Buzz on next steps

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@DMoney what is your take on how UM should progress with QB recruiting?

The free-spending schools are going to continue driving the prices up on each other, and I don't foresee jumping into that pool as a path to success for UM.

For starters, financial resources at UM will never be limitless, it will need to be spread out. We can't have all the money sitting in the QB room, as important as it is.

More importantly, I don't think it's necessary. If you look at the 2019 and 2020 QB classes, they've had a good amount of time to marinate. In 2019, the two top consensus guys were Bo Nix and Spencer Rattler, and I think it is safe to say they underwhelmed.

Clemson signed Taisun Photoboothmackachacah and DJ Urologicaluhoh in 2019 and 2020, respectively. They were both top tier guys and one transferred while the other can't complete a forward pass.

I think we will have more success bypassing the guys looking for NFL Rookie level payouts. There are plenty of very good to excellent QB prospects still looking for the right fit. I'd rather evaluate them and find our guy than chase. That's basically the TVD formula.

We may have to go to the portal to fill in for the years we make the wrong call, because that will happen, but I wouldn't rely on that too heavily because the top transfers are going to cost big money, too. It used to be the 3 star kid from Nowhere, USA who shines at Nowehere U either stayed put until he Grad transferred, but that won't be the case anymore. He will get paid, too.
 
I think people are overreacting a little to the WR issue. Sure, the group could use a speedy target. But it's not a bad WR group. Some of the people on this board are making it sound like this is the year we trotted out Khalil Jones and the punter (Brian Monroe) as our top 2 WR's. This group has talent.

They did not have a good spring game, but I still think a group of Restrepo, K Smith, George, Brinson (who was out), B Smith, Ladson, Redding/Worsham (I doubt both will stay), and Horton is a solid rotation. There's likely no superstar in that group, but we have some diverse weapons. I would love to add a speedy vertical WR, but I don't think the situation is as dire as some are making it out to be.
You’re underestimating the WR issue...

Your premise would be 100% correct if this was last year’s offense, but in this system, it’s gonna be a problem.

We absolutely NEED a WR or two from the Portal & we should’ve been more aggressive for a more proven commodity back in Jan-Feb when there was way more talented WR’s in the Portal.

Ty Harrell is more than likely headed to Bama & we have to hope someone else with that kinda game changing speed falls out of the sky in the Portal, which the odds are probably low of happening if we’re betting on it.

The current WR group is unproven, we know what we have with Restrepo, but the rest playing in this offense are not gonna have it as easy as it was last year, this isn’t a system that’s conducive to high volume perimeter targets. They have good potential & upside & I think they’ll eventually do well as the season progresses, but there will absolutely be some growing pains early on that we’ll have to overcome. That’s why it’s so important for us to add Speed, because otherwise the field will get condensed pretty quick if teams don’t feel like we have a true Deep threat.

But the caveat, is the TE’s are going to absolutely feast, so that could be enough to counterbalance the lack of explosiveness on the outside, plus the RB’s will get a lot of targets out of the backfield as well.
 
I know everyone's been saying it so I'm going to join in

I haven't been this excited in our future since richt took over and I had way more reservations then.

What an incredible feeling to have hope again
 
@DMoney what is your take on how UM should progress with QB recruiting?

The free-spending schools are going to continue driving the prices up on each other, and I don't foresee jumping into that pool as a path to success for UM.

For starters, financial resources at UM will never be limitless, it will need to be spread out. We can't have all the money sitting in the QB room, as important as it is.

More importantly, I don't think it's necessary. If you look at the 2019 and 2020 QB classes, they've had a good amount of time to marinate. In 2019, the two top consensus guys were Bo Nix and Spencer Rattler, and I think it is safe to say they underwhelmed.

Clemson signed Taisun Photoboothmackachacah and DJ Urologicaluhoh in 2019 and 2020, respectively. They were both top tier guys and one transferred while the other can't complete a forward pass.

I think we will have more success bypassing the guys looking for NFL Rookie level payouts. There are plenty of very good to excellent QB prospects still looking for the right fit. I'd rather evaluate them and find our guy than chase. That's basically the TVD formula.

We may have to go to the portal to fill in for the years we make the wrong call, because that will happen, but I wouldn't rely on that too heavily because the top transfers are going to cost big money, too. It used to be the 3 star kid from Nowhere, USA who shines at Nowehere U either stayed put until he Grad transferred, but that won't be the case anymore. He will get paid, too.
You could have googled their names - I bet you would have taken the effort to write Trevor Lawrence or Cade Klubnick.

Clown
 
RB is wide open and anyone's guess is as good as anyone else's as to how it shakes out.

Each RB brings some positives & some limitations to the table. I'd say - just like the fans have their favorites, coaches might have their favorites as well. Doesn't mean whoever starts the year #1 on the depth chart is really that much better than who starts at #4/#5.

I could see the RB depth chart going through a good amount of changes as the year goes on as well.

If I'm Citizen, I'm working my *** off right right now because climbing up the depth chart quickly should be very much in play for him.
 
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You could have googled their names - I bet you would have taken the effort to write Trevor Lawrence or Cade Klubnick.

Clown

Neither Spiccoli nor Cluber Lang are that important to me either.


Karen
 
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I saw at worse a 8-4 squad yesterday
Agreed but I bet if we watched some of our opponent’s springs games we’d be crowing about UM.
I think most teams, short of 2-3, will look questionable in spring games and fans will focus on weaknesses rather than strengths.
****, even Bama’s receivers didn’t look good last year against UGA after Williams’s was hurt.
 
This defense is better than last year's simply if we aren't dead last in the P5 in tackling. They're not loaded with talent but it's not like they lost a lot from last season so there's not a drop-off in that department.

I fully expect us to be improved in pass coverage and much better at tackling. That should make us a middle of the road defense. Nothing special but good enough to keep us in games, especially if our offense is allowed to play the way they should.
we will be better just by tackling better
 
Here's where the WR group gives me concern.

Rambo hauled in a lot of 50-50 and 60-40 balls last year, many for big chunk plays. Who will haul in those passes this year? Key hasn't demonstrated enough consistency yet; we all hope George is that guy but he had all of 7 catches that year. He is going to make a leap but there's no history to suggest he's that guy.

I liked what I saw out of Brinson in limited time last year. It's a shame he's been out because he seems like a guy with nice potential.
remembering that our WR group didn't looked that hot last spring: Rambo was okay at the spring game, before showing out in the fall : plus Rambo is running 4.5 forties in his pro tryouts, nice speed, but not overpowering
 
You’re underestimating the WR issue...

Your premise would be 100% correct if this was last year’s offense, but in this system, it’s gonna be a problem.

We absolutely NEED a WR or two from the Portal & we should’ve been more aggressive for a more proven commodity back in Jan-Feb when there was way more talented WR’s in the Portal.

Ty Harrell is more than likely headed to Bama & we have to hope someone else with that kinda game changing speed falls out of the sky in the Portal, which the odds are probably low of happening if we’re betting on it.

The current WR group is unproven, we know what we have with Restrepo, but the rest playing in this offense are not gonna have it as easy as it was last year, this isn’t a system that’s conducive to high volume perimeter targets. They have good potential & upside & I think they’ll eventually do well as the season progresses, but there will absolutely be some growing pains early on that we’ll have to overcome. That’s why it’s so important for us to add Speed, because otherwise the field will get condensed pretty quick if teams don’t feel like we have a true Deep threat.

But the caveat, is the TE’s are going to absolutely feast, so that could be enough to counterbalance the lack of explosiveness on the outside, plus the RB’s will get a lot of targets out of the backfield as well.
Do you feel our receiver talent is as good as Michigan’s from last year?

I watched a lot of Michigan games and they did not have explosive players at receiver but the use of the TE’s and RB’s in th e passing game, along with a good running game which featured a lot of TE blocking, was more than enough for Michigan to have a very productive offense.

Look, I want more explosive receivers similar to Rambo as well, but I think with TVD at quarterback, the RB’s and TE’s we have and with Gattis at OC, we will average nothing less than 30 a game.

I simply do not think Gattis’ offense needs the receiving talent that Lashlee’s offense does because Gattis makes better use of other weapons.
And is the ACC any better than the Big 10? No. Michigan was a few plays from being undefeated last year without having a receiver that anyone can name.
 
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remembering that our WR group didn't looked that hot last spring: Rambo was okay at the spring game, before showing out in the fall : plus Rambo is running 4.5 forties in his pro tryouts, nice speed, but not overpowering
Thank you. And the year before at OU, Rambo was an absolute afterthought. Rambo was very good for us, but his draft position will show that he was not unbelievable, much like KJ Osborne. Guys you definitely want but not guys who make or break a season.
 
Great post but thinking Scaife is a starter is crazy , he almost got a running back killed by totally missing a block in the spring game and got lost several times as who to block. Loved Sagapolu as a run blocker but he showed that LT is not big or strong enough yet by pancaking him several times during the game. Loved the TEs as they can run, block and catch well just not happy to see they were wide open most of the game as this has killed us in past years letting TEs get open often.
 
I would be surprised if we hang on to all our CB's. Even if you pencil in Blades and Frierson at the nickel/star position, we've still got Stevenson, Porter, Ivey, Dunson, Couch, Clarke, and Curtis returning, with Rogers, Graves, and Harris on their way in, all for 2 CB spots.

Stevenson, Ivey, Frierson, and Blades are gone after this year, Porter just transferred so he is set for this season at least.

It has also been mentioned that Clarke may be seeing some writing on the wall but Dunson has been making some plays.

Couch is a 4th year junior I believe so maybe he bolts after the season (draft or tried to go to another school to improve stock as a grad transfer)

So plenty of time for the youngins, Rogers coming off an ACL likely does not have high hopes for the season, pretty sure Graves will still be 17 when the season rolls around, he should be going into his senior year of HS and Harris was always seen as a little bit of a project. .
 
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The best ability is availability, can't make the club in the tub, etc. etc.

He has the tools, but lacks toughness which shows when blocking or attempting to.

As Antrel repeated, 'We need dogs!'
His blocking is terrible but same time I wouldn’t just say the kid lacks toughness

That’s not fair I don’t think. He had a ton of drops and then really turned it on last year and became a huge weapon

I agree with you in general just don’t think toughness is an issue with him

He’s just physically limited in some ways and a huge weapon in others so that’s Gattis’ job
 
Do you feel our receiver talent is as good as Michigan’s from last year?

I watched a lot of Michigan games and they did not have explosive players at receiver but the use of the TE’s and RB’s in th e passing game, along with a good running game which featured a lot of TE blocking, was more than enough for Michigan to have a very productive offense.

Look, I want more explosive receivers similar to Rambo as well, but I think with TVD at quarterback, the RB’s and TE’s we have and with Gattis at OC, we will average nothing less than 30 a game.

I simply do not think Gattis’ offense needs the receiving talent that Lashlee’s offense does because Gattis makes better use of other weapons.
And is the ACC any better than the Big 10? No. Michigan was a few plays from being undefeated last year without having a receiver that anyone can name.
Yes they are.

Here’s the oversight you’re making, Miami is not Michigan & we shouldn’t want to be.

Miami doesn’t have Michigan’s OL or overall team makeup from a personnel standpoint & we don’t play in the same style of conference as them. Those teams are geared for Northern/Midwestern style hard nosed Football, we don’t play any teams like that. The ACC is a different conference altogether, you don’t need to be a prolific offense in the B1G, if you have a run game & Defense you’ll win most of your games because they play football in Phonebooth, Miami ain’t winning 10 games playing that style, not in year 1, maybe next year, but not this year.

The idea that we don’t need WR talent is kinda crazy, but I understand where you’re trying to go with that.

I’ll simply put it like this, if you want to see this Offense be at it’s best you should also want us to have legitimate WR threats on the outside. Scoring 30 a game works fine if your Defense is really good only allowing 15-20 a game or less, Miami doesn’t have that kind of stout Defense yet where we can just play conservative ball control games & wear the clock down. Without explosiveness we’ll be vulnerable against teams we should be better than.

But I guess it simply boils down to what your expectations are, if you think we’re supposed to be a 10 win team capable of winning the Coastal in year 1, then you should definitely hope & want for us to be lethal at WR, but if you think we’re more on a slow & steady progression to becoming the style of team yall want us to be & see us more as a 8 win type of team then I totally get where you’re coming from.
 
D$ do you still think Leonard Taylor has 1st rd ability at DT if he’s considered undersized?

Coming out of HS he was a can’t miss 5 Star DT and best DL prospect from SoFla in years. Do you think he was overrated and his size will prevent him from being a true dominate DT?

Similar with Chaney. Thought he looked like a tier 1 RB Who could go rd 1-3 as a freshman. Now we’re talking about him as 4th on the depth chart and potentially passed by an incoming freshman?

These two guys had 5 star potential coming out of HS in SoFla. What happened
Not worried about LT he will get bigger and stronger he’s still probably 19-20 still super young give him time man he’s been here a year and a half
 
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