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Patterson gets dropped

Ohio_Cane said:
canesjip said:
was committed day 1 , a true cane and a playmaker , this is sad if its true
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What would be sad is if we kept in contact the whole recruiting cycle, then dropped him in December/January. He's known for a while. Has more than enough time to be recruited.

Not to mention, this isn't the Golden era. We aren't taking fringe players just because they love Miami anymore. We're taking elite kids. He's not.
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What makes him not elite ?
 
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canesjip said:
He's Electric , undersized but makes up for it, loves to hit , very physical.. very competitive and like I said he makes plays and is lock down , has great instincts and is a dog and thats something you cant teach.

I dont think he committed to al golden , he committed to Miami and thats not a reason why i think we should keep him. Should of kept him because he would be making plays vs FSU ETC... He would of thrived with this new coaching staff.

It doesn't really hurt us because of the talent we have and will get but we could have definitely utilized him.

But he is the type of player we need. He is a football player , playmaker . str8 DOG like how the canes use to be.
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It's the Nick Roberts thing all over again. Dude prolly ends up at USF too, and there's nothing wrong with that.

Miami has a good amount of nickel options and just took Bandy and Young. They have guys higher on the board and are going for more length.

Patterson is good. Frierson, Ivey and Blades at this point are superior prospects.
 
not his dad , Just want the canes to be great again and beat fsu , we havent had the dogs to do so the past 7 years. ELite or not we've had players that dont care about winning , we have players the smile after loosing to fsu . sick of that ....
 
patterson is better the nick roberts , not to mention patterson can play CB , RB , SLOT AND special teams ...
 
canesjip said:
He's Electric , undersized but makes up for it, loves to hit , very physical.. very competitive and like I said he makes plays and is lock down , has great instincts and is a dog and thats something you cant teach.

I dont think he committed to al golden , he committed to Miami and thats not a reason why i think we should keep him. Should of kept him because he would be making plays vs FSU ETC... He would of thrived with this new coaching staff.

It doesn't really hurt us because of the talent we have and will get but we could have definitely utilized him.

But he is the type of player we need. He is a football player , playmaker . str8 DOG like how the canes use to be.
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Listen, Jalen... You're just not good enough to be a Miami Hurricane. We're on a different level now. We're sorry, man. There's lots of other schools that will take you. Best of luck.
 
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canesjip said:
patterson is better the nick roberts , not to mention patterson can play CB , RB , SLOT AND special teams ...
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We have an elite RB class coming in, an elite CB class coming in, and an elite slot class. Once again, there is no need for him. That sucks for him, but if you want to beat FSU, you should be happy. We are bringing in so much talent in these areas that we actually have no use for a pretty good player like Patterson.
 
canesjip said:
patterson is better the nick roberts , not to mention patterson can play CB , RB , SLOT AND special teams ...
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They got Davis and Lingard after Homer brodie, and in the room with major 2019 guys at that spot. He ain't playing RB here.

They got Dallas, Harley and Thomas who can all play slot this class. He ain't playing slot here.

He is good enough to play some CB or Nickel here but they got guys higher on the board. Look at the class they have as of now. Really hard to complain.
 
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canesjip said:
not his dad , Just want the canes to be great again and beat fsu , we havent had the dogs to do so the past 7 years. ELite or not we've had players that dont care about winning , we have players the smile after loosing to fsu . sick of that ....
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He is a dog , he would compete with playing time and would def make plays for us . I agree that it its not going to hurt us , but when you have a playmaker and a dog and a player that plays with cane swag , you keep him. we have to get rid of all golden recruits , aka henley , mayes , mccray (lb)

We should see . I believe they will still look and evaluate him
 
TheOriginalCane said:
canesjip said:
was committed day 1 , a true cane and a playmaker , this is sad if its true
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Here's the problem, in today's environment.

Kids want to feel special, the like it when programs identify them as a freshman or sophomore. But the reality is, some kids bloom early, and then do not develop further. This happens in the 4-year window of HS, it happens in the 4 or 5 year window of college, and it happens in the NFL. Sometimes a kid stands out from the crowd at one point (early growth spurt, beats out players with inferior coaching, etc.), and then the crowd catches up. Very hard to predict.

I admire the kid's loyalty, but if you follow that trait alone, then we are eventually going to have a certain percentage of the team who, while loyal, are no longer the dominant talents that they once were as HS freshmen or sophomores. Call them Al Bundy. "I once scored 4 TDs in one game." Yeah, that's great, but how about today?

I believe that, at every level, you have to have standards, and if a player hits a developmental wall, you are doing him a favor by allowing him to find his proper level of competition. If you put loyalty first, then you will end up sticking a kid at the end of the bench, never giving him reps, but remaining "loyal" to the promise that he showed years earlier.

Right now, that kid Forrest Lamp is probably going to be a first round selection. A few people mentioned him during recruiting, he had a funny name, he was a "diamond in the rough", etc. But how do we know he would have developed at Miami? Maybe he would not have been a good fit with Kehoe. Maybe the kid needed the reps that a "lower-level program" could give him, and he could develop confidence beating out kids within his skill range instead of going up against 4 star opposition as a freshman and getting discouraged.

I wish Patterson the best, I'd love to see him prove us "wrong", but with only so many spots, we have to make the best decisions we can with the evidence that we have now. And if the staff says "pass", I trust their judgement at this point.
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**** this is well written!!!!
 
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The real question for all the "Patterson fans" (well.. the one "Patterson fan")...Seeing that we have one DB spot left and its between Patterson and TCampbell are you honestly telling me you are choosing Patterson? Lets say TCampbell doesnt come. Are you choosing Patterson over Samuel Jr? If the answer is "Yes" for any of these two questions then you clearly have an agenda and are a relative of his or you coach him because the answer should be "Absolutely Not".

Forget about Blades Jr, he is in this class regardless. No use in even bringing his name into the equation. Pointless.
 
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This kid has made zero noise the last year and a half, no news up until he got dropped...
 
yeah all he does is grind , he doesn't go on social media and post for publicity like other recruits ...
 
canesjip said:
yeah all he does is grind , he doesn't go on social media and post for publicity like other recruits ...
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i'm not saying we can't question staff evaluations. but when it's recruiting websites, posters, AND the staff all saying the kid isn't cut out to be apart of the depth chart against only you, then at that point I would maybe reconsider your evaluations on him
 
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