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and who ever said ivey is better then jobe is crazy . Samuel over ivey all day and Jobe is best db in the country
 
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canesjip said:
and who ever said ivey is better then jobe is crazy . Samuel over ivey all day and Jobe is best db in the country
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As a CB, Jobe is *****. As a safety, he is badass. Ivey is TALLER, FASTER, and SMOOTHER with his hips. Dude is 6'1 and effortless in swarming WRs.

Don't forget that Jobe is 20 too. Ivey just comin back from injury.
 
Jobe is the best CB prospect in the country bar none.

Tyson Campbell is a close second.
 
Tee3000 said:
TheOriginalCane said:
canesjip said:
was committed day 1 , a true cane and a playmaker , this is sad if its true
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Here's the problem, in today's environment.

Kids want to feel special, the like it when programs identify them as a freshman or sophomore. But the reality is, some kids bloom early, and then do not develop further. This happens in the 4-year window of HS, it happens in the 4 or 5 year window of college, and it happens in the NFL. Sometimes a kid stands out from the crowd at one point (early growth spurt, beats out players with inferior coaching, etc.), and then the crowd catches up. Very hard to predict.

I admire the kid's loyalty, but if you follow that trait alone, then we are eventually going to have a certain percentage of the team who, while loyal, are no longer the dominant talents that they once were as HS freshmen or sophomores. Call them Al Bundy. "I once scored 4 TDs in one game." Yeah, that's great, but how about today?

I believe that, at every level, you have to have standards, and if a player hits a developmental wall, you are doing him a favor by allowing him to find his proper level of competition. If you put loyalty first, then you will end up sticking a kid at the end of the bench, never giving him reps, but remaining "loyal" to the promise that he showed years earlier.

Right now, that kid Forrest Lamp is probably going to be a first round selection. A few people mentioned him during recruiting, he had a funny name, he was a "diamond in the rough", etc. But how do we know he would have developed at Miami? Maybe he would not have been a good fit with Kehoe. Maybe the kid needed the reps that a "lower-level program" could give him, and he could develop confidence beating out kids within his skill range instead of going up against 4 star opposition as a freshman and getting discouraged.

I wish Patterson the best, I'd love to see him prove us "wrong", but with only so many spots, we have to make the best decisions we can with the evidence that we have now. And if the staff says "pass", I trust their judgement at this point.
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Well said ori.

I think Ivey could be next.
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On twitter the staff when he committed and on his birthday called him Artie2.0 so I doubt he is next.
 
Ivey faster than Jobe......yeah right.....LMFAO

Jobe is a legit 10.9 100 meter track kid.

DJ Ivey has never run the 100 or 200.

Jobe ran a 4.57 at the recent NIKE Camp.

Ivey has never run the 40 at a camp. I question his speed.

Ivey is a very good prospect; however, Jobe is light years better.


teddywestside said:
canesjip said:
and who ever said ivey is better then jobe is crazy . Samuel over ivey all day and Jobe is best db in the country
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As a CB, Jobe is *****. As a safety, he is badass. Ivey is TALLER, FASTER, and SMOOTHER with his hips. Dude is 6'1 and effortless in swarming WRs.

Don't forget that Jobe is 20 too. Ivey just comin back from injury.
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I'll tell you one thing: If Patterson makes it to the NFL he needs to hire canesjip as his agent.
 
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TOP DBS (not based on size smh for all you fools that just look at size)

1.JOBE
2.CAMPBELL
3.Surtain
4.Hall
5.Samuel
6.Blades
7.Patterson
8.Russel
9.Ivey
10. Freison
 
canesjip said:
TOP DBS (not based on size smh for all you fools that just look at size)

1.JOBE
2.CAMPBELL
3.Surtain
4.Hall
5.Samuel
6.Blades
7.Patterson
8.Russel
9.Ivey
10. Freison
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lol awful.

Campbell (can play either position effortlessly)
Blades (ditto)
Jobe (best safety)
Ivey (elite CB)
Johnson (underrated AF on here)
Frierson (ditto)
Hall (great safety, can't play CB)
Samuel (tiny, can't ever play S)
Russell (lack of CB skills and not ideal size at S brings him down)
Surtain (next Larry Brown)

Patterson is better as a scatback.
 
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canesjip said:
He is a dog , he would compete with playing time and would def make plays for us . I agree that it its not going to hurt us , but when you have a playmaker and a dog and a player that plays with cane swag , you keep him. we have to get rid of all golden recruits , aka henley , mayes , mccray (lb)

We should see . I believe they will still look and evaluate him
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Most other years I could see Patterson being a take for us. But not this yr. There are at least 9 DBs that we are going after that are higher on our board than Patterson, and we already have 6 of them committed, and are really only looking to add one more...unless any other elite guys (Tyreke) want in.

I see Patterson as another Deejay Dallas though. The problem with that is we just took Deejay Dallas last class, and you don't need two of those types of players back to back, especially when you're bringing in the best DB class we've ever had, and one of the best RB/WR classes we've ever had.
 
Tee3000 said:
teddywestside said:
Tee3000 said:
TheOriginalCane said:
canesjip said:
was committed day 1 , a true cane and a playmaker , this is sad if its true
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Here's the problem, in today's environment.

Kids want to feel special, the like it when programs identify them as a freshman or sophomore. But the reality is, some kids bloom early, and then do not develop further. This happens in the 4-year window of HS, it happens in the 4 or 5 year window of college, and it happens in the NFL. Sometimes a kid stands out from the crowd at one point (early growth spurt, beats out players with inferior coaching, etc.), and then the crowd catches up. Very hard to predict.

I admire the kid's loyalty, but if you follow that trait alone, then we are eventually going to have a certain percentage of the team who, while loyal, are no longer the dominant talents that they once were as HS freshmen or sophomores. Call them Al Bundy. "I once scored 4 TDs in one game." Yeah, that's great, but how about today?

I believe that, at every level, you have to have standards, and if a player hits a developmental wall, you are doing him a favor by allowing him to find his proper level of competition. If you put loyalty first, then you will end up sticking a kid at the end of the bench, never giving him reps, but remaining "loyal" to the promise that he showed years earlier.

Right now, that kid Forrest Lamp is probably going to be a first round selection. A few people mentioned him during recruiting, he had a funny name, he was a "diamond in the rough", etc. But how do we know he would have developed at Miami? Maybe he would not have been a good fit with Kehoe. Maybe the kid needed the reps that a "lower-level program" could give him, and he could develop confidence beating out kids within his skill range instead of going up against 4 star opposition as a freshman and getting discouraged.

I wish Patterson the best, I'd love to see him prove us "wrong", but with only so many spots, we have to make the best decisions we can with the evidence that we have now. And if the staff says "pass", I trust their judgement at this point.
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Well said ori.

I think Ivey could be next.
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Are you dumb? Ivey is a better CB prospect than Jobe ffs. lol. Only Campbell and Blades are better on our board.
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Listen Mr. Ivey. Your son has 8 offers, five Power 5 offers, 2 group 5 offers and one from a D2 school.

He better Hope Samuel, Surtain, and Campbell don't want in.
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Surtain is going to FSU. And Samuel isn't better than Ivey. Campbell has a spot here no matter what. And if Tyreke wants in, he also has a spot.

Burns shouldn't be on a football scholarship either. Only other DB I can see walking away is Russell (To UF) and Jobe (To Bama)
 
calinative umstudent said:
Tee3000 said:
teddywestside said:
Tee3000 said:
TheOriginalCane said:
Here's the problem, in today's environment.

Kids want to feel special, the like it when programs identify them as a freshman or sophomore. But the reality is, some kids bloom early, and then do not develop further. This happens in the 4-year window of HS, it happens in the 4 or 5 year window of college, and it happens in the NFL. Sometimes a kid stands out from the crowd at one point (early growth spurt, beats out players with inferior coaching, etc.), and then the crowd catches up. Very hard to predict.

I admire the kid's loyalty, but if you follow that trait alone, then we are eventually going to have a certain percentage of the team who, while loyal, are no longer the dominant talents that they once were as HS freshmen or sophomores. Call them Al Bundy. "I once scored 4 TDs in one game." Yeah, that's great, but how about today?

I believe that, at every level, you have to have standards, and if a player hits a developmental wall, you are doing him a favor by allowing him to find his proper level of competition. If you put loyalty first, then you will end up sticking a kid at the end of the bench, never giving him reps, but remaining "loyal" to the promise that he showed years earlier.

Right now, that kid Forrest Lamp is probably going to be a first round selection. A few people mentioned him during recruiting, he had a funny name, he was a "diamond in the rough", etc. But how do we know he would have developed at Miami? Maybe he would not have been a good fit with Kehoe. Maybe the kid needed the reps that a "lower-level program" could give him, and he could develop confidence beating out kids within his skill range instead of going up against 4 star opposition as a freshman and getting discouraged.

I wish Patterson the best, I'd love to see him prove us "wrong", but with only so many spots, we have to make the best decisions we can with the evidence that we have now. And if the staff says "pass", I trust their judgement at this point.
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Well said ori.

I think Ivey could be next.
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Are you dumb? Ivey is a better CB prospect than Jobe ffs. lol. Only Campbell and Blades are better on our board.
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Listen Mr. Ivey. Your son has 8 offers, five Power 5 offers, 2 group 5 offers and one from a D2 school.

He better Hope Samuel, Surtain, and Campbell don't want in.
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Surtain is going to FSU. And Samuel isn't better than Ivey. Campbell has a spot here no matter what. And if Tyreke wants in, he also has a spot.

Burns shouldn't be on a football scholarship either. Only other DB I can see walking away is Russell (To UF) and Jobe (To Bama)
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Samuel is LIGHT YEARS better than Ivey. It's not even close.

I understand there are always going to be people that don't agree but I will take the word from the coaches of his 40 plus P5 offers.
 
teddywestside said:
canesjip said:
TOP DBS (not based on size smh for all you fools that just look at size)

1.JOBE
2.CAMPBELL
3.Surtain
4.Hall
5.Samuel
6.Blades
7.Patterson
8.Russel
9.Ivey
10. Freison
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lol awful.

Campbell (can play either position effortlessly)
Blades (ditto)
Jobe (best safety)
Ivey (elite CB)
Johnson (underrated AF on here)
Frierson (ditto)
Hall (great safety, can't play CB)
Samuel (tiny, can't ever play S)
Russell (lack of CB skills and not ideal size at S brings him down)
Surtain (next Larry Brown)

Patterson is better as a scatback.
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