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147 carries 701 yards 4.76 average

That's awful lol. That's leaving off total yards .

Dude just stop , you're making yourself look bad.

Btw rb's rarely get drafted high anymore, this was the first season in awhile that rb's went in first round. So nice try again.

Lmao ur averages suck he averaged 3 an opponent but yall can keep making excuses for him lmao

What grade are you in? Did you finish middle school? Do you know basic math? says stats don't lie and then when provided true stats, he laughs it off like it's not the truth.

Sounds like an Al Golden interview. Al is that you?
 
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Quality opponents

147 carries 701 yards 4.76 average

That's awful lol. That's leaving off total yards .

Dude just stop , you're making yourself look bad.

Btw rb's rarely get drafted high anymore, this was the first season in awhile that rb's went in first round. So nice try again.

Lmao ur averages suck he averaged 3 an opponent but yall can keep making excuses for him lmao

What grade are you in? Did you finish middle school? Do you know basic math? says stats don't lie and then when provided true stats, he laughs it off like it's not the truth.

Sounds like an Al Golden interview. Al is that you?

He's bad at debating and math
 
Which big game didn't he have stats in last year?

2014 (quality opponents)

Vs louisville 20 att 90 yds 0 TDs
Vs NEB 18 att 93 yds 1 TD 1 fum
Vs GT 14 att 100 yds 1 TD
Vs FSU 27 att 130 yds 1 TD
Vs south carolina 24 att 132 yds 1 fum 0 TDs

2013 (quality opponents)

Vs UF 21 att 59 yds 1 TD
Vs FSU 23 att 97 yds

2014 (average-crap teams)

Vs FAMU 9 att 97 yds 1 TD
Vs Arky St 14 att 90 yds 1 TD
Vs cincy 10 att 162 yds 1 TD
Vs VT 29 att 249 yds 1 TD 1 Recieving TD
Vs UNC 19 att 177 yds 2 TDs 1 Recieving TD
Vs UVA 15 att 88 yds 1 fum
Vs Pitt 18 att 89 yds 1 Recieving TD

The only good team he had good numbers against was duke with 25 att for 155 and a TD

Man he even had some pedestrian numbers against some crap teams

**** you failed so hard at making your argument here. In one post you talk about how many carries Duke was getting and then follow it up showing me stats where he carried the ball less than 20 times in all of those games except 5. So about 1/3 of the time he got less than 20 carries based on the games you picked.

Furthermore you cherrypicked games that you wanted to make your point.

Lastly, those are not bad stats, and you conveniently leave out his total yards.

I think you forget we run and slow down offense under Al which means less opportunities. He's averaging around 5 yards a game for almost all of those games except the 2013 UF and FSU games. Yet you forget he in the 2013 FSU game he got robbed of a huge breakaway run he had in which they called the play dead way too early. You also forget how nasty that UF defense was before they had all those injuries.

Stats don't lie until they do. You need to keep in mind the other circumstances around these games such as TOP, what plays were called in what situations, who we were playing, what is our gameplan. Our gameplan under Al has pretty much been putrid, conservative, and predictable. Fisch is literally the only coach that has been bearable here since Al Golden took the job and even then people had some issues with him.

Lmao he averaged about 3-4 yds a game if you do the math, love bringing coaching when he ran more and still didnt produce like other backs, how did i cherry pick games when i posted all the games lmao, and yes my point is made when i said he got a ton of carries and didnt do squat, you really failed trying to make it seem like what i posted didnt matter also like how ya added coaching into it when he got a good amount of carries against the good teams, and the what ifs you said in the FSU and UF games lmao, yoir argument is trash lmao

So we only played 14 games in 2 years? not to mention the 2012 stats where he was splitting time. That's called cherry picking. Take his entire season and he averages 6.8 ypc in 2012 and 2013 with 6.3 in 2013. Yes there are some crap teams in there.

You know when stats lie? When retards don't know how to do math. Based on the games you chose and the stats you provided, that is 6.32 yards per carry vs the 3-4 yds a game you tried to provide as a fact (yes your original post said per game, but I understand it was probably a mistake. maybe...). That is 286 attempts for 1808 yards.

Or maybe you were trying to use only the games you identified as quality games? Even then I see 172 carries for 856 yards which equals 4.97 ypc which is exactly what I said.

Who cares what he ran per game when he was barely getting carries? You want to compare him to Melvin Gordon, then lets do just that. Total carries in 2014: Melvin Gordon 343 vs Duke 242. Keep in mind Melvin Gordon had a phenomenal year and blew everyone away in ypc and yards. Duke was 16th in the country in ypc. That's pretty solid and keep in mind that we were running a slow down offense with a true freshman qb. Did you even watch the Nebraska game? I'm sure Nebraska wasn't even considering the passing game. It was play a safety very deep for Dorsett and stack everyone else in the box.

Here's some more stats for you:
-Duke was number 9 in the country in total yards for the season. The 8 rbs ahead of him all had more carries except for Devon Johnson.
-Of the 8 guys ahead of him, only 4 had a better ypc
-Of the 8 guys ahead of him only 5 were in a power 5 conference.
-Duke Johnson was 27th in the country in total carries which **** all over your theory that Duke gets the ball so much.

One more thing. Lets not forget the potential Duke brings in the receiving game which Al severely underutilized in Duke's time here. Al failed like a miserable POS at utilizing his players correctly.

I'm done fact checking for you. You lost any potential credibility you thought you had with your trying to call someone out for 3-4 ypg (hoping you meant ypc). It's obvious you just hate Duke just to hate him and are willing to throw out random numbers. As far as adding coaching into it, I don't see why that's not relevant. If you're a running back going for a contract year and I'm a coach who wants to slow the game down which means possibly 100 less carries in the season, your numbers are going to suffer and you will not be happy. Go look at my above statement on number of carries in the season. You failed as I said before and now you're just grasping.

All that and you still grasping lmao its aight dude heres to duke having a good NFL career
 
Quality opponents

147 carries 701 yards 4.76 average

That's awful lol. That's leaving off total yards .

Dude just stop , you're making yourself look bad.

Btw rb's rarely get drafted high anymore, this was the first season in awhile that rb's went in first round. So nice try again.

Lmao ur averages suck he averaged 3 an opponent but yall can keep making excuses for him lmao

What grade are you in? Did you finish middle school? Do you know basic math? says stats don't lie and then when provided true stats, he laughs it off like it's not the truth.

Sounds like an Al Golden interview. Al is that you?

He's bad at debating and math

Lmao and yet you still cant counter my point
 
2014 (quality opponents)

Vs louisville 20 att 90 yds 0 TDs
Vs NEB 18 att 93 yds 1 TD 1 fum
Vs GT 14 att 100 yds 1 TD
Vs FSU 27 att 130 yds 1 TD
Vs south carolina 24 att 132 yds 1 fum 0 TDs

2013 (quality opponents)

Vs UF 21 att 59 yds 1 TD
Vs FSU 23 att 97 yds

2014 (average-crap teams)

Vs FAMU 9 att 97 yds 1 TD
Vs Arky St 14 att 90 yds 1 TD
Vs cincy 10 att 162 yds 1 TD
Vs VT 29 att 249 yds 1 TD 1 Recieving TD
Vs UNC 19 att 177 yds 2 TDs 1 Recieving TD
Vs UVA 15 att 88 yds 1 fum
Vs Pitt 18 att 89 yds 1 Recieving TD

The only good team he had good numbers against was duke with 25 att for 155 and a TD

Man he even had some pedestrian numbers against some crap teams

**** you failed so hard at making your argument here. In one post you talk about how many carries Duke was getting and then follow it up showing me stats where he carried the ball less than 20 times in all of those games except 5. So about 1/3 of the time he got less than 20 carries based on the games you picked.

Furthermore you cherrypicked games that you wanted to make your point.

Lastly, those are not bad stats, and you conveniently leave out his total yards.

I think you forget we run and slow down offense under Al which means less opportunities. He's averaging around 5 yards a game for almost all of those games except the 2013 UF and FSU games. Yet you forget he in the 2013 FSU game he got robbed of a huge breakaway run he had in which they called the play dead way too early. You also forget how nasty that UF defense was before they had all those injuries.

Stats don't lie until they do. You need to keep in mind the other circumstances around these games such as TOP, what plays were called in what situations, who we were playing, what is our gameplan. Our gameplan under Al has pretty much been putrid, conservative, and predictable. Fisch is literally the only coach that has been bearable here since Al Golden took the job and even then people had some issues with him.

Lmao he averaged about 3-4 yds a game if you do the math, love bringing coaching when he ran more and still didnt produce like other backs, how did i cherry pick games when i posted all the games lmao, and yes my point is made when i said he got a ton of carries and didnt do squat, you really failed trying to make it seem like what i posted didnt matter also like how ya added coaching into it when he got a good amount of carries against the good teams, and the what ifs you said in the FSU and UF games lmao, yoir argument is trash lmao

So we only played 14 games in 2 years? not to mention the 2012 stats where he was splitting time. That's called cherry picking. Take his entire season and he averages 6.8 ypc in 2012 and 2013 with 6.3 in 2013. Yes there are some crap teams in there.

You know when stats lie? When retards don't know how to do math. Based on the games you chose and the stats you provided, that is 6.32 yards per carry vs the 3-4 yds a game you tried to provide as a fact (yes your original post said per game, but I understand it was probably a mistake. maybe...). That is 286 attempts for 1808 yards.

Or maybe you were trying to use only the games you identified as quality games? Even then I see 172 carries for 856 yards which equals 4.97 ypc which is exactly what I said.

Who cares what he ran per game when he was barely getting carries? You want to compare him to Melvin Gordon, then lets do just that. Total carries in 2014: Melvin Gordon 343 vs Duke 242. Keep in mind Melvin Gordon had a phenomenal year and blew everyone away in ypc and yards. Duke was 16th in the country in ypc. That's pretty solid and keep in mind that we were running a slow down offense with a true freshman qb. Did you even watch the Nebraska game? I'm sure Nebraska wasn't even considering the passing game. It was play a safety very deep for Dorsett and stack everyone else in the box.

Here's some more stats for you:
-Duke was number 9 in the country in total yards for the season. The 8 rbs ahead of him all had more carries except for Devon Johnson.
-Of the 8 guys ahead of him, only 4 had a better ypc
-Of the 8 guys ahead of him only 5 were in a power 5 conference.
-Duke Johnson was 27th in the country in total carries which **** all over your theory that Duke gets the ball so much.

One more thing. Lets not forget the potential Duke brings in the receiving game which Al severely underutilized in Duke's time here. Al failed like a miserable POS at utilizing his players correctly.

I'm done fact checking for you. You lost any potential credibility you thought you had with your trying to call someone out for 3-4 ypg (hoping you meant ypc). It's obvious you just hate Duke just to hate him and are willing to throw out random numbers. As far as adding coaching into it, I don't see why that's not relevant. If you're a running back going for a contract year and I'm a coach who wants to slow the game down which means possibly 100 less carries in the season, your numbers are going to suffer and you will not be happy. Go look at my above statement on number of carries in the season. You failed as I said before and now you're just grasping.

All that and you still grasping lmao its aight dude heres to duke having a good NFL career

That was a great breakdown and I enjoyed reading ever piece of it. I didn't realize he didn't get as many carries.
 
2014 (quality opponents)

Vs louisville 20 att 90 yds 0 TDs
Vs NEB 18 att 93 yds 1 TD 1 fum
Vs GT 14 att 100 yds 1 TD
Vs FSU 27 att 130 yds 1 TD
Vs south carolina 24 att 132 yds 1 fum 0 TDs

2013 (quality opponents)

Vs UF 21 att 59 yds 1 TD
Vs FSU 23 att 97 yds

2014 (average-crap teams)

Vs FAMU 9 att 97 yds 1 TD
Vs Arky St 14 att 90 yds 1 TD
Vs cincy 10 att 162 yds 1 TD
Vs VT 29 att 249 yds 1 TD 1 Recieving TD
Vs UNC 19 att 177 yds 2 TDs 1 Recieving TD
Vs UVA 15 att 88 yds 1 fum
Vs Pitt 18 att 89 yds 1 Recieving TD

The only good team he had good numbers against was duke with 25 att for 155 and a TD

Man he even had some pedestrian numbers against some crap teams

**** you failed so hard at making your argument here. In one post you talk about how many carries Duke was getting and then follow it up showing me stats where he carried the ball less than 20 times in all of those games except 5. So about 1/3 of the time he got less than 20 carries based on the games you picked.

Furthermore you cherrypicked games that you wanted to make your point.

Lastly, those are not bad stats, and you conveniently leave out his total yards.

I think you forget we run and slow down offense under Al which means less opportunities. He's averaging around 5 yards a game for almost all of those games except the 2013 UF and FSU games. Yet you forget he in the 2013 FSU game he got robbed of a huge breakaway run he had in which they called the play dead way too early. You also forget how nasty that UF defense was before they had all those injuries.

Stats don't lie until they do. You need to keep in mind the other circumstances around these games such as TOP, what plays were called in what situations, who we were playing, what is our gameplan. Our gameplan under Al has pretty much been putrid, conservative, and predictable. Fisch is literally the only coach that has been bearable here since Al Golden took the job and even then people had some issues with him.

Lmao he averaged about 3-4 yds a game if you do the math, love bringing coaching when he ran more and still didnt produce like other backs, how did i cherry pick games when i posted all the games lmao, and yes my point is made when i said he got a ton of carries and didnt do squat, you really failed trying to make it seem like what i posted didnt matter also like how ya added coaching into it when he got a good amount of carries against the good teams, and the what ifs you said in the FSU and UF games lmao, yoir argument is trash lmao

So we only played 14 games in 2 years? not to mention the 2012 stats where he was splitting time. That's called cherry picking. Take his entire season and he averages 6.8 ypc in 2012 and 2013 with 6.3 in 2013. Yes there are some crap teams in there.

You know when stats lie? When retards don't know how to do math. Based on the games you chose and the stats you provided, that is 6.32 yards per carry vs the 3-4 yds a game you tried to provide as a fact (yes your original post said per game, but I understand it was probably a mistake. maybe...). That is 286 attempts for 1808 yards.

Or maybe you were trying to use only the games you identified as quality games? Even then I see 172 carries for 856 yards which equals 4.97 ypc which is exactly what I said.

Who cares what he ran per game when he was barely getting carries? You want to compare him to Melvin Gordon, then lets do just that. Total carries in 2014: Melvin Gordon 343 vs Duke 242. Keep in mind Melvin Gordon had a phenomenal year and blew everyone away in ypc and yards. Duke was 16th in the country in ypc. That's pretty solid and keep in mind that we were running a slow down offense with a true freshman qb. Did you even watch the Nebraska game? I'm sure Nebraska wasn't even considering the passing game. It was play a safety very deep for Dorsett and stack everyone else in the box.

Here's some more stats for you:
-Duke was number 9 in the country in total yards for the season. The 8 rbs ahead of him all had more carries except for Devon Johnson.
-Of the 8 guys ahead of him, only 4 had a better ypc
-Of the 8 guys ahead of him only 5 were in a power 5 conference.
-Duke Johnson was 27th in the country in total carries which **** all over your theory that Duke gets the ball so much.

One more thing. Lets not forget the potential Duke brings in the receiving game which Al severely underutilized in Duke's time here. Al failed like a miserable POS at utilizing his players correctly.

I'm done fact checking for you. You lost any potential credibility you thought you had with your trying to call someone out for 3-4 ypg (hoping you meant ypc). It's obvious you just hate Duke just to hate him and are willing to throw out random numbers. As far as adding coaching into it, I don't see why that's not relevant. If you're a running back going for a contract year and I'm a coach who wants to slow the game down which means possibly 100 less carries in the season, your numbers are going to suffer and you will not be happy. Go look at my above statement on number of carries in the season. You failed as I said before and now you're just grasping.

All that and you still grasping lmao its aight dude heres to duke having a good NFL career

I'm not grasping at anything. I bolded the most important part of the entire statement just so you could find it and you come back with I'm grasping? It's alright dude. It's obvious you're just trolling now, because you got nothing to support your stance.
 
Aight i got a question are yall compraing duke to gordon and abdullah and their impact to their teams? Because thats what im doing, im talking about impact in big moments here
 
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Aight i got a question are yall compraing duke to gordon and abdullah and their impact to their teams? Because thats what im doing, im talking about impact in big moments here

Yes by all means tell us about Abdullah's impact in big games last year. We obviously don't count as a big game since we lost 7 games.
 
Duke Johnson didn't do **** at the university of miami and that's a fact. and don't give me bull**** about how he never had a chance here. that guy had a chance to end FSU's win streak last season and instead he was standing on the sidelines with a ****ing cramp. this whole program is a complete disgrace from top to bottom. was Duke a true cane? yes without a doubt and i hate to trash him but he wasn't a mcgahee. he wasn't a portis. he wasn't an edgerin james. you guys have been so brainwashed by mediocrity that you **** your pants whenever you see someone above average walk through the door

Youre an idiot for blaming one player for a loss. This is a fcking team sport not tennis. a running back is only as good as his o line. put duke johnson behind bamas o line and see what happens.
 
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Duke Johnson didn't do **** at the university of miami and that's a fact. and don't give me bull**** about how he never had a chance here. that guy had a chance to end FSU's win streak last season and instead he was standing on the sidelines with a ****ing cramp. this whole program is a complete disgrace from top to bottom. was Duke a true cane? yes without a doubt and i hate to trash him but he wasn't a mcgahee. he wasn't a portis. he wasn't an edgerin james. you guys have been so brainwashed by mediocrity that you **** your pants whenever you see someone above average walk through the door

Youre an idiot for blaming one player for a loss. This is a fcking team sport not tennis. a running back is only as good as his o line. put duke johnson behind bamas o line and see what happens.

You act like MIami doesn't have a good offensive line.

These Duke Johnson slurpers are hilarious. THey think he's Ladanian Tomlinson.

When Duke was injured vs UNC, Dallas Crawford came in and racked up almost 200 yards.

These Duke slurpers don't mention that.
 
Duke Johnson didn't do **** at the university of miami and that's a fact. and don't give me bull**** about how he never had a chance here. that guy had a chance to end FSU's win streak last season and instead he was standing on the sidelines with a ****ing cramp. this whole program is a complete disgrace from top to bottom. was Duke a true cane? yes without a doubt and i hate to trash him but he wasn't a mcgahee. he wasn't a portis. he wasn't an edgerin james. you guys have been so brainwashed by mediocrity that you **** your pants whenever you see someone above average walk through the door

Youre an idiot for blaming one player for a loss. This is a fcking team sport not tennis. a running back is only as good as his o line. put duke johnson behind bamas o line and see what happens.

You act like MIami doesn't have a good offensive line.

These Duke Johnson slurpers are hilarious. THey think he's Ladanian Tomlinson.

When Duke was injured vs UNC, Dallas Crawford came in and racked up almost 200 yards.

These Duke slurpers don't mention that.

Obviously you can't read, nobody is saying he's LT, you and the other dummy act like he's average. That's delusional , make that just stupid.

Btw, go compare Duke and Crawfords ypc and yards for the year. Not just one game , we lost a ton in explosive plays when duke went down.
 
Only our fanbase would crap on the all time leading rusher , leading rushing at a school with a great history at that position. A gut that pretty much broke it with two full years of pt. He must be good.

As for the ol, he was ok. But it got it's **** pushed in anytime we faced a legit dl. Let's not act like we had the 2001 ol. Just go watch the Wake Forest tiny dl dominate our ol , with their 250 pound dt lol.
 
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Only our fanbase would crap on the all time leading rusher , leading rushing at a school with a great history at that position. A gut that pretty much broke it with two full years of pt. He must be good.

As for the ol, he was ok. But it got it's **** pushed in anytime we faced a legit dl. Let's not act like we had the 2001 ol. Just go watch the Wake Forest tiny dl dominate our ol , with their 250 pound dt lol.

The ACC defenses are trash.

Dallas Crawford went off for 200 yards against UNC.

Vs tough defenses Duke was average. Never broke big runs. Prove me wrong.

We will have a better backfield this year with Gus and Yearby.
 
I'm not bashing duke but we had the first tackle taken in the draft and another drafted in the third so oline was at least decant. As far as duke compares to our all time best I don't think he does. Not many of our running backs were able to be featured longer then about a year because of the depth that we had. I think duke was good but not in my top 5 Miami running backs even though he's the rushing leader. Id take mcgahee, gore, portis, Anderson, edgrin James and highsmith over him. Good running back though.
 
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Miami almost beat FSU and if I recall FSU did pretty good last year. Now grow a pair and get on with it.

I hate these "we almost beat them" it shows what your true feeling of the Canes are. It also shows how much you blow FSU.

Does it bring you comfort the Miami almost beat ND in '88 or Washington in '00 or how bout the fact Miami almost beat OSU in '02?
 
Miami almost beat FSU and if I recall FSU did pretty good last year. Now grow a pair and get on with it.

I hate these "we almost beat them" it shows what your true feeling of the Canes are. It also shows how much you blow FSU.

Does it bring you comfort the Miami almost beat ND in '88 or Washington in '00 or how bout the fact Miami almost beat OSU in '02?

Ask any player, any real player it doesn't matter if u win by a point or a hundred. Winnings winning lmao
 
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