Buzz on next steps

Buzz on next steps

DMoney
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I think people are overreacting a little to the WR issue. Sure, the group could use a speedy target. But it's not a bad WR group. Some of the people on this board are making it sound like this is the year we trotted out Khalil Jones and the punter (Brian Monroe) as our top 2 WR's. This group has talent.

They did not have a good spring game, but I still think a group of Restrepo, K Smith, George, Brinson (who was out), B Smith, Ladson, Redding/Worsham (I doubt both will stay), and Horton is a solid rotation. There's likely no superstar in that group, but we have some diverse weapons. I would love to add a speedy vertical WR, but I don't think the situation is as dire as some are making it out to be.
The problem is that no one has separated themselves to be THE GUY. We have a few good slot receivers and average everywhere else (by eye test and production). K Smith could prove us all wrong. Same with Jacolby George. But this ain’t an area where you can just plug and play. They need time to build chemistry with the QB. So we needed to see someone step up by Spring Game and be this person and it hasn’t happened. If it were with Stephen Morris as a QB or Brad Kaaya, so be it, but we’ve got the gun slinger TVD back there. He is what we have been waiting for since well before Kaaya. It’s got me concerned as we aren’t stout on defense to counteract a lack of air production. And that leaves us one dimensional with the run.
 
Do you feel our receiver talent is as good as Michigan’s from last year?

I watched a lot of Michigan games and they did not have explosive players at receiver but the use of the TE’s and RB’s in th e passing game, along with a good running game which featured a lot of TE blocking, was more than enough for Michigan to have a very productive offense.

Look, I want more explosive receivers similar to Rambo as well, but I think with TVD at quarterback, the RB’s and TE’s we have and with Gattis at OC, we will average nothing less than 30 a game.

I simply do not think Gattis’ offense needs the receiving talent that Lashlee’s offense does because Gattis makes better use of other weapons.
And is the ACC any better than the Big 10? No. Michigan was a few plays from being undefeated last year without having a receiver that anyone can name.
Talent for talent, our group is better than Michigan's from last year. It's impossible to say for sure since a majority of our guys haven't gotten significant game action outside of Restrepo and K Smith but in terms of recruiting rankings, our guys have the edge by a decent margin. They only had one receiver with more than 25 catches (two if you count the tight end). Their top guy, Cornelius Johnson had 40 catches for 627 yards and 3 TDs. About half of the production we got out of Rambo. And they played 14 games to our 12. Their tight end production on a per game basis wasn't anything special either. Between their top two guys they averaged around 4 catches for 43 yards per game. Mallory and Arroyo by contrast averaged 3.5 catches for 37 yards per game.

Their offense, which Gattis earned the Broyles award for running, scored 35.8 points per game and 443 yards per game.
Contrasted with our offense last year which averaged 34.1 points and 450 yards.

Everyone wants to bring in a big time portal receiver but I'm not sure how many want to play in an offense that doesn't feature outside receivers.
 
The Manny apologists are gonna look even worse in the next 12-18 months than they do now.

Bum *** FSU loser who would've sunk the program for an additional three years if we didn't fire him in December.

We'll win some games for sure with a much-improved staff and the perpetually garbage Coastal, but a Miami roster with this many holes is inexcusable.
You're definitely not wrong. We have a healthy amount of very good players and developing talent with high upside, but we're clearly lacking the truly elite first round types right now. Only way to fix that is thru recruiting & thankfully it's Mario's strength.
 
Now that you spell it out, I'm a little nervous about how many holes we have. Anybody who thinks 10 wins is the benchmark for this season is overly optimistic. If we're getting to that level, the next few weeks need to be really good.
Looks like we are on the same page now.
 
Yes they are.

Here’s the oversight you’re making, Miami is not Michigan & we shouldn’t want to be.

Miami doesn’t have Michigan’s OL or overall team makeup from a personnel standpoint & we don’t play in the same style of conference as them. Those teams are geared for Northern/Midwestern style hard nosed Football, we don’t play any teams like that. The ACC is a different conference altogether, you don’t need to be a prolific offense in the B1G, if you have a run game & Defense you’ll win most of your games because they play football in Phonebooth, Miami ain’t winning 10 games playing that style, not in year 1, maybe next year, but not this year.

The idea that we don’t need WR talent is kinda crazy, but I understand where you’re trying to go with that.

I’ll simply put it like this, if you want to see this Offense be at it’s best you should also want us to have legitimate WR threats on the outside. Scoring 30 a game works fine if your Defense is really good only allowing 15-20 a game or less, Miami doesn’t have that kind of stout Defense yet where we can just play conservative ball control games & wear the clock down. Without explosiveness we’ll be vulnerable against teams we should be better than.

But I guess it simply boils down to what your expectations are, if you think we’re supposed to be a 10 win team capable of winning the Coastal in year 1, then you should definitely hope & want for us to be lethal at WR, but if you think we’re more on a slow & steady progression to becoming the style of team yall want us to be & see us more as a 8 win type of team then I totally get where you’re coming from.
Extremely well said!

The difference is last year we had more proven players - Rambo had a 750 yd season at Oklahoma & Harley had 800 yd season. And they were Seniors.

In 2019 - Wiggins & Pope had 300 yd seasons in their Soph years. The projection was they'd take the next step - but that didn't happen. That's why we needed Rambo to transfer in last year.

Our current Soph WR's are talented for sure - but we don't have the luxury of assuming they're all definitely going to take that next step.
 
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Nah man Parrish is going to play because he’s put in the work and earned his snaps. No favoritism will be happening on Mario’s staff. There’s a role for him in Gattis’s offense AND he’s proven he can stay healthy. There was a lot of hitting this Spring and we never saw him in a none contact jersey.

**** skippy. He played ok on Saturday. Plus he's proven against real defenses.
 
Parrish looked slow. TVD was sailing his throws. Our WR group might be the worst in the ACC - plenty of ability but can’t catch the football in traffic.

Our OL is not too promising and now that Mims is out, even less so. We need tackles.

On defense, our DL is undersized and weak. Our LB problems have not been addressed. At CB, we have one (TS) who is decent and C- depth behind that.

Mario has so far failed to address the problems at tackle, DT, DE, LB, and CB despite being here months with the portal wide open
 
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Parrish looked slow. TVD was sailing his throws. Our WR group might be the worst in the ACC - plenty of ability but can’t catch the football in traffic.

Our OL is not too promising and now that Mims is out, even less so. We need tackles.

On defense, our DL is undersized and weak. Our LB problems have not been addressed. At CB, we have one (TS) who is decent and C- depth behind that.

Mario has so far failed to address the problems at tackle, DT, DE, LB, and CB despite being here months with the portal wide open
Y’all banned Tony Perps, a diehard fan who just doesn’t like Mario, but let this idiot spew his bull**** all over the board
 
You’re underestimating the WR issue...

Your premise would be 100% correct if this was last year’s offense, but in this system, it’s gonna be a problem.

We absolutely NEED a WR or two from the Portal & we should’ve been more aggressive for a more proven commodity back in Jan-Feb when there was way more talented WR’s in the Portal.

Ty Harrell is more than likely headed to Bama & we have to hope someone else with that kinda game changing speed falls out of the sky in the Portal, which the odds are probably low of happening if we’re betting on it.

The current WR group is unproven, we know what we have with Restrepo, but the rest playing in this offense are not gonna have it as easy as it was last year, this isn’t a system that’s conducive to high volume perimeter targets. They have good potential & upside & I think they’ll eventually do well as the season progresses, but there will absolutely be some growing pains early on that we’ll have to overcome. That’s why it’s so important for us to add Speed, because otherwise the field will get condensed pretty quick if teams don’t feel like we have a true Deep threat.

But the caveat, is the TE’s are going to absolutely feast, so that could be enough to counterbalance the lack of explosiveness on the outside, plus the RB’s will get a lot of targets out of the backfield as well.
Couldn’t agree more. A true #1 like Rambo would be great if he comes available but we really need speed. Cant stop thinking about the Clemson game 2 years ago when they left their corners on an island all night and we couldn’t beat them.
 
Parrish looked slow. TVD was sailing his throws. Our WR group might be the worst in the ACC - plenty of ability but can’t catch the football in traffic.

Our OL is not too promising and now that Mims is out, even less so. We need tackles.

On defense, our DL is undersized and weak. Our LB problems have not been addressed. At CB, we have one (TS) who is decent and C- depth behind that.

Mario has so far failed to address the problems at tackle, DT, DE, LB, and CB despite being here months with the portal wide open
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1. Great write up & recap about our portal focus @DMoney

2. It’s been a general consensus from pretty much most posters on here, myself included, there’s deep concerns in The WR, DL, & LB rooms, satisfied in the QB, RB, & TE rooms, & cautiously optimistic in the OL room.

3. As @Liberty City El so eloquently posted, some r underestimating the importance of the WR room. This is no longer Lashlee’s offense, where TVD is just dealing. It’s a pro spread which will be more balanced. If we don’t have dynamic WRs to stretch the field, the offense will be hamstrung. Not being able to stretch out the Def, allows them to play w/in a box, which limits production.

4. I’ll stand by what I stated: as this team is currently constructed, I expect 8-9 wins at the most. I’ll be pleasantly surprised if we won 10+ games in yr 1
 
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You’re underestimating the WR issue...

Your premise would be 100% correct if this was last year’s offense, but in this system, it’s gonna be a problem.

We absolutely NEED a WR or two from the Portal & we should’ve been more aggressive for a more proven commodity back in Jan-Feb when there was way more talented WR’s in the Portal.

Ty Harrell is more than likely headed to Bama & we have to hope someone else with that kinda game changing speed falls out of the sky in the Portal, which the odds are probably low of happening if we’re betting on it.

The current WR group is unproven, we know what we have with Restrepo, but the rest playing in this offense are not gonna have it as easy as it was last year, this isn’t a system that’s conducive to high volume perimeter targets. They have good potential & upside & I think they’ll eventually do well as the season progresses, but there will absolutely be some growing pains early on that we’ll have to overcome. That’s why it’s so important for us to add Speed, because otherwise the field will get condensed pretty quick if teams don’t feel like we have a true Deep threat.

But the caveat, is the TE’s are going to absolutely feast, so that could be enough to counterbalance the lack of explosiveness on the outside, plus the RB’s will get a lot of targets out of the backfield as well.
So, let the WRs prove themselves. If we keep going to the portal for WRs, these guys never get on the field development and then WTF are we recruiting them in the first place. We have Blue Chip WRs. Gattis has to get the most out of them.

Last year, all the talk was about getting George, Brinson, and B. Smith in our 2021 class. Now, all the sudden we got nobody?
 
Y’all banned Tony Perps, a diehard fan who just doesn’t like Mario, but let this idiot spew his bull**** all over the board

If anything I said was wrong, let’s hear it. Otherwise take your sensitive *** on out of here.
 
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So, let the WRs prove themselves. If we keep going to the portal for WRs, these guys never get on the field development and then WTF are we recruiting them in the first place. We have Blue Chip WRs. Gattis has to get the most out of them.

Last year, all the talk was about getting George, Brinson, and B. Smith in our 2021 class. Now, all the sudden we got nobody?

We’re recruiting them to catch the football. Can’t do that, then get passed up by a transfer. It’s that simple.

Restreppo will start, and he’s the least athletic of the bunch in terms of height and speed. But he catches the football and puts in the work
 
I know everyone's been saying it so I'm going to join in

I haven't been this excited in our future since richt took over and I had way more reservations then.

What an incredible feeling to have hope again
Just to try and digest the promise of stability this team (AD and down) brings is amazing. This is Sam Jankovich/Schnelly territory. No personnel comparisons intended, just the situation. All the b!+chin9 we did regarding former AD, and how his wet noodle persona trickled down the organization, was all valid.

These days, I’m just happy to sit back and try and soak it all in, all the amazing insights, hopes and program transformations leave me speechless. No more sneaking to my man cave on Saturdays to have the game on, and visit pornhub (or dating sites) at the same time because of inept game planning/coaching. I’ll watch the game with the wife around. I’ll teach my wife (and pretend) to laugh with me at the twerking a$$ pics and gifs that @BabaYaga & Co. put on with every TD And win. No more stress, I’ll put this baby on autopilot hereon.
 
Couldn’t agree more. A true #1 like Rambo would be great if he comes available but we really need speed. Cant stop thinking about the Clemson game 2 years ago when they left their corners on an island all night and we couldn’t beat them.
I don't think it's fair or accurate to compare our current combination of OC (any OC willing to scheme a bit), QB, and WRs (players known to fall down in almost any 50-50 ball) to what we pushed out there against Clemson 2 years ago.

I also refuse to accept Gattis will be totally unwilling to alter some of his sets and playcalling to TVD's strengths and our WRs. But, that's just my hope.
 
Couldn’t agree more. A true #1 like Rambo would be great if he comes available but we really need speed. Cant stop thinking about the Clemson game 2 years ago when they left their corners on an island all night and we couldn’t beat them.
That wasn't a speed issue, that was beating press coverage. Mark Pope and Dee Wiggins were both 4.4 guys but if you jammed them, they were worthless.
 
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