If you want Butch, why wouldn't you want Larry Fedora?

[pyhooya]

Larry fedora lost to Golden twice, including last year in a 6-7 campaign.
Currently UNC SOS is at 71, and the only loss is to 3-7 South carolina

When Butch went to NC, they were irrelevant, and he supposedly raised around 100 million bucks, and had some some serious talent until the academic scandal broke.

Fedora has done a nice job, and UNC should be happy with the 10 win, coastal championship ceiling, but he is no Butch Davis. He cant sniff what butch did in 2000

It's 2015. What has Butch done since 2000?

How many current ranked teams has Fedora beaten this year or will beat this year? ZERO.. How many ranked teams did Fedora beat last year.....ZERO. How bout the year before.....ZERO....how bout the year before that......

So Fedora has beaten the same number of ranked teams as Butch the last 3-4 years.....makes sense to hire him...smdh

 

[corny cane]

Larry fedora lost to Golden twice, including last year in a 6-7 campaign.
Currently UNC SOS is at 71, and the only loss is to 3-7 South carolina

When Butch went to NC, they were irrelevant, and he supposedly raised around 100 million bucks, and had some some serious talent until the academic scandal broke.

Fedora has done a nice job, and UNC should be happy with the 10 win, coastal championship ceiling, but he is no Butch Davis. He cant sniff what butch did in 2000

It's 2015. What has Butch done since 2000?

Nobody is sniffing what butch did in 2000 and that's including butch. That's once in a lifetime type **** and likely won't happen again.

If he were the coach miami would have more talent. He might be able to build a team good enough to compete for a nc but not at the 2000 level.

My point is if Butch were here, we would be better then SC, and a lot better than Fedora's UNC and his once in a lifetime offensive playmaker QB, because we would be loaded with South FL talent. It is ridiculous that we have people pining for Fcking Fedora when Butch is asking for the job.

 

[The Franchise]

Larry fedora lost to Golden twice, including last year in a 6-7 campaign.
Currently UNC SOS is at 71, and the only loss is to 3-7 South carolina

When Butch went to NC, they were irrelevant, and he supposedly raised around 100 million bucks, and had some some serious talent until the academic scandal broke.

Fedora has done a nice job, and UNC should be happy with the 10 win, coastal championship ceiling, but he is no Butch Davis. He cant sniff what butch did in 2000

It's 2015. What has Butch done since 2000?

Nobody is sniffing what butch did in 2000 and that's including butch. That's once in a lifetime type **** and likely won't happen again.

If he were the coach miami would have more talent. He might be able to build a team good enough to compete for a nc but not at the 2000 level.

No one's sniffing a Sugar Bowl win at UM?

 

[deleted3746]

Larry fedora lost to Golden twice, including last year in a 6-7 campaign.
Currently UNC SOS is at 71, and the only loss is to 3-7 South carolina

When Butch went to NC, they were irrelevant, and he supposedly raised around 100 million bucks, and had some some serious talent until the academic scandal broke.

Fedora has done a nice job, and UNC should be happy with the 10 win, coastal championship ceiling, but he is no Butch Davis. He cant sniff what butch did in 2000

It's 2015. What has Butch done since 2000?

How many current ranked teams has Fedora beaten this year or will beat this year? ZERO.. How many ranked teams did Fedora beat last year.....ZERO. How bout the year before.....ZERO....how bout the year before that......

So Fedora has beaten the same number of ranked teams as Butch the last 3-4 years.....makes sense to hire him...smdh

So you're saying Butch hasn't done anything since the 2000 season. Got it.

 

[pyhooya]

Still waiting to find out what Butch has done in college football since the Sugar Bowl vs UF.

Still waiting for Fedora to beat a ranked team.......

 

[canefan]

LOL at Franchise advocating for a corch who lost to a 6-7 corched Al Golden team 47-20 in year 3 of his taking over the program. That game was over by the 1st quarter.

 

[The Franchise]

Larry fedora lost to Golden twice, including last year in a 6-7 campaign.
Currently UNC SOS is at 71, and the only loss is to 3-7 South carolina

When Butch went to NC, they were irrelevant, and he supposedly raised around 100 million bucks, and had some some serious talent until the academic scandal broke.

Fedora has done a nice job, and UNC should be happy with the 10 win, coastal championship ceiling, but he is no Butch Davis. He cant sniff what butch did in 2000

It's 2015. What has Butch done since 2000?

How many current ranked teams has Fedora beaten this year or will beat this year? ZERO.. How many ranked teams did Fedora beat last year.....ZERO. How bout the year before.....ZERO....how bout the year before that......

So Fedora has beaten the same number of ranked teams as Butch the last 3-4 years.....makes sense to hire him...smdh

He's 9-1. How many great teams has Ohio State beaten this year? Does that mean that Ohio State isn't any good?

 

[Rellyrell]

Larry fedora lost to Golden twice, including last year in a 6-7 campaign.
Currently UNC SOS is at 71, and the only loss is to 3-7 South carolina

When Butch went to NC, they were irrelevant, and he supposedly raised around 100 million bucks, and had some some serious talent until the academic scandal broke.

Fedora has done a nice job, and UNC should be happy with the 10 win, coastal championship ceiling, but he is no Butch Davis. He cant sniff what butch did in 2000

It's 2015. What has Butch done since 2000?

It's 2015, what has fedora done? He was 6-7 and lost badly to 6-7 Golden coached Miami. Imagine if he didn't land Williams, who is pretty much his whole offense

About to win the coastal and go to the ACC CG.

What was Butch's greatest accomplishment at UNC?

check it [MENTION=3746]Thread Killa[/MENTION]....

You give Butch two FCS teams and a schedule that features teams with a combined winning pct. of 47% thus far, bet money that he wins the ACC Coastal. ****, you give Golden that same schedule, and bet money he wins the ACC Coastal.
Butch had 4 top 25 teams on his schedule w/ 13 players lost in year 4.You're ready to crown a corch who's gone 8-4, 7-6, and 6-7 over the past 3 years b/c he's now 9-1 with one of the softest schedules in FBS? So glad you're not our school's AD, blood.

 

[pyhooya]

Larry fedora lost to Golden twice, including last year in a 6-7 campaign.
Currently UNC SOS is at 71, and the only loss is to 3-7 South carolina

When Butch went to NC, they were irrelevant, and he supposedly raised around 100 million bucks, and had some some serious talent until the academic scandal broke.

Fedora has done a nice job, and UNC should be happy with the 10 win, coastal championship ceiling, but he is no Butch Davis. He cant sniff what butch did in 2000

It's 2015. What has Butch done since 2000?

How many current ranked teams has Fedora beaten this year or will beat this year? ZERO.. How many ranked teams did Fedora beat last year.....ZERO. How bout the year before.....ZERO....how bout the year before that......

So Fedora has beaten the same number of ranked teams as Butch the last 3-4 years.....makes sense to hire him...smdh

So you're saying Butch hasn't done anything since the 2000 season. Got it.

Probably beaten more ranked teams than Fedora.....

 

[252cane]

Larry fedora lost to Golden twice, including last year in a 6-7 campaign.
Currently UNC SOS is at 71, and the only loss is to 3-7 South carolina

When Butch went to NC, they were irrelevant, and he supposedly raised around 100 million bucks, and had some some serious talent until the academic scandal broke.

Fedora has done a nice job, and UNC should be happy with the 10 win, coastal championship ceiling, but he is no Butch Davis. He cant sniff what butch did in 2000

It's 2015. What has Butch done since 2000?

Nobody is sniffing what butch did in 2000 and that's including butch. That's once in a lifetime type **** and likely won't happen again.

If he were the coach miami would have more talent. He might be able to build a team good enough to compete for a nc but not at the 2000 level.

No one's sniffing a Sugar Bowl win at UM?

Lol. I'm talking about the team he built.

 

[deleted3746]

Larry fedora lost to Golden twice, including last year in a 6-7 campaign.
Currently UNC SOS is at 71, and the only loss is to 3-7 South carolina

When Butch went to NC, they were irrelevant, and he supposedly raised around 100 million bucks, and had some some serious talent until the academic scandal broke.

Fedora has done a nice job, and UNC should be happy with the 10 win, coastal championship ceiling, but he is no Butch Davis. He cant sniff what butch did in 2000

It's 2015. What has Butch done since 2000?

Nobody is sniffing what butch did in 2000 and that's including butch. That's once in a lifetime type **** and likely won't happen again.

If he were the coach miami would have more talent. He might be able to build a team good enough to compete for a nc but not at the 2000 level.

My point is if Butch were here, we would be better then SC, and a lot better than Fedora's UNC and his once in a lifetime offensive playmaker QB, because we would be loaded with South FL talent. It is ridiculous that we have people pining for Fcking Fedora when Butch is asking for the job.

Look at the recruiting classes Butch pulled at UNC. He had 5*s and 4*s all over the **** place. He had NFL talent. He underachieved with that talent.

Fedora took Butch's players in 2012 and finished tied for first in the coastal. Fedora has shown he can compete in the ACC with Butch's players, and his own players.

 

[pyhooya]

Larry fedora lost to Golden twice, including last year in a 6-7 campaign.
Currently UNC SOS is at 71, and the only loss is to 3-7 South carolina

When Butch went to NC, they were irrelevant, and he supposedly raised around 100 million bucks, and had some some serious talent until the academic scandal broke.

Fedora has done a nice job, and UNC should be happy with the 10 win, coastal championship ceiling, but he is no Butch Davis. He cant sniff what butch did in 2000

It's 2015. What has Butch done since 2000?

How many current ranked teams has Fedora beaten this year or will beat this year? ZERO.. How many ranked teams did Fedora beat last year.....ZERO. How bout the year before.....ZERO....how bout the year before that......

So Fedora has beaten the same number of ranked teams as Butch the last 3-4 years.....makes sense to hire him...smdh

He's 9-1. How many great teams has Ohio State beaten this year? Does that mean that Ohio State isn't any good?

So you want a 1 year hit corch that hasnt shown he can beat a ranked team.......makes sense

 

[Rellyrell]

Larry fedora lost to Golden twice, including last year in a 6-7 campaign.
Currently UNC SOS is at 71, and the only loss is to 3-7 South carolina

When Butch went to NC, they were irrelevant, and he supposedly raised around 100 million bucks, and had some some serious talent until the academic scandal broke.

Fedora has done a nice job, and UNC should be happy with the 10 win, coastal championship ceiling, but he is no Butch Davis. He cant sniff what butch did in 2000

It's 2015. What has Butch done since 2000?

How many current ranked teams has Fedora beaten this year or will beat this year? ZERO.. How many ranked teams did Fedora beat last year.....ZERO. How bout the year before.....ZERO....how bout the year before that......

So Fedora has beaten the same number of ranked teams as Butch the last 3-4 years.....makes sense to hire him...smdh

He's 9-1. How many great teams has Ohio State beaten this year? Does that mean that Ohio State isn't any good?

No, it doesn't...but would I put money on OSU repeating as champions this year based upon what i've seen this year vs. last year, nope.

 

[Mico Jones]

LOL at Franchise advocating for a corch who lost to a 6-7 corched Al Golden team 47-20 in year 3 of his taking over the program. That game was over by the 1st quarter.

What a clown

Strong Point

 

[252cane]

Larry fedora lost to Golden twice, including last year in a 6-7 campaign.
Currently UNC SOS is at 71, and the only loss is to 3-7 South carolina

When Butch went to NC, they were irrelevant, and he supposedly raised around 100 million bucks, and had some some serious talent until the academic scandal broke.

Fedora has done a nice job, and UNC should be happy with the 10 win, coastal championship ceiling, but he is no Butch Davis. He cant sniff what butch did in 2000

It's 2015. What has Butch done since 2000?

How many current ranked teams has Fedora beaten this year or will beat this year? ZERO.. How many ranked teams did Fedora beat last year.....ZERO. How bout the year before.....ZERO....how bout the year before that......

So Fedora has beaten the same number of ranked teams as Butch the last 3-4 years.....makes sense to hire him...smdh

So you're saying Butch hasn't done anything since the 2000 season. Got it.

Fedora did beat a ranked team. His last year at southern miss they beat houston in the conf championship game. Southern miss went 12-2 i think that year and houston was like 13-1.

 

[MIATL]

Easy answer to the Butch vs. Fedora debate:

Would UNC give up Fedora to get Butch back?

I'm guessing they wouldn't ...

If they wouldn't trade Fedora for Butch, that would suggest they view Fedora as the better coach ...

Lol...you guys KILL me. Ok, so how many are casual football fans vs. Canes fans on here? So Larry is better than Butch, b/c in year four against a powder puff schedule he's 9-1? Let's go down his history b/4 we crown him:

In year one he started off 8-4...not bad for a first year coach taking over a mess, but in year two he went to 7-6, and then in year three he went to 6-7. But now that's he's 9-1 we should hire him?? Could it be that the 9-1 is very similar to when Miami started off 7-0 in 2013?

Game one, L to a bad USCe team
Game two, blow out to out their brethren UNC...A&T
Game three, blow out of Illinois (we know the problems they are having there)
Game four, blow out of the mighty Delaware Fighting Blue Hens
Game five, win against an overrated, back to earth GT team
Game six, blow out against their other basketball arch rival, Wake Forest
Game seven, win against the UVA Cavaliers
Game eight, win against an up and coming Pitt team
Game nine, win against a spiraling Duke team
Game ten, win against us

So out of the 9 wins, 2 of them came at the expense of 2 FCS teams and the other 7 came at the expense of teams who compiled a 47% winning pct.

How many ranked teams have Fedora beat this year? How many ranked teams have Fedora played this year?

You can't even compare the two in coaching abilities. Butch had #8 LSU, #16 FSU, #15 VT and #25 NC State on the schedule, this w/ 13 impactful players missing from his roster!

Some of will go to great lengths to try to trash Butch and you STILL haven't learned your lesson from when he was here. Is it b/c he made us all out to look bad for calling for his head? Is it b/c it took him 5 years to finally get us back to being the bullies on the block? Or is it b/c he left when he was building a dynasty in the making and you resent him b/c now look at us?

Whatever it is, get over it. You don't need to try to put him down by elevating a corch who's doing a good job against a weak schedule.

You're taking this way too personally ...

I'll make it clear for you:

I don't resent Butch. I just don't think he's as good a HC TODAY as he was 10-20 years ago. I think Butch is on the descent, and I think Fedora is on the ascent.

Doesn't mean I think Butch was terrible, or a failure. I just think he's past his prime.

Still built the greatest team of all-time. I'm not knocking what he did at UM.

But his time at UNC wasn't that special ... Considering what Mack Brown did, and what Fedora is doing. Clearly, good coaches can win there ... And win at a high level. Butch never did that ... And he was there 5 years ago ...

 

[252cane]

Larry fedora lost to Golden twice, including last year in a 6-7 campaign.
Currently UNC SOS is at 71, and the only loss is to 3-7 South carolina

When Butch went to NC, they were irrelevant, and he supposedly raised around 100 million bucks, and had some some serious talent until the academic scandal broke.

Fedora has done a nice job, and UNC should be happy with the 10 win, coastal championship ceiling, but he is no Butch Davis. He cant sniff what butch did in 2000

It's 2015. What has Butch done since 2000?

How many current ranked teams has Fedora beaten this year or will beat this year? ZERO.. How many ranked teams did Fedora beat last year.....ZERO. How bout the year before.....ZERO....how bout the year before that......

So Fedora has beaten the same number of ranked teams as Butch the last 3-4 years.....makes sense to hire him...smdh

He's 9-1. How many great teams has Ohio State beaten this year? Does that mean that Ohio State isn't any good?

So you want a 1 year hit corch that hasnt shown he can beat a ranked team.......makes sense

He beat houston and ucf and both finished the season ranked.

 

[The Franchise]

Larry fedora lost to Golden twice, including last year in a 6-7 campaign.
Currently UNC SOS is at 71, and the only loss is to 3-7 South carolina

When Butch went to NC, they were irrelevant, and he supposedly raised around 100 million bucks, and had some some serious talent until the academic scandal broke.

Fedora has done a nice job, and UNC should be happy with the 10 win, coastal championship ceiling, but he is no Butch Davis. He cant sniff what butch did in 2000

It's 2015. What has Butch done since 2000?

How many current ranked teams has Fedora beaten this year or will beat this year? ZERO.. How many ranked teams did Fedora beat last year.....ZERO. How bout the year before.....ZERO....how bout the year before that......

So Fedora has beaten the same number of ranked teams as Butch the last 3-4 years.....makes sense to hire him...smdh

He's 9-1. How many great teams has Ohio State beaten this year? Does that mean that Ohio State isn't any good?

So you want a 1 year hit corch that hasnt shown he can beat a ranked team.......makes sense

Learn to read and comprehend if you can. My argument is that Fedora is better than Butch, not that I think we should hire him. But if we're going to hire Butch, then we might as well go after the guy who is his superior.

 

[MIATL]

Larry fedora lost to Golden twice, including last year in a 6-7 campaign.
Currently UNC SOS is at 71, and the only loss is to 3-7 South carolina

When Butch went to NC, they were irrelevant, and he supposedly raised around 100 million bucks, and had some some serious talent until the academic scandal broke.

Fedora has done a nice job, and UNC should be happy with the 10 win, coastal championship ceiling, but he is no Butch Davis. He cant sniff what butch did in 2000

It's 2015. What has Butch done since 2000?

It's 2015, what has fedora done? He was 6-7 and lost badly to 6-7 Golden coached Miami. Imagine if he didn't land Williams, who is pretty much his whole offense

About to win the coastal and go to the ACC CG.

What was Butch's greatest accomplishment at UNC?

check it [MENTION=3746]Thread Killa[/MENTION]....

You give Butch two FCS teams and a schedule that features teams with a combined winning pct. of 47% thus far, bet money that he wins the ACC Coastal. ****, you give Golden that same schedule, and bet money he wins the ACC Coastal.
Butch had 4 top 25 teams on his schedule w/ 13 players lost in year 4.You're ready to crown a corch who's gone 8-4, 7-6, and 6-7 over the past 3 years b/c he's now 9-1 with one of the softest schedules in FBS? So glad you're not our school's AD, blood.

Here's the 2009 season ... Check the schedule and the record.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_North_Carolina_Tar_Heels_football_team

2009 North Carolina Tar Heels Football Schedule | UNC

He didn't sniff the Coastal ...

He lost to 3-9 UVA and 5-7 NC State.

His best win was over 9-4 Miami.

It's also important to note, the team was a pre-season top 20 team ... So, the media thought he had some talent. Wasn't like UNC was viewed as an average team ...

That's the definition of "under-performing".

 

[deleted3746]

Fedora: 19-11 in ACC games

Butch: 15-17 in ACC games