player that has passion, talent, and heart to win and play the CANE way.

 

[Crystal Ball]

You guys are probably brad kaaya fans.... LOL....ENOUGH SAID ... Its sad you guys dont want a player that has passion, talent, and heart to win and play the CANE way.

Congrats.

You're the biggest faqqit on the whole forum.

 

[JHallCanes]

He's Electric , undersized but makes up for it, loves to hit , very physical.. very competitive and like I said he makes plays and is lock down , has great instincts and is a dog and thats something you cant teach.

I dont think he committed to al golden , he committed to Miami and thats not a reason why i think we should keep him. Should of kept him because he would be making plays vs FSU ETC... He would of thrived with this new coaching staff.

It doesn't really hurt us because of the talent we have and will get but we could have definitely utilized him.

But he is the type of player we need. He is a football player , playmaker . str8 DOG like how the canes use to be.

Best of luck wherever you end up, Jalen