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[Dwinstitles]

Walton has a higher NFL ceiling than Duke.

exactly lol

Walton is better than duke n it will show this year and in the league

I respect what you have to say most of the time, but I just can't take this seriously. Time will tell, but there's no way I can see Walton doing what Duke did for Miami.

In college duke did more because he was allowed to do more and he's way more shiftier than MW. Walton wasn't asked to be on kick returns punt returns.....u can say that duke was a better college rb but as a NFL prospect Walton looks like he's a notch above because he's more explosive IMO. I could be wrong but MW is a boss u see the film he is a big time competitor and hard worker. Dude running like 50 yards down field for blocks.....he is an old school cane. Even gunner on ST he was murking fools n he suppose to be a sophomore so this season we will see him as mature body wise as we ever will. He should have an all time season

A few problems with your post:

- Walton is in his correct year. He was held back a year in school, and reclassified into his correct grade. He is the correct age to be a true Junior this year.
- Duke is a backup RB in the NFL because of his size. There are almost no starting RB's who weigh under 215 lbs.
- Duke is listed at 5'9" 210 runs a 4.5. Walton is listed at 5'9" 205 runs a 4.6. Duke is bigger and faster.
- Duke had 2 runs over 50 yds in his 1st game. Walton has 2 runs over 40 yds in 26 games. Duke had a 40+ yd run in 11 of his 33 games. Duke is more explosive.
- Duke averaged 6.6 ypc his first 2 years. Walton averaged 4.6 ypc.
- Duke had 55 less carries and 300 more yds than Walton in his first 2 years. Duke is more productive.
- Walton did return kicks his Freshman year. His 17.6 avg per return is the 2nd is only the 3rd time our leading kick returner averaged under 20 yds since the 2000 season. - As a comparison, Malcolm Lewis averaged 21.3 per return last year.
- Duke averaged 33.0 yds (almost double Walton's average) and had 2 TD's on kick returns his Freshman year. Duke is more versatile.

Walton is not bigger, stronger, faster, more productive, more explosive, more versatile, a better athlete, or a better pro prospect than Duke. He is nowhere near Duke.

To compare Walton to Yearby is fair. To compare Walton to Duke is ridiculous.

He is faster then DJ to me when I watch with these eye balls he's more explosive n faster. Would love for other to chime in on this one. He ran a 4.59 and don't give me pro day because everyone runs faster at there prO day

 

[KrazyCane]

Not knocking Mark Walton bc I think he is going to have a big year this year.................. but you got to be really out yo fckn mind to think Mark Walton is better than Duke Johnson smh.

 

[kryptonite]

exactly lol

Walton is better than duke n it will show this year and in the league

I respect what you have to say most of the time, but I just can't take this seriously. Time will tell, but there's no way I can see Walton doing what Duke did for Miami.

In college duke did more because he was allowed to do more and he's way more shiftier than MW. Walton wasn't asked to be on kick returns punt returns.....u can say that duke was a better college rb but as a NFL prospect Walton looks like he's a notch above because he's more explosive IMO. I could be wrong but MW is a boss u see the film he is a big time competitor and hard worker. Dude running like 50 yards down field for blocks.....he is an old school cane. Even gunner on ST he was murking fools n he suppose to be a sophomore so this season we will see him as mature body wise as we ever will. He should have an all time season

A few problems with your post:

- Walton is in his correct year. He was held back a year in school, and reclassified into his correct grade. He is the correct age to be a true Junior this year.
- Duke is a backup RB in the NFL because of his size. There are almost no starting RB's who weigh under 215 lbs.
- Duke is listed at 5'9" 210 runs a 4.5. Walton is listed at 5'9" 205 runs a 4.6. Duke is bigger and faster.
- Duke had 2 runs over 50 yds in his 1st game. Walton has 2 runs over 40 yds in 26 games. Duke had a 40+ yd run in 11 of his 33 games. Duke is more explosive.
- Duke averaged 6.6 ypc his first 2 years. Walton averaged 4.6 ypc.
- Duke had 55 less carries and 300 more yds than Walton in his first 2 years. Duke is more productive.
- Walton did return kicks his Freshman year. His 17.6 avg per return is the 2nd is only the 3rd time our leading kick returner averaged under 20 yds since the 2000 season. - As a comparison, Malcolm Lewis averaged 21.3 per return last year.
- Duke averaged 33.0 yds (almost double Walton's average) and had 2 TD's on kick returns his Freshman year. Duke is more versatile.

Walton is not bigger, stronger, faster, more productive, more explosive, more versatile, a better athlete, or a better pro prospect than Duke. He is nowhere near Duke.

To compare Walton to Yearby is fair. To compare Walton to Duke is ridiculous.

He is faster then DJ to me when I watch with these eye balls he's more explosive n faster. Would love for other to chime in on this one. He ran a 4.59 and don't give me pro day because everyone runs faster at there prO day

I'm only talking about college, I'm not concerned about what the NFL thinks...

To me, Duke's only flaw as a college back was top end speed, so Walton may have him there. Many of those 50yd runs would have been 65yd TDs if he hadn't gotten run down by a DB.

As for "explosive", I've never noticed a back accelerate as quickly as Duke after hitting the hole. Others have better 40 times, but watch Duke after he hits the hole. He puts on this crazy burst of speed that leaves others standing. As I said, guys would catch back up but nobody could hang with that burst.

Basically, I think that Duke was a lot more dangerous than Walton is as far as breaking a long run and his stiff arm was ridiculous. This is not to take anything away from Walton, but Duke was just able to do things that most backs can't.

 

[KrazyCane]

Duke Johnson is still stiff arming the shx out of mfkers in the NFL

 

[Coach Macho]

I 100% agree with this.. Yearby has a natural feel for the game something you can't coach or measure with numbers.

Yet somehow the guys who have coached multiple NFL RB's had him sitting 3rd string behind Walton and a kid from New York City.

Maybe because they believed that their measurables superseded his natural feel for the game. Did you read this whole post? It jas been acknowledged that he isn't as fast or as strong as the other two backs.. but what's the logical explanation for him producing just as well or even better as the other backs?

He didn't produce better. Go check their stats with the same work load. Walton had a much better season.

I think looking at them In the same games during the same season is a much better indicator and as stated above yearby did more with less carries in the 4 game stretch right before he was demoted down the depth chart.

How is that a fair comparison when they're not getting the same work load?

 

[Coach Macho]

When Mark Walton gets picked within the first 3 rounds of the draft you'll still have MF's on here saying that Yearby is better.

 

[brock]

Yeah duke johnson has been good at what he's been asked to do. He's a productive receiving back in the NFL but is underused.

 

[dadecountycane]

mark Walton is on the same level as duke?? looool this site................

 

[brock]

mark Walton is on the same level as duke?? looool this site................

Yeah I don't agree with that, but it needs to be said duke played behind a NFL line with players who have started multiple games in the NFL

 

[kryptonite]

mark Walton is on the same level as duke?? looool this site................

Yeah I don't agree with that, but it needs to be said duke played behind a NFL line with players who have started multiple games in the NFL

No it doesn't.

 

[dukebeeasy305]

Yet somehow the guys who have coached multiple NFL RB's had him sitting 3rd string behind Walton and a kid from New York City.

Maybe because they believed that their measurables superseded his natural feel for the game. Did you read this whole post? It jas been acknowledged that he isn't as fast or as strong as the other two backs.. but what's the logical explanation for him producing just as well or even better as the other backs?

He didn't produce better. Go check their stats with the same work load. Walton had a much better season.

I think looking at them In the same games during the same season is a much better indicator and as stated above yearby did more with less carries in the 4 game stretch right before he was demoted down the depth chart.

How is that a fair comparison when they're not getting the same work load?

The work load doesn't matter if we are talking about averages Walton got more carries and did less with it in the same games behind the same o line against the same defense.. comparing work loads from two separate seasons presents to many variables in this discussion..

 

[Dwinstitles]

Duke Johnson is still stiff arming the shx out of mfkers in the NFL

he had one of the best stiff arms ever.

 

[Dwinstitles]

mark Walton is on the same level as duke?? looool this site................

whats the problem with saying that? if i think that how is that like shocking? because duke did more because he was on punt and kick return and started as a true fresh?

Let me think MW is a better back it isnt that crazy to think...............duke heads have good arguments so im cool with anyone thinkin duke was better i just disagree. As far as the Yearby thing and MW thing thats crazy talk MW is by far a better back stats dont always tell the story and if people throw stats at u most of the time they dont know wtf there talking about.

 

[Coach Macho]

Maybe because they believed that their measurables superseded his natural feel for the game. Did you read this whole post? It jas been acknowledged that he isn't as fast or as strong as the other two backs.. but what's the logical explanation for him producing just as well or even better as the other backs?

He didn't produce better. Go check their stats with the same work load. Walton had a much better season.

I think looking at them In the same games during the same season is a much better indicator and as stated above yearby did more with less carries in the 4 game stretch right before he was demoted down the depth chart.

How is that a fair comparison when they're not getting the same work load?

The work load doesn't matter if we are talking about averages Walton got more carries and did less with it in the same games behind the same o line against the same defense.. comparing work loads from two separate seasons presents to many variables in this discussion..

Work load 100% matters. What in the Sam **** are you talking about?!

 

[tcgrad1014]

Duke was forced to be the workhorse back here because of ****** recruiting. He's not built to be a 25 carries between the tackles guy. The way he's being utilized in the league is what he should have been in college. After all the big plays he had, it's probably not fair to say this, but my biggest memory of Duke will be when he tapped out for freshman Yearby at the end of that FSU game. I couldn't imagine Portis or Edge or Willis doing that. Walton gives me that old school, smash mouth vibe.

 

[Canesfan1899]

There are a lot of lulz in this thread!

 

[Pentagon Cane]

LoL, does it really matter? Walton is going to carry the load especially with a new starting quarterback, and if it's Perry, then it will be similar to Johnson having to carry the load with Kaaya starting as a true freshman.

Johnson was a special player. The best pure zone runner Miami has ever had in my opinion.

What I love about Walton is he wants 300 carries. He's probably pound for pound as strong as any back we've had. Different type of runner than Johnson, good receiver, good in pass pro, he's headed for +1,500 yard season if he stays healthy, knock on wood. Probably 35 catches as well.

LoL, and there is Lorenzo Lingard on the way. That kid is the goods. That's kid is ready for 20 carries a game.

 

[nbrewer22]

mark Walton is on the same level as duke?? looool this site................

whats the problem with saying that? if i think that how is that like shocking? because duke did more because he was on punt and kick return and started as a true fresh?

Let me think MW is a better back it isnt that crazy to think...............duke heads have good arguments so im cool with anyone thinkin duke was better i just disagree. As far as the Yearby thing and MW thing thats crazy talk MW is by far a better back stats dont always tell the story and if people throw stats at u most of the time they dont know wtf there talking about.

You really think that Walton is a better back than Duke? I think Walton is a good back, but I think Duke is the best back we have had since Gore.

He caught the ball out of the backfield, very shifty, had good speed, great change of direction, very fluid runner. You're right, stats don't always tell the story, but they for sure help paint a picture, and Duke is one of 91 players players in CFB history to have 2000 yards from scrimmage in a single season.

 

[Plzwork4]

DW you are highly underrating Duke. Just b/c he is a bit undersized and not a 3 down back in the league doesn't mean he wasn't a game changer for the Canes. He was the most electric player we have had in a Canes jersey since Hester IMO.

Walton is solid, if not spectacular at times, but he is not even close to as explosive as Duke. He is more durable, maybe a bit better long speed, and tough as nails...definitely not more explosive. I think they're 2 different types of backs to be honest. I could see MW carrying the load in the NFL...whereas Duke cannot.

 

[dukebeeasy305]

He didn't produce better. Go check their stats with the same work load. Walton had a much better season.

I think looking at them In the same games during the same season is a much better indicator and as stated above yearby did more with less carries in the 4 game stretch right before he was demoted down the depth chart.

How is that a fair comparison when they're not getting the same work load?

The work load doesn't matter if we are talking about averages Walton got more carries and did less with it in the same games behind the same o line against the same defense.. comparing work loads from two separate seasons presents to many variables in this discussion..

Work load 100% matters. What in the Sam **** are you talking about?!

Well explain this:

Quoted from a poster earlier in the thread. Seems there was plenty of runs Yearby could make vs GT, UNC and VT that Walton couldn't. Yearby had less than half the carries vs UNC Walton had and had 8 yards less and 4 yds per carry more. Matter of fact, from Gt to VT before Yearby got gutted from the field he was out doing Walton in every game.

Walton 64 car 203 yds 3.1 avg

Yearby 38 car 237 yds 6.2 avg

Numbers from the Same games behind the Same O-line against in the SAME defense in the SAME 2016-2017 season and they split the carries throughout the whole game these are not garbage time stats. Go watch the film of these games, the film don't lie. As I stated earlier in this case WORK LOAD DOESN'T MATTER. Why go back a season when there was bad coaching, bad o-line play, different personnel and various other VARIABLES as stated before when we have a large enough sample size in the same year to compare players?