No John Lilly

[LuCane]

Exactly. We're just going to need to find some guys who aren't hicks.

There is only one thing that concerns me. Richt likely wants to surround himself with clean, faith and family-oriented guys. Those types are not always a natural fit in Miami.

Personally, I want guys like Ed Orgeron. All he cared about was recruiting, watching film, living on Brickell Key, chasing women and generally going harder than a Russian.

I'd go a step further and say they're rarely fits at all because their personal missions are often split between football and assorted religious, family and community goals. Of course, there are rare exceptions that can manage it all. For Miami, I think there has to be heightened focus on the grind and keeping a certain culture.

It's why I found it really odd, during the search, when people kept saying "Miami isn't unique!" What? Miami's a weird place. The SoFla kids are weird kids who are getting weirder. The only common denominator that ties it all together is the combination of continuous growth for the individual players (who need to be the hungry types that want to "ball out") and ruthless winning by the team (starts with the philosophy of the head guy).

Everyone says Richt is a great man and leader of people. I just hope he's a great coach who can win meaningful games. I'm cautious and will wait to see evidence.

Am I miss reading this or you don't really care for the Richt hire?

He wasn't my first or second choice. I think he can do well. I think, like any of the other candidates, he has some clear question marks. I'm basically just in a wait and see pattern. Excited for the change, but not gonna crown him (or anyone, including my first or second choices) without some evidence.

I think Miami's a unique place and I have no idea if Richt will leverage the few (but big) competitive advantages we have. Maybe he will. I'll be there to support. I didn't mean to convey a negative tone toward Richt. Moreso, just tired as **** of this pattern.

 

[DMoney]

I don't expect another national championship in my lifetime. IMO, programs like Alabama and USC and Notre Dame have birthright foundational logic to lull and then fully restore to dominance, but Miami is not in that category.

We already did it. See 1996-2001.

I don't know what "birthright foundational logic" is, but I know that we have the second-most players in the NFL despite 14 years of decline and incompetence. That's more than Alabama, USC and Notre Dame.

I will take that foundation every day. You can keep Touchdown Jesus.

 

[Tad Footeball]

I know Lilly. He'd coach Pahokee before he'd live in Miami.

gawd **** man, is a bon fire in the back of redneck land that ***** important to some people?

Does John Lilly have this on repeat during his drive into work!
[video=youtube;QD9G9tG7WXQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD9G9tG7WXQ[/video]

Is this a real song?

For real... Rednecks and hicks don't fit in S FL. this is not a big loss.

Never been to Davie or the Chili Cookoff, eh? Or any concert at whatever they're calling that venue in West Palm? If these hilljack coaches need to stay in touch with their "southern roots" then Richt should just tell them to stfu and move somewhere near Round Up and commute into Dade County. South Florida has a place for the dregs of every race, religion, sexual orientation, etc. You just need to know where to look.

 

[Miami82]

Exactly. We're just going to need to find some guys who aren't hicks.

There is only one thing that concerns me. Richt likely wants to surround himself with clean, faith and family-oriented guys. Those types are not always a natural fit in Miami.

Personally, I want guys like Ed Orgeron. All he cared about was recruiting, watching film, living on Brickell Key, chasing women and generally going harder than a Russian.

I'd go a step further and say they're rarely fits at all because their personal missions are often split between football and assorted religious, family and community goals. Of course, there are rare exceptions that can manage it all. For Miami, I think there has to be heightened focus on the grind and keeping a certain culture.

It's why I found it really odd, during the search, when people kept saying "Miami isn't unique!" What? Miami's a weird place. The SoFla kids are weird kids who are getting weirder. The only common denominator that ties it all together is the combination of continuous growth for the individual players (who need to be the hungry types that want to "ball out") and ruthless winning by the team (starts with the philosophy of the head guy).

Everyone says Richt is a great man and leader of people. I just hope he's a great coach who can win meaningful games. I'm cautious and will wait to see evidence.

Am I miss reading this or you don't really care for the Richt hire?

He wasn't my first or second choice. I think he can do well. I think, like any of the other candidates, he has some clear question marks. I'm basically just in a wait and see pattern. Excited for the change, but not gonna crown him (or anyone, including my first or second choices) without some evidence.

I think Miami's a unique place and I have no idea if Richt will leverage the few (but big) competitive advantages we have. Maybe he will. I'll be there to support. I didn't mean to convey a negative tone toward Richt. Moreso, just tired as **** of this pattern.

I think that's the way many of us feel and why wouldn't we after the last 2 hires. On paper he looks good, but he obviously has some things to keep an eye on. If he can do as good at recruiting as he did at UGA and fill his staff with some future HC's I think we will be fine. I'm excited to see what he can do with Brad and that offense. Everyone is waiting on that bg DC hire.

 

[Fawk_U Haters]

This might get negged, but I wouldn't be horribly upset if Beard was retained. However most think he is gone. What about making a run at the Tenn WR coach Zach Azzanni? Offer him the Co-OC role with Brown. He is a good coach who has developed some good WRs and he's a really good recruiter.

What about Tosh Lupui for DL coach? I wonder what he is making at Bama, but he is an AMAZING recruiter.

 

[clg003]

Exactly. We're just going to need to find some guys who aren't hicks.

There is only one thing that concerns me. Richt likely wants to surround himself with clean, faith and family-oriented guys. Those types are not always a natural fit in Miami.

Personally, I want guys like Ed Orgeron. All he cared about was recruiting, watching film, living on Brickell Key, chasing women and generally going harder than a Russian.

I'd go a step further and say they're rarely fits at all because their personal missions are often split between football and assorted religious, family and community goals. Of course, there are rare exceptions who can manage it all. For Miami, I think there has to be heightened focus on the grind and keeping a certain culture.

It's why I found it really odd, during the search, when people kept saying "Miami isn't unique!" What? Miami's a weird place. The SoFla kids are weird kids who are getting weirder. The only common denominator that ties it all together is the combination of continuous growth for the individual players (who need to be the hungry types that want to "ball out") and ruthless winning by the team (starts with the philosophy of the head guy).

Everyone says Richt is a great man and leader of people. I just hope he's a great coach who can win meaningful games. I'm cautious and will wait to see evidence.

I have lived in ATL for the last 16 years and it’s obvious that you have the wrong impression of Richt and the way he runs his program.

And the impression you have is simply based on the fact that he is a faith based man and it’s not based on his history or how he ran the Georgia program.

Richt doesn’t look to surround himself with people who are as devote as him. That’s not how he found god and it’s not how Christians like Mark work in general. Bobby Bowden turned Mark on to God and he didn’t do it by forcing it on him. He did it by example and by keeping an open door to anyone who had questions. That’s the very same approach that Mark takes on and time and time again he has stated that he believes that is his calling. He will let you know his door is open to you if you have any questions and if you do have questions he will stop and walk you thru what he believes and how it worked for him and how it could work for you, but he doesn’t force it on anyone.

Think about it… if you surround yourself by people who are already as devote as you then that cannot happen. You cannot change anyone’s life. Your example counts for nothing and your calling is wasted.

If you go look at the arrest records at Georgia over the last 5 years you will find that they are in the top 5.

Mark was consistently bashed up here for having too many arrests and I have heard him say time and time again that kids get lost and they need to find their way and he doesn’t believe in dropping kids just because they have lost their way. It was pretty obvious that Mark dropped some kids because he was forced to drop them by the school’s administration because of the bad publicity, but Mark will not shy away from kids like this or coaches like this. If anything it’s the opposite. I have noticed that if a kid has religious parents but is a trouble maker himself Mark is on him. Alec Ogletree and his brother come to mind. Bobo was also taken on as the OC when he wasn’t a squeaky clean character himself.

 

[McGahee2TheHouse]

How many co-OC offers can one give?

This is a hard job whether people think so or not, hardest job in the country imo. I used to think it was the easiest but u recruiting against the best down here and the stadium is buns sauce. Alot of pressure to win

Great post. I completely agree. It's not going to be difficult to frequently win a game or two more than we did this season. Beyond that and the math changes completely. The fan base is comfortably ignorant of that reality, and nothing will change in that regard. That's why I think the banners will occur fairly regularly, although a guy like Richt will receive more leeway as an alum and class act. There will be rants on sites like this but the banners will stay tucked away.

We won so huge in a short period of time with so many different coaches. I understood how amazing and unlikely it was because I was in Las Vegas throughout, dealing with money lines and other evaluations of probability. The typical Canes fan who grew up in that era has no clue. Consequently we're supposed to "kill" everybody, now and for the foreseeable, even with the trump-card Orange Bowl long gone. That type screams in internet terms and uses threatening taunting terms. On this site they've found a place where it is welcome and allowed to thrive. Obviously they impress some people, the fellow loud Bar Stoolers, based on the up votes their posts receive. They aren't fooling me or anyone with a real world grasp. The Canes never won huge in this conference. It's full of pesky mid level programs. For example, Georgia Tech may be mocked around here. Meanwhile, Clemson was -7 hosting Georgia Tech this season and Florida State was -6.5 on the road against Georgia Tech. So basically those are 2/5 games, meaning you should win 5 times out of 7. Hardly an avalanche or a "kill" scenario. But Canes fans will never accept that. They refuse to acknowledge that North Carolina State has comparable talent, etc. It doesn't have to be identical. Comparable. That's plenty. Line up enough comparable foes and you are hardly favored to run the table. As I've mentioned several times, with a few different specifics, if a college team is exactly a 10 point favorite in every game the season win over/under among 12 games will be 9.5, not 12. Those games are like 1/5 favoritism in man-to-man terms, not infinity. Plus now you've got the conference title game once we get that far and win the Coastal. Right now and logically forward that game is underdog status against either Florida State or Clemson, although it can certainly switch modestly in our favor.

Our power rating would literally have to bump 25 or more points from where it is now -- and stay there -- to allow the comfort level and arrogance that is so prevalent among the fan base.

Regardless, I'm just glad my timetable played out the way it has, with a moderate Canes team with a handful of excellent players in my youth, but otherwise no expectations of greatness either in the short or long term. Once that uptick amazingly occurred and extended, I was sharp enough to appreciate it not only for the rarity but the fragility. I savored every season and taped as many games as I could. I still have those tapes. Many were available on YouTube until unfortunately the International Olympic Committee and NFL attacked my channel based on copyright complaints and forced YouTube to shut it down a year or so ago. I might reinstate it somehow but right now I lack the energy.

I don't expect another national championship in my lifetime. IMO, programs like Alabama and USC and Notre Dame have birthright foundational logic to lull and then fully restore to dominance, but Miami is not in that category. Obviously I hope I'm wrong. In the meantime I'll follow the frantic stories of the moment and offer occasional observations. Right now I have no idea how so many guys are absolute authority on so many obscure assistant coaches dotting the landscape. Other than the need to be loud, of course. That variable is always at peak.

"birthright foundational logic"

 

[McGahee2TheHouse]

There is only one thing that concerns me. Richt likely wants to surround himself with clean, faith and family-oriented guys. Those types are not always a natural fit in Miami.

Personally, I want guys like Ed Orgeron. All he cared about was recruiting, watching film, living on Brickell Key, chasing women and generally going harder than a Russian.

I'd go a step further and say they're rarely fits at all because their personal missions are often split between football and assorted religious, family and community goals. Of course, there are rare exceptions that can manage it all. For Miami, I think there has to be heightened focus on the grind and keeping a certain culture.

It's why I found it really odd, during the search, when people kept saying "Miami isn't unique!" What? Miami's a weird place. The SoFla kids are weird kids who are getting weirder. The only common denominator that ties it all together is the combination of continuous growth for the individual players (who need to be the hungry types that want to "ball out") and ruthless winning by the team (starts with the philosophy of the head guy).

Everyone says Richt is a great man and leader of people. I just hope he's a great coach who can win meaningful games. I'm cautious and will wait to see evidence.

Am I miss reading this or you don't really care for the Richt hire?

He wasn't my first or second choice. I think he can do well. I think, like any of the other candidates, he has some clear question marks. I'm basically just in a wait and see pattern. Excited for the change, but not gonna crown him (or anyone, including my first or second choices) without some evidence.

I think Miami's a unique place and I have no idea if Richt will leverage the few (but big) competitive advantages we have. Maybe he will. I'll be there to support. I didn't mean to convey a negative tone toward Richt. Moreso, just tired as **** of this pattern.

I think that's the way many of us feel and why wouldn't we after the last 2 hires. On paper he looks good, but he obviously has some things to keep an eye on. If he can do as good at recruiting as he did at UGA and fill his staff with some future HC's I think we will be fine. I'm excited to see what he can do with Brad and that offense. Everyone is waiting on that bg DC hire.

Yep, pretty much how I feel.

I know I disagreed with you and GS in the other thread re: his offensive hires, but I'm really not crowning the guy at all. I think that his defensive hires will be the first time to truly judge him rather than who he hires on the side of the ball that he is supposedly going to be controlling himself.

 

[LuCane]

Exactly. We're just going to need to find some guys who aren't hicks.

There is only one thing that concerns me. Richt likely wants to surround himself with clean, faith and family-oriented guys. Those types are not always a natural fit in Miami.

Personally, I want guys like Ed Orgeron. All he cared about was recruiting, watching film, living on Brickell Key, chasing women and generally going harder than a Russian.

I'd go a step further and say they're rarely fits at all because their personal missions are often split between football and assorted religious, family and community goals. Of course, there are rare exceptions who can manage it all. For Miami, I think there has to be heightened focus on the grind and keeping a certain culture.

It's why I found it really odd, during the search, when people kept saying "Miami isn't unique!" What? Miami's a weird place. The SoFla kids are weird kids who are getting weirder. The only common denominator that ties it all together is the combination of continuous growth for the individual players (who need to be the hungry types that want to "ball out") and ruthless winning by the team (starts with the philosophy of the head guy).

Everyone says Richt is a great man and leader of people. I just hope he's a great coach who can win meaningful games. I'm cautious and will wait to see evidence.

I have lived in ATL for the last 16 years and it’s obvious that you have the wrong impression of Richt and the way he runs his program.

And the impression you have is simply based on the fact that he is a faith based man and it’s not based on his history or how he ran the Georgia program.

Richt doesn’t look to surround himself with people who are as devote as him. That’s not how he found god and it’s not how Christians like Mark work in general. Bobby Bowden turned Mark on to God and he didn’t do it by forcing it on him. He did it by example and by keeping an open door to anyone who had questions. That’s the very same approach that Mark takes on and time and time again he has stated that he believes that is his calling. He will let you know his door is open to you if you have any questions and if you do have questions he will stop and walk you thru what he believes and how it worked for him and how it could work for you, but he doesn’t force it on anyone.

Think about it… if you surround yourself by people who are already as devote as you then that cannot happen. You cannot change anyone’s life. Your example counts for nothing and your calling is wasted.

If you go look at the arrest records at Georgia over the last 5 years you will find that they are in the top 5.

Mark was consistently bashed up here for having too many arrests and I have heard him say time and time again that kids get lost and they need to find their way and he doesn’t believe in dropping kids just because they have lost their way. It was pretty obvious that Mark dropped some kids because he was forced to drop them by the school’s administration because of the bad publicity, but Mark will not shy away from kids like this or coaches like this. If anything it’s the opposite. I have noticed that if a kid has religious parents but is a trouble maker himself Mark is on him. Alec Ogletree and his brother come to mind. Bobo was also taken on as the OC when he wasn’t a squeaky clean character himself.

I appreciate the factual insight and general history you've provided.

However, no, my views are not "simply" based on the fact that he is a faith-based man. I admire his commitment to serve others - which is my "religion." I believe you have to act with a certain level of ruthlessness to succeed here. My comments were a direct response to D$'s comments. The type of person he mentioned (so generally) is not typically hyper-focused on the grind, as there are other goals. That was the angle of my comment. Perhaps Richt's stated desire to teach and help others grow through football will be evident. I don't know him. I'll wait and see.

 

[The Franchise]

How many co-OC offers can one give?

This is a hard job whether people think so or not, hardest job in the country imo. I used to think it was the easiest but u recruiting against the best down here and the stadium is buns sauce. Alot of pressure to win

Great post. I completely agree. It's not going to be difficult to frequently win a game or two more than we did this season. Beyond that and the math changes completely. The fan base is comfortably ignorant of that reality, and nothing will change in that regard. That's why I think the banners will occur fairly regularly, although a guy like Richt will receive more leeway as an alum and class act. There will be rants on sites like this but the banners will stay tucked away.

We won so huge in a short period of time with so many different coaches. I understood how amazing and unlikely it was because I was in Las Vegas throughout, dealing with money lines and other evaluations of probability. The typical Canes fan who grew up in that era has no clue. Consequently we're supposed to "kill" everybody, now and for the foreseeable, even with the trump-card Orange Bowl long gone. That type screams in internet terms and uses threatening taunting terms. On this site they've found a place where it is welcome and allowed to thrive. Obviously they impress some people, the fellow loud Bar Stoolers, based on the up votes their posts receive. They aren't fooling me or anyone with a real world grasp. The Canes never won huge in this conference. It's full of pesky mid level programs. For example, Georgia Tech may be mocked around here. Meanwhile, Clemson was -7 hosting Georgia Tech this season and Florida State was -6.5 on the road against Georgia Tech. So basically those are 2/5 games, meaning you should win 5 times out of 7. Hardly an avalanche or a "kill" scenario. But Canes fans will never accept that. They refuse to acknowledge that North Carolina State has comparable talent, etc. It doesn't have to be identical. Comparable. That's plenty. Line up enough comparable foes and you are hardly favored to run the table. As I've mentioned several times, with a few different specifics, if a college team is exactly a 10 point favorite in every game the season win over/under among 12 games will be 9.5, not 12. Those games are like 1/5 favoritism in man-to-man terms, not infinity. Plus now you've got the conference title game once we get that far and win the Coastal. Right now and logically forward that game is underdog status against either Florida State or Clemson, although it can certainly switch modestly in our favor.

Our power rating would literally have to bump 25 or more points from where it is now -- and stay there -- to allow the comfort level and arrogance that is so prevalent among the fan base.

Regardless, I'm just glad my timetable played out the way it has, with a moderate Canes team with a handful of excellent players in my youth, but otherwise no expectations of greatness either in the short or long term. Once that uptick amazingly occurred and extended, I was sharp enough to appreciate it not only for the rarity but the fragility. I savored every season and taped as many games as I could. I still have those tapes. Many were available on YouTube until unfortunately the International Olympic Committee and NFL attacked my channel based on copyright complaints and forced YouTube to shut it down a year or so ago. I might reinstate it somehow but right now I lack the energy.

I don't expect another national championship in my lifetime. IMO, programs like Alabama and USC and Notre Dame have birthright foundational logic to lull and then fully restore to dominance, but Miami is not in that category. Obviously I hope I'm wrong. In the meantime I'll follow the frantic stories of the moment and offer occasional observations. Right now I have no idea how so many guys are absolute authority on so many obscure assistant coaches dotting the landscape. Other than the need to be loud, of course. That variable is always at peak.

I am stunned that people somehow think this is a "great post". It's like all of Awsi's posts - a long winded diatribe lightly based upon some things he claims he knew from Vegas thirty years ago. Lest people forget Awsi has advocated for every screen pass to fail, believes that the only unique thing about Miami was the OB and he yearns for the return of the triple option.

For instance, he says "IMO, programs like Alabama and USC and Notre Dame have birthright foundational logic to lull and then fully restore to dominance, but Miami is not in that category." I would love for him to define 'birthright foundational logic'. More meaningless jargon from a blowhard.

Yes, Miami is a tough job for many reasons. But it is also one of the easiest for a competent coach: talent in quantity, and the majority of the talent wants to play for Miami. That's the difference. Look at how many NFL players come from SFL.

Don't let someone like Awsi fool you with his hocus pocus nonsense. The U is and always be one coach away from elite by virtue of its location.

Exactly.

 

[Notsince1985]

I know Lilly. He'd coach Pahokee before he'd live in Miami.

gawd **** man, is a bon fire in the back of redneck land that ***** important to some people?

Does John Lilly have this on repeat during his drive into work!
[video=youtube;QD9G9tG7WXQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD9G9tG7WXQ[/video]

Holy ****

 

[MIATL]

I know Lilly. He'd coach Pahokee before he'd live in Miami.

gawd **** man, is a bon fire in the back of redneck land that ***** important to some people?

Does John Lilly have this on repeat during his drive into work!
[video=youtube;QD9G9tG7WXQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD9G9tG7WXQ[/video]

Never heard of them ... But actually enjoyed that.

Thanks for the random share of that video.

 

[prinmemo]

I know Lilly. He'd coach Pahokee before he'd live in Miami.

gawd **** man, is a bon fire in the back of redneck land that ***** important to some people?

Does John Lilly have this on repeat during his drive into work!
[video=youtube;QD9G9tG7WXQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD9G9tG7WXQ[/video]

Is this a real song?

For real... Rednecks and hicks don't fit in S FL. this is not a big loss.

Never been to Davie or the Chili Cookoff, eh? Or any concert at whatever they're calling that venue in West Palm? If these hilljack coaches need to stay in touch with their "southern roots" then Richt should just tell them to stfu and move somewhere near Round Up and commute into Dade County. South Florida has a place for the dregs of every race, religion, sexual orientation, etc. You just need to know where to look.

That is 100% true.

 

[Andrew]

C'mon guys really? Miami is unique due the number of highly talented players that are in the area, but the uniques stops right there. You think guys don't grind in GA or somehow those players aren't born as tough? I am not questioning the speed or toughness of these players but you guys undervalue the grind other players go through in life and in football. Miami needs coaches that can teach football because the high school coaches in the area sure the **** can't. Look at those guys in the league from Miami and you will find countless examples of guys that didn't have a solid season until their 3rd of 4th year in college and didn't stop developing until 3 years in the league.

Give me a coach that can develop these players or give me players like Fred Gibson.

I don't know how Richt will do at Miami and he wasn't one of my first few choices but he is our coach now and doesn't have to complete with 7 other big time programs that border his recruiting territory. I think we will be fine whether Richt picks a complete religious redneck to coach a position or if he goes after some hellion.

I am all in on Ed Oregon though if Richt wants him.

 

[DMoney]

C'mon guys really? Miami is unique due the number of highly talented players that are in the area, but the uniques stops right there.

Miami isn't unique due to the number of highly talented players in the area. Miami is unique due to the number of good players in the area. There is a difference.

Miami players are not uniquely big or fast. Texas has bigger players and better track guys. Miami players just play the game better. A Miami defensive player doesn't just jump on a fumble. A Miami player scoops and scores.

That comes from intense Pop Warner competition beginning at the age of 5. They just have more reps of competitive football. Miami has dominated Pop Warner for years. That's why so many guys excel in the NFL. They are comfortable with cutthroat competition.

Guys like Antonio Brown, Lavonte David and Elvis Dumervil are not combine stars. They are just better at playing the game.

 

[brock]

C'mon guys really? Miami is unique due the number of highly talented players that are in the area, but the uniques stops right there.

Miami isn't unique due to the number of highly talented players in the area. Miami is unique due to the number of good players in the area. There is a difference.

Miami players are not uniquely big or fast. Texas has bigger players and better track guys. Miami players just play the game better. A Miami defensive player doesn't just jump on a fumble. The Miami player scoops and scores.

That comes from intense Pop Warner competition beginning at the age of 5. They just have more reps of competitive football. Miami has dominated Pop Warner for years. That's why so many guys excel in the NFL. They are comfortable with cutthroat competition.

Guys like Antonio Brown, Lavonte David and Elvis Dumervil are not combine stars. They are just better at playing the game.

It's incredibly naive to think other states don't have the same mindset as players from Miami especially from places in ga like metro Atlanta and south ga and Louisiana. VERY similar backgrounds. Little league football is played in ga too now, with a lot of competition.... It's almost equally ridiculous to insinuate a player from anywhere else won't try to scoop and score but a player from Miami will only because he has that "mindset"

 

[DMoney]

It's incredibly naive to think other states don't have the same mindset as players from Miami especially from places in ga like metro Atlanta and south ga and Louisiana. VERY similar backgrounds. Little league football is played in ga too now, with a lot of competition....

I'm trying to find an explanation for this stat:

Hometowns with most NFL players

• Miami 31
• Fort Lauderdale 20
• Atlanta 16
• Houston 14

And the simplest explanation is this excerpt from the Pop Warner web site:

When it comes to Pop Warner Super Bowl football tradition, nobody stakes a more legitimate claim to tops honors than Pop Warner Greater Miami – South Florida. A close look at popwarner.com shows that, over the past fifteen years and across the board from Jr. Pee Wee to Midgets, Great Miami – South Florida has amassed some 15 titles. In a word…"Wow!"

It's not that complicated.

 

[brock]

It's incredibly naive to think other states don't have the same mindset as players from Miami especially from places in ga like metro Atlanta and south ga and Louisiana. VERY similar backgrounds. Little league football is played in ga too now, with a lot of competition....

I'm trying to find an explanation for this stat:

Hometowns with most NFL players

• Miami 31
• Fort Lauderdale 20
• Atlanta 16
• Houston 14

And the simplest explanation is this excerpt from the Pop Warner web site:

When it comes to Pop Warner Super Bowl football tradition, nobody stakes a more legitimate claim to tops honors than Pop Warner Greater Miami – South Florida. A close look at popwarner.com shows that, over the past fifteen years and across the board from Jr. Pee Wee to Midgets, Great Miami – South Florida has amassed some 15 titles. In a word…"Wow!"

It's not that complicated.

Ga has just started to take over the second mantle in terms of being the most talented state after Florida so that's not telling nothing at all if we are being honest. Cali, Texas and a few others were ahead of Georgia in terms of producing talent until RECENTLY... Look at the amount of elite players coming out of that state these past few years. I KNOW Florida football is the #1 state in regards to talent but I also acknowledge there is a south Florida bias that is suffocating at times too...

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

C'mon guys really? Miami is unique due the number of highly talented players that are in the area, but the uniques stops right there.

Miami isn't unique due to the number of highly talented players in the area. Miami is unique due to the number of good players in the area. There is a difference.

Miami players are not uniquely big or fast. Texas has bigger players and better track guys. Miami players just play the game better. A Miami defensive player doesn't just jump on a fumble. A Miami player scoops and scores.

That comes from intense Pop Warner competition beginning at the age of 5. They just have more reps of competitive football. Miami has dominated Pop Warner for years. That's why so many guys excel in the NFL. They are comfortable with cutthroat competition.

Guys like Antonio Brown, Lavonte David and Elvis Dumervil are not combine stars. They are just better at playing the game.

It's starting to get a little deep in here. Yeah, we get it that there are a bunch of college-caliber players in Miami. But let's try to get past this delusion that kids in Miami play at some different level.

Alabama has like three south Florida kids. Oklahoma has two. Michigan State has three. Clemson has three, and has more Orlando/Tampa players than Miami players. That's your final four.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

It's incredibly naive to think other states don't have the same mindset as players from Miami especially from places in ga like metro Atlanta and south ga and Louisiana. VERY similar backgrounds. Little league football is played in ga too now, with a lot of competition....

I'm trying to find an explanation for this stat:

Hometowns with most NFL players

• Miami 31
• Fort Lauderdale 20
• Atlanta 16
• Houston 14

And the simplest explanation is this excerpt from the Pop Warner web site:

When it comes to Pop Warner Super Bowl football tradition, nobody stakes a more legitimate claim to tops honors than Pop Warner Greater Miami – South Florida. A close look at popwarner.com shows that, over the past fifteen years and across the board from Jr. Pee Wee to Midgets, Great Miami – South Florida has amassed some 15 titles. In a word…"Wow!"

It's not that complicated.

That's awesome for the NFL and Pop Warner leagues. Now let's talk about college football, which is the only thing most of us are interested in. The best programs in the nation don't need kids from south Florida in order to win. They are all doing just fine with the kids from their areas.