It's Official: California to let college athletes make money, defying NCAA

[dirtyred786]

I don't agree with this.In fact I think it does just the opposite.It lets schools like Bama and Uga among others not have to hide paying players as they sort of have to now.

what's to stop a booster from say buying a hundred or even a thousand jerseys or having a kid make a commercial for a car dealership where he gets a new car.

the schools like Bama that have the bigtime money are going to find ways to circumvent the system so it works in their favor no matter what the rule is.

This law just allows them to do it above board now..jmho

So in this case, the only thing that changes is that the player is no longer penalized. That's exactly what the law is designed for. All these payments from boosters happen anyway, and the only one who gets in trouble is the player. No booster has ever been punished for their actions, and now the players won't get punished.

 

[ToneyDaGawd]

There are many more factors that come into play with this law that your sources don’t depict. And you should very well know that media will a much more profound affect on a players profitability than “college football markets”

Ah yes, I can just see it now. Robert Knowles (college football player for an unnamed ACC school) just signed a deal with Dancing with the Stars. You're right, people are going to eat it up.

 

[Garnacho]

So in this case, the only thing that changes is that the player is no longer penalized. That's exactly what the law is designed for. All these payments from boosters happen anyway, and the only one who gets in trouble is the player. No booster has ever been punished for their actions, and now the players won't get punished.

Does the player really get penalized? I feel like the school gets penalized years after the fact.

Anyways, old fashioned booster bags would not be protected here. The bulk of those payments go through parents or family members, not the athlete. That's how you get it to be a donation to a needy family where no paper trail is legally required.

This requires a licensed agent to represent the athlete. That will result in a paper trail.

 

[HurricaneU]

Great day for America and individual freedom.

 

[Canesince02]

Nobody watches any minor leagues that currently exist today, so there’s absolutely no reason to believe people would watch a new minor league for football. You’re purely guessing whereas my belief is supported by actual history.

Standby while I look up the impact Jordan had on minor league baseball

Long story short people came to see a top athlete play minor league baseball. Typically the top athletes play in the major professional leagues but if you took them out you would see a decline in that sports popularity. What exactly is your argument?

 

[Canesince02]

Ah yes, I can just see it now. Robert Knowles (college football player for an unnamed ACC school) just signed a deal with Dancing with the Stars. You're right, people are going to eat it up.

Dancing with the stars?? Stop swimming in the shallow end they can do much more than that

 

[canesproponent]

Generalizing an entire population is literally worse than actually being a racist. Just listen to yourselves.
It's crazy how everyone is turning this into hurr durr Bama won't be able to compete now. Hurr dur Bama is racist and the poorest state. No mentions of LSU, Georgia, etc.

As far as the actual topic of this thread: It's like nobody on here had their mom explain to them what "Be careful what you wish for" meant when they were kids...smh

Well.............. Georgia is also a racist state. I lived there for four years.

Louisiana has a ton of diversity (Creoles, Cajuns, etc...) , but most white LSU Tiger fans are also racist.

 

[Badbart43]

You just can't cut so-called nonRevenue sports, especially women's teams, because of Title9. I think many of you folks need to do some studying on college athletics, it's Federal obligations and the law of economics. This not good at all for UM, but keep dreaming that it will be.

The average football player that dreams of playing in the NFL or NBA could care less about Title 9. That is a fact. All they care about is what is init for them. What this will potentially lead to down the road is an issue like we are seeing in the NFL where the players are all holding out on contracts they already signed in hopes of getting more money. Which is childish. If I were the owners, I would sue the players for being in breach of contract.

 

[Badbart43]

California has always been a first mover to reform in just about every industry

The bluest state, and also the brokest cause they have no idea how to pay for all their programs.

 

[NC_Canes_11]

Not in a state that just passed a law making it illegal to punish kids at any level for profiting from their likeness.

It prevents “postsecondary institutions,” from banning kids who have gotten paid. High school is not a post secondary institution

 

[MedleyCane]

The average football player that dreams of playing in the NFL or NBA could care less about Title 9. That is a fact. All they care about is what is init for them. What this will potentially lead to down the road is an issue like we are seeing in the NFL where the players are all holding out on contracts they already signed in hopes of getting more money. Which is childish. If I were the owners, I would sue the players for being in breach of contract.

What the average football player thinks about Title 9 is not the point, which flew over your head. Please read it again.

 

[CaneInHeelCountry]

Ah yes, I can just see it now. Robert Knowles (college football player for an unnamed ACC school) just signed a deal with Dancing with the Stars. You're right, people are going to eat it up.

Dude, you're being short-sighted if you can't see that this will have repercussions beyond the top-tier football and basketball players.

There are tons of lower-tier players, and tons of players in other sports, who have cult followings that they could monetize.

There's a women's gymnast for UCLA named Katelyn Ohasi who became an internet sensation a few months ago because she scored perfect 10s in a couple of routines. I must've seen a dozen little articles and vids of her in buzzfeed, barstoolsports, CBS, CNN, yahoo, etc. And vids of her performance were all over my FB feed.

This law would allow her to monetize that fame in a way that she can't now. It might not be worth hundreds of thousands of $$, but she could def go out and make some bank by signing autographs for fans at meets, or by promoting an LA-area gymnastics school, or by making her own training vids, or signing a deal to endorse whatever.

 

[NC_Canes_11]

Weren't the men not getting paid anything but a stipend because they can't even qualify? Weren't the women trying to get paid what the men would get paid if they won the World Cup, which has 0.0% chance of happening?

IIRC the women signed salary like deals. They get paid a set salary for playing and then a bonus for winning.
The men get no guaranteed money so they get paid to come play and miss club or MLS games and also bonuses for winning.

Somebody correct me if I’m wrong on that.

Also the percentage men get is smaller but they are pulling from a much larger pool of money. Like billions compared to 10s of millions. It’s basic math and economics, but like I said the activists don’t care about facts

 

[ToneyDaGawd]

Dude, you're being short-sighted if you can't see that this will have repercussions beyond the top-tier football and basketball players.

There are tons of lower-tier players, and tons of players in other sports, who have cult followings that they could monetize.

There's a women's gymnast for UCLA named Katelyn Ohasi who became an internet sensation a few months ago because she scored perfect 10s in a couple of routines. I must've seen a dozen little articles and vids of her in buzzfeed, barstoolsports, CBS, CNN, yahoo, etc. And vids of her performance were all over my FB feed.

This law would allow her to monetize that fame in a way that she can't now. It might not be worth hundreds of thousands of $$, but she could def go out and make some bank by signing autographs for fans at meets, or by promoting a Seattle-area gymnastics school, or by making her own training vids, or signing a deal to endorse whatever.

Nah, I mean I get all that and the last post was just satire.
So basically, because you guys and your participation trophy generation want random gymnasts to be able to get paid before graduating college, you're all for killing college football.

 

[NE Canes]

This is going to be a disaster.

None of this is going to go like you think.

 

[CaneInHeelCountry]

Nah, I mean I get all that and the last post was just satire.
So basically, because you guys and your participation trophy generation want random gymnasts to be able to get paid before graduating college, you're all for killing college football.

Yeah, how dumb of me to want everyone to be able to get paid for their own fame.

They're adults. There's no reason the NCAA should be able to demand that they not make any money off their own skills and fame, or demand that they can't have side jobs. Eff that. If it brings about changes in CFB, all the better. Time to treat these kids like the money-earners they are.

 

[Badbart43]

THis all started b/c one guy was upset that a phantom player on NCAA 14 had his measurables and his approximate abilities and said that EA was profiting off his likeness...they settled out of court and each athlete got pennies. Turns out the true "victims" got squat, millions of AMericans lost their fav game to play, and the only ones that made any $$ were the lawyers.

 

[Badbart43]

What the average football player thinks about Title 9 is not the point, which flew over your head. Please read it again.

You act like I was disagreeing with you..DUH!!

 

[ToneyDaGawd]

Yeah, how dumb of me to want everyone to be able to get paid for their own fame.

They're adults. There's no reason the NCAA should be able to demand that they not make any money off their own skills and fame, or demand that they can't have side jobs. Eff that. If it brings about changes in CFB, all the better. Time to treat these kids like the money-earners they are.

Okay. While we're at it we should probably get rid of sports scholarships for players making money. I'd be fine with it if you did that. Make them buy their own mandatory meal plan (like mine was). Make them pay for their own student loans with all the money they're making. ****, what you guys really need to be complaining about is how much the NCAA executives are getting paid and demand that money be donated back into sports programs or something.

 

[NC_Canes_11]

Okay. While we're at it we should probably get rid of sports scholarships for players making money. I'd be fine with it if you did that. Make them buy their own mandatory meal plan (like mine was). Make them pay for their own student loans with all the money they're making. ****, what you guys really need to be complaining about is how much the NCAA executives are getting paid and demand that money be donated back into sports programs or something.

This is my problem with the situation. The NCAA isn’t gonna pay a penny. If you read South Carolina’s bill on this, it plans to give athletes like 15% of ticket sales or some kind of revenue the school makes. You know who’s gonna end up paying for that? Tax payers and fans who buy the tickets. Same with merchandise. If you think they NCAA and these schools aren’t gonna pass on the price of this to consumers, you are naive