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It's Official: California to let college athletes make money, defying NCAA

r0fl_57omp7 said:
Generalizing an entire population is literally worse than actually being a racist. Just listen to yourselves.
It's crazy how everyone is turning this into hurr durr Bama won't be able to compete now. Hurr dur Bama is racist and the poorest state. No mentions of LSU, Georgia, etc.

As far as the actual topic of this thread: It's like nobody on here had their mom explain to them what "Be careful what you wish for" meant when they were kids...smh
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When we haven’t been able to pay we sucked so…but now guys can come here and market themselves with Miami so how exactly does that statement apply.
 
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CaneLife said:
It’s all gonna come down to who gets it in effect first. Period. Everyone else will be behind tremendously if even two years late. Get it passed in 2020 and start stacking chips ASAP. Then we are stacked and ahead of it instead of playing catch up.
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Now more than ever we need to crack the top 10.
I have a friend that works for a financial firm. He knows agents. Agents have no loyalty. Agents will push their kid to the school with the highest exposure first. They know it’s about exposure and branding now a days.
If Miami is on tv a lot we should have nothing to worry about. If we continue to drop games regularly to inferior opponents it will be more dudes leaving out of here.
 
Canesince02 said:
When we haven’t been able to pay we sucked so…but now guys can come here and market themselves with Miami so how exactly does that statement apply.
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Because everyone keeps thinking this is going to benefit Miami. Not really, it will benefit the biggest college football markets. Not the biggest "media markets" but the biggest college football markets. I've already posted links and articles showing those.
 
TimeB0mb said:
Lol you must have a lot of time on your hands to invent arguments that don't exist. Women have plenty of unique advertising opportunities unless you think a Male player will steal their tampon commercials.
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Half the country is still complaining the USWNT was getting underpaid compared to the men. The numbers showed they actually make a higher percentage of the profit.

Facts don’t stop activists
 
CaneLife said:
It’s all gonna come down to who gets it in effect first. Period. Everyone else will be behind tremendously if even two years late. Get it passed in 2020 and start stacking chips ASAP. Then we are stacked and ahead of it instead of playing catch up.
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I think the SEC will kick UF out if UF follows Florida law. ACC can benefit if they get out in front. Miami could be a big winner but the ACC will probably try to squash it.

The wildcard would be a school like UCF. Orlando is a massive market and UCF is never going to be allowed into the playoffs anyways as a non P5. Nothing to lose. AAC is also in huge markets. NY, Houston, Orlando. Could flip college football on its head. Now might be a good time for Miami to return to the former Big East and sign those streaming deals with Netflix and Amazon (yes, I know grant of rights to acc- would have to find way to break deal)
 
NC_Canes_11 said:
Half the country is still complaining the USWNT was getting underpaid compared to the men. The numbers showed they actually make a higher percentage of the profit.

Facts don’t stop activists
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Weren't the men not getting paid anything but a stipend because they can't even qualify? Weren't the women trying to get paid what the men would get paid if they won the World Cup, which has 0.0% chance of happening?
 
Has anyone actually read the entire bill? I have only read articles and it seems like it bars state and private colleges in Cali from kicking a player off a team who gets one of the described benefits.

Can the NCAA just counter this and say okay, you got "x" payment, we are now going to suspend you while we conduct a very thorough investigation?

The only close analogy I can think of is say weed in the NFL. A player in a state where it is legalized can use it and not get in trouble, but the NFL can still suspend him for failing a drug test.
 
Cookie917 said:
Has anyone actually read the entire bill? I have only read articles and it seems like it bars state and private colleges in Cali from kicking a player off a team who gets one of the described benefits.

Can the NCAA just counter this and say okay, you got "x" payment, we are now going to suspend you while we conduct a very thorough investigation?

The only close analogy I can think of is say weed in the NFL. A player in a state where it is legalized can use it and not get in trouble, but the NFL can still suspend him for failing a drug test.
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They prohibited the NCAA from punishing athletes from participating. I think it's going to have to be settled in the Supreme Court.
 
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Some thoughts:

1. What revenue streams are players going to exploit that does not involve the intellectual property of the school? Few players have the star power to make money without attaching themselves to the school. I'm not an intellectual property attorney but would have to believe the schools maintain the rights to their likeness, i.e. name and logos.

2. The bag schools will fight this since it could bring to light what has been assumed all along. Bags of money changing hands. All without record keeping, so to speak. The IRS and state tax boards start taking a keen interest when dollars are involved. They want their taste.

3. Isn’t this all about the players receiving a better share of the revenue the schools earn?
 
Not sure if it was mentioned or not. I didn't go through every page. But all scholarship athletes get extra money besides tuition, meals, books, housing.
 
Canesince02 said:
I disagree. If the top 500 football and the top 100 basketball went to minor leagues. The revenues would take a much bigger hit than you think. If the best athletes competed in a minor league and they were BROADCASTED AND MARKETED people would watch that just like they did the majors. If you had a sport with a bunch of Robert Knowles’ and the team that won just had better Robert Knowles’ where is the enjoyment in that?
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Nobody watches any minor leagues that currently exist today, so there’s absolutely no reason to believe people would watch a new minor league for football. You’re purely guessing whereas my belief is supported by actual history.
 
r0fl_57omp7 said:
Because everyone keeps thinking this is going to benefit Miami. Not really, it will benefit the biggest college football markets. Not the biggest "media markets" but the biggest college football markets. I've already posted links and articles showing those.
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There are many more factors that come into play with this law that your sources don’t depict. And you should very well know that media will a much more profound affect on a players profitability than “college football markets”
 
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NC_Canes_11 said:
This will have a much bigger impact on basketball than football. Can you imagine the corruption in the shoe game if they’re allowed to sign deals when they get to college? Nike is gonna be paying kids all throughout high school to funnel them to their schools and promise them millions once they sign
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It's the American way
 
Canes1968 said:
Nobody watches any minor leagues that currently exist today, so there’s absolutely no reason to believe people would watch a new minor league for football. You’re purely guessing whereas my belief is supported by actual history.
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Standby while I look up the impact Jordan had on minor league baseball
 
Cookie917 said:
Has anyone actually read the entire bill? I have only read articles and it seems like it bars state and private colleges in Cali from kicking a player off a team who gets one of the described benefits.

Can the NCAA just counter this and say okay, you got "x" payment, we are now going to suspend you while we conduct a very thorough investigation?

The only close analogy I can think of is say weed in the NFL. A player in a state where it is legalized can use it and not get in trouble, but the NFL can still suspend him for failing a drug test.
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It's really short:

Bill Text - SB-206 Collegiate athletics: student athlete compensation and representation.

leginfo.legislature.ca.gov

Weed is not a great analogy because their is no law that protects the athlete. This protects the athlete.

This thing has a long way to go.
 
This will only further enrich a handful of elite programs at the expense of everyone.

Things like this never have the intended outcomes.

As an example, if you're an elite player, you'll got to Alabama and wait your turn because you'll be directly compensated to do so. There won't be any incentive to showcase your talents most anywhere else, even if it means more playing time because your "likeness" isn't worth anything nationally unless it's attached to a big brand.
 
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