MEGA New Miami Adidas Ultraboost🔥 - The Shoe and Nike/Adidas Thread.

[3rdCanes]

I generally don't wear Nike, bunions aren't an issue here. Maybe for the fanclub and it's Queen? You can be like everyone else and switch brands.......should improve.

You're the one with the ad in his screenshot. I mean, you could be searching for some pretty ****ed up ****, but personally, I'd just say I had a bunion.

 

[ShadowSpring]

I generally don't wear Nike, bunions aren't an issue here. Maybe for the fanclub and it's Queen? You can be like everyone else and switch brands.......should improve.

You're the one with the ad in his screenshot. I mean, you could be searching for some pretty ****ed up ****, but personally, I'd just say I had a bunion.

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Ha ha. I see what you mean. Good catch.

 

[Garnacho]

Adidas has the edge in soccer usually. I saw another article that Nike is investing a fortune in World Cup marketing and they actually sponsor more teams now.

I guess these are some of the Chinese kicks whooping up on Nike. I believe you mentioned Li Ning to me previously. Some look nice but what happens when a rock or stick gets wedged in that big hole in the bottom? Not nice feelings. Experience has taught me holes and nooks on shoes tend to be a bad idea.......aka On Cloud....

Regarding the $, you can find year old Western brands on sale for less. So cheaper but not exactly crazy discount here.

Anta and Li-Ning are doing very well in China. Anta is definitely number one in the casual running market. The thing they both did very well is they went in very heavy into the smaller cities and towns where no western shoe company ever went. There are hundreds of these towns/cities in China. Anta and Li-Ning literally built thousands of stores here. Nike (or any Western brand) had none. No western brand saw the boom coming this soon from these smaller cities. Anta and Li-Ning did.

Worth noting that Table tennis is the national sport and badminton is the most popular casual adult activity. Both have specific shoes. This used to be dominated by Japanese and Taiwanese companies and Li-Ning went in hard and now sponsor the national teams of both sports.

As far as insight I can add, I can speak of basketball. In the US/Canada most basketball is played indoors. Most basketball shoes are made exclusively for indoor courts where traction is very important because all courts get dusty. In China, basketball blew up but they play outdoors. An indoor basketball shoe’s outsole will get obliterated on an outdoor court. Anta and Li-Ning focused on making outdoor basketball shoes with different levels of quality and price points. I personally think this is why they killed it. Nike (nor Adidas) had many options for quality outdoor basketball shoes.

But my biggest gripe with Nike is this - the most popular shoe in the NBA are still early Kobe’s (4,5,6). Nike just “Protros” (Performance Retro) them. The issue here, imo, is Protro-ing has limitations because you obviously have to keep properties of the silhouette to keep it “retro” and since it's a retro, they aren't going to manufacture them to them levels of sigs like Jas. These Kobes are also extremely popular with collectors, which makes them almost impossible to cop with out paying 2-5x to a reseller which now throws in the risk of getting a fake. One could say Nike has no incentive to upgrade materials on these because they well sell out at any price point in seconds regardless.

Jalen Brunson was recently asked if he would want a signature shoe and he said he would prefer a lifetime supply of Kobes - that says a lot imo. What Anta, Li-Ning, SPO, Volante, 361, and more are doing is taking the Kobes and making them for all price points, all surfaces, and giving them differentiation.

But at the end of the day, it's still a copy of Nike shoes and everyone knows it. If Nike can get a gameplan together they could take the Asia basketball market back over imo.

 

[Hufftwoseven]

From one of my partners:

Wow definitely never thought I would see Germany not with Adidas

 

[Hufftwoseven]

I still think Miami would look best in Jordan. All the Jordan schools are just meh. Miami would look sick in Jordan cleats imo.

Jordan had swag. Michigan, OU and Florida are not schools that you think of having swag. Miami invented it in CFB. It would be a good pairing.

 

[ShadowSpring]

Adidas has the edge in soccer usually. I saw another article that Nike is investing a fortune in World Cup marketing and they actually sponsor more teams now.

I guess these are some of the Chinese kicks whooping up on Nike. I believe you mentioned Li Ning to me previously. Some look nice but what happens when a rock or stick gets wedged in that big hole in the bottom? Not nice feelings. Experience has taught me holes and nooks on shoes tend to be a bad idea.......aka On Cloud....

Regarding the $, you can find year old Western brands on sale for less. So cheaper but not exactly crazy discount here.

Anta and Li-Ning are doing very well in China. Anta is definitely number one in the casual running market. The thing they both did very well is they went in very heavy into the smaller cities and towns where no western shoe company ever went. There are hundreds of these towns/cities in China. Anta and Li-Ning literally built thousands of stores here. Nike (or any Western brand) had none. No western brand saw the boom coming this soon from these smaller cities. Anta and Li-Ning did.

Worth noting that Table tennis is the national sport and badminton is the most popular casual adult activity. Both have specific shoes. This used to be dominated by Japanese and Taiwanese companies and Li-Ning went in hard and now sponsor the national teams of both sports.

As far as insight I can add, I can speak of basketball. In the US/Canada most basketball is played indoors. Most basketball shoes are made exclusively for indoor courts where traction is very important because all courts get dusty. In China, basketball blew up but they play outdoors. An indoor basketball shoe’s outsole will get obliterated on an outdoor court. Anta and Li-Ning focused on making outdoor basketball shoes with different levels of quality and price points. I personally think this is why they killed it. Nike (nor Adidas) had many options for quality outdoor basketball shoes.

But my biggest gripe with Nike is this - the most popular shoe in the NBA are still early Kobe’s (4,5,6). Nike just “Protros” (Performance Retro) them. The issue here, imo, is Protro-ing has limitations because you obviously have to keep properties of the silhouette to keep it “retro” and since it's a retro, they aren't going to manufacture them to them levels of sigs like Jas. These Kobes are also extremely popular with collectors, which makes them almost impossible to cop with out paying 2-5x to a reseller which now throws in the risk of getting a fake. One could say Nike has no incentive to upgrade materials on these because they well sell out at any price point in seconds regardless.

Jalen Brunson was recently asked if he would want a signature shoe and he said he would prefer a lifetime supply of Kobes - that says a lot imo. What Anta, Li-Ning, SPO, Volante, 361, and more are doing is taking the Kobes and making them for all price points, all surfaces, and giving them differentiation.

But at the end of the day, it's still a copy of Nike shoes and everyone knows it. If Nike can get a gameplan together they could take the Asia basketball market back over imo.

Lots of great info. Yeah I've read something about the Chinese shoes having better grip and better durability. Logically though it's going to be tough for Nike to recover the market share here because once it's gone it's gone. My whole life Nike is always nailed the innovation with Nike Air and cushioning and such. They may need to nail it again.

 

[Garnacho]

Lots of great info. Yeah I've read something about the Chinese shoes having better grip and better durability. Logically though it's going to be tough for Nike to recover the market share here because once it's gone it's gone. My whole life Nike is always nailed the innovation with Nike Air and cushioning and such. They may need to nail it again.

Regarding basketball, even if you are right about “once it’s gone, it’s gone”, that would only apply to China. There’s still the rest of Asia that is pretty much untapped.

The Philippines now hold the NBA’s largest engagement numbers. They have recently become the most basketball crazy country in the world. The challenge here is their median income is very modest. The Philippines is more populated than any European country and they are extremely young. They will be a Top 10 populated country very soon and probably the youngest.

Basketball has been booming in Japan since they co-hosted the 2023 World Cup and their pro league is extremely well run with attendance growing very rapidly.

Basketball is on the uptick in both South Korea and Taiwan where baseball has been king. South Korea’s pro league is getting more popular every year.

Indonesia co-hosted the 2023 World Cup with Japan. They are the 4th largest population on Earth. Since 2023 basketball has grown very rapidly with the youth. It is now a top 3 youth sport with badminton and soccer. In Jakarta it will be the most popular sport very soon imo. This is a massive potential market. Li-Ning will have an advantage here do to the familiarity of their badminton gear.

India is the most populated country on the planet and over half of their population is under 30. The NBA had some games in Mumbai about 5 years ago but it didn’t really take off. India has obvious issues and the powers-that-be are very protective of cricket being the main sport. But it’s still a massive potential untapped market.

 

[ShadowSpring]

Regarding basketball, even if you are right about “once it’s gone, it’s gone”, that would only apply to China. There’s still the rest of Asia that is pretty much untapped.

The Philippines now hold the NBA’s largest engagement numbers. They have recently become the most basketball crazy country in the world. The challenge here is their median income is very modest. The Philippines is more populated than any European country and they are extremely young. They will be a Top 10 populated country very soon and probably the youngest.

Basketball has been booming in Japan since they co-hosted the 2023 World Cup and their pro league is extremely well run with attendance growing very rapidly.

Basketball is on the uptick in both South Korea and Taiwan where baseball has been king. South Korea’s pro league is getting more popular every year.

Indonesia co-hosted the 2023 World Cup with Japan. They are the 4th largest population on Earth. Since 2023 basketball has grown very rapidly with the youth. It is now a top 3 youth sport with badminton and soccer. In Jakarta it will be the most popular sport very soon imo. This is a massive potential market. Li-Ning will have an advantage here do to the familiarity of their badminton gear.

India is the most populated country on the planet and over half of their population is under 30. The NBA had some games in Mumbai about 5 years ago but it didn’t really take off. India has obvious issues and the powers-that-be are very protective of cricket being the main sport. But it’s still a massive potential untapped market.

Sounds like we can expect a steady supply of NBA players starting to come from more Asian countries.

 

[Garnacho]

Sounds like we can expect a steady supply of NBA players starting to come from more Asian countries.

We’re getting off topic but I’m okay with that as I have a pretty strong opinion on developing basketball talent. I’m an USA purist - our youth play A LOT of games, and I like that. We also train athleticism. In Europe, they are more technical - they play less than half the games and practice skill twice as much as we do with little attention to athleticism. In Asia, they are even more technical, playing less games, with hardly any focus on athleticism.

I’m not bullish on an upcoming Asian talent insurgency, but they can still enjoy the game recreationally and as fans. That’s where the money is anyways imo

 

[ShadowSpring]

Sounds like we can expect a steady supply of NBA players starting to come from more Asian countries.

We’re getting off topic but I’m okay with that as I have a pretty strong opinion on developing basketball talent. I’m an USA purist - our youth play A LOT of games, and I like that. We also train athleticism. In Europe, they are more technical - they play less than half the games and practice skill twice as much as we do with little attention to athleticism. In Asia, they are even more technical, playing less games, with hardly any focus on athleticism.

I’m not bullish on an upcoming Asian talent insurgency, but they can still enjoy my the game recreationally and as fans. That’s where the money is anyways imo

Yes I saw something that in Europe they practice 6 days a week and play 1 day. In America they play 3 games and practice 2 or 3 times. This explains why Euros are so much more skilled and sound at times.

With Asia booming via basketball I'd bet we see some players come out, but they would still need development. Same kind of problem with USA soccer. It takes time and academies finding and DEVELOPING players like Europe

 

[ShadowSpring]

Regarding hijacking threads.....these people do it daily and we are helping D pay bills

If you want we can go back bashing Nike and the Nike fanclub here at CIS. That's been fun and I've learned a lot about just how surprising bad Nike is actually doing. Very surprised actually.

 

[Garnacho]

Yes I saw something that in Europe they practice 6 days a week and play 1 day. In America they play 3 games and practice 2 or 3 times. This explains why Euros are so much more skilled and sound at times.

With Asia booming via basketball I'd bet we see some players come out, but they would still need development. Same kind of problem with USA soccer. It takes time and academies finding and DEVELOPING players like Europe

Let me add that I’m a purist of the USA way, BUT the games have to be quality and competitive. For example, Miami’s Columbus high school, when the Boozer twins were seniors, they maybe played a few games that were not 30+point blowouts. I think playing a majority of games like this might have contributed to Cayden Boozer’s gaf against UConn in the Elite Eight.

 

[ShadowSpring]

Yes I saw something that in Europe they practice 6 days a week and play 1 day. In America they play 3 games and practice 2 or 3 times. This explains why Euros are so much more skilled and sound at times.

With Asia booming via basketball I'd bet we see some players come out, but they would still need development. Same kind of problem with USA soccer. It takes time and academies finding and DEVELOPING players like Europe

Let me add that I’m a purist of the USA way, BUT the games have to be quality and competitive. For example, Miami’s Columbus high school, when the Boozer twins were seniors, they maybe played a few games that were not 30+point blowouts. I think playing a majority of games like this might have contributed to Cayden Boozer’s gaf against UConn in the Elite Eight.

Hard to argue against the success USA basketball has. But the skill euros have added has been great IMO. I have been enjoying the NBA theast couple years. The game is more fun than I ever remember

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

I still think Miami would look best in Jordan. All the Jordan schools are just meh. Miami would look sick in Jordan cleats imo.

Jordan had swag. Michigan, OU and Florida are not schools that you think of having swag. Miami invented it in CFB. It would be a good pairing.

Agree that Miami would kill it in Jordans but it’s not happening, not in our lifetime anyway, so why torture yourself, get used to that three stripe life

 

[AUcane]

Agree that Miami would kill it in Jordans but it’s not happening, not in our lifetime anyway, so why torture yourself, get used to that three stripe life

FWIW, the Jordan gear is not as good as the regular nike gear. That's the word on the street, anyhow. And with teams like UNC and UCLA wearing jordan brand, gotta figure that brand is not as strong as it once was.

 

[Hufftwoseven]

Regarding hijacking threads.....these people do it daily and we are helping D pay bills

If you want we can go back bashing Nike and the Nike fanclub here at CIS. That's been fun and I've learned a lot about just how surprising bad Nike is actually doing. Very surprised actually.

I’m all for other brands that have been argued here for the average consumer. Running, workout, casual and everything. I think Nike generally has fallen off with sneakers, pricing, tech. But for CFB apparel i still think they hold the edge over others with jersey fit/quality and cleats.

I will always remember the team showing off the adidas swag they got and personally I think it was all bland and super lack luster looking.

 

[Angry Ibis]

Oh and regarding kids preference towards Nike football, Coach D @ Raw Miami did a pod with Pete and is saying kids prefer Adidas. Also said Adidas is way more hands on and aggressive in the 7v7 scene And it would be criminal to go back to Nike. Said Nike is mostly nostalgia via older folks like most of us. Said Nike is workout clothes and kids prefer 3 stripes and it's more fashionable..

Not sure how objective he is as I believe he's sponsored like a lot of the 7v7 teams.

Didn't Pete and Duasso also do a pod once telling us Jerry Jeudy was coming to Miami...

The amount of pro-Adidas propaganda right now is amazing... Pete also laying the Phil Knight / Mario angle after 4 years of Mario and Phil being close and that Nike was the way and Mario will put his foot down.

Just Do It!

 

[Rellyrell]

Another reason y Nike hates Adidas, & no this is not a coincidence.

One of the things I will give Adidas credit for is they started marketing better for their athletes. Nike is just now getting back to that, & we can thank Adidas for pushing them back into that area; HOWEVER, Adidas has a tendency to “borrow” ideas from lesser known/sold Nike sneakers.

The casual fan have no idea of this, & that’s b/c Nike did a really bad job in promoting certain silhouettes, therefore they went under the radar.

Nike

Adidas two yrs later:

Nike:

Adidas this coming year:

Again, Nike sets the template & others copy.

As far as China goes, as I’ve already explicitly explained, @Garnacho added further clarity. However, I will also add Ali Ning stock has dropped; Anta is king of the Greater China area. They r by far Nike’s biggest competitor in this region.

Nike has regained market share in South Korea & Japan, while still having a major stronghold in The Philippines, w/ Adidas trying to push for this market (Unfortunately, Kobe & Steph are the two most popular athletes for them).

But back to my point on China:

From 07/03/2026:

"The company seems to be on the right track in many ways and it didn't really justify a bit of a sell-off today," said Steve Sosnick, chief strategist at Interactive Brokers. "The market's recognizing that there's more good news in the Nike quarter than there is bad news."

CHINA WEAKNESS PERSISTS​

Nike expects sales in China to remain under pressure as it works with retail partners to clear excess inventory, outgoing finance chief Matthew Friend said.
Greater China, which ⁠accounts for roughly 15% of Nike's annual revenue, is its third-largest market after North America and Europe, the Middle East and Africa.
Still, some analysts said there were early signs that Nike's efforts to reset the business in the region were gaining traction, as evidenced by a smaller decline in ⁠fourth-quarter sales compared with the company's earlier forecast of roughly a 20% drop.
"Our concerns about declining sales in China and sportswear are offset by inflecting margins," Bank of America analysts said.

 

[RVACane]

Despite Nike spending way more on marketing, Adidas showing once again it's the more preferred brand right now. Adidas selling more World Cup gear

Sorry CIS Nike fanclub. Data and facts just not on your side.

https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/adidas-edging-nike-world-cup-sales-boost-data-show-2026-06-24/

Are you arguing Adidas is better than Nike for UM football because they’re more popular on the world soccer circuit???

 

[RVACane]

You edited this post 4 times. I think it's pretty ******* clear who the emotionally invested party is.