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[TedHendricksOffspring]

Duke had a good year, he was facing 8 man boxes because of a true freshmen qb. Louisville had everyone in the box all night .

I don't get the Duke bashing but the ones who seem to do it are trying to take the focus off horrible coaching .

was it horible coachcing when he had 3 costly turnovers in close games that we maanged to lose?

coaches fault, right?

after he fumbled he started to cry on the sideline. that is not a leader at all.

a leader doesn't show him sitting on the sideline not talking ot anyone and having **** poor body language.

I think DUke will be a good NFL player, but his time at MIami is severely overrated.

This bull**** argument again?

Yep. His fumble against Nebraska was why the team lost. Not the 34 points that the defense gave up and we were only in the game because of Duke's 177 yards from scrimmage in the first place. Or his fumble against Virginia that happened 6 minutes into the entire game where Virginia didn't even score on the turnover. Duke had over 100 yards from scrimmage in that game too. Did that fumble lose us the game? Was that responsible for a 30-13 *** whooping where that was the most Virginia scored in ACC play all season? Nope. Or the South Carolina game where he had 158 yards from scrimmage and, once again, the only reason we were in the game in the first place.

And you just totally made up that he cried after the fumble. He cried after Waters got his neck jammed in on the punt. The nerve of Duke to show that he cared about his friend and teammate by displaying some emotion and that didn't live up to your tool definition of leadership. The game was already packaged and done if you can pull your head out of the sand to remember. And who are you to define what a leader is? I guess the players on the team being emotional after Bryan Pata was shot showed bad leadership. Or the players crying when Malcolm Lewis broke his ankle against GT and them all having bad body language and looking like a funeral when they carted him away. Get the **** out of here.

And you all are right, stats don't lie and they back up that Duke carried the team for three years in spite of a horrible defense, a **** coaching staff, and poor QB play until this year. Calling Duke's time at Miami severely overrated when that couldn't be further from the truth makes you a pitiful excuse for a fan and desperate.

 

[poncho0091]

Duke had a good year, he was facing 8 man boxes because of a true freshmen qb. Louisville had everyone in the box all night .

I don't get the Duke bashing but the ones who seem to do it are trying to take the focus off horrible coaching .

was it horible coachcing when he had 3 costly turnovers in close games that we maanged to lose?

coaches fault, right?

after he fumbled he started to cry on the sideline. that is not a leader at all.

a leader doesn't show him sitting on the sideline not talking ot anyone and having **** poor body language.

I think DUke will be a good NFL player, but his time at MIami is severely overrated.

This bull**** argument again?

Yep. His fumble against Nebraska was why the team lost. Not the 34 points that the defense gave up and we were only in the game because of Duke's 177 yards from scrimmage in the first place. Or his fumble against Virginia that happened 6 minutes into the entire game where Virginia didn't even score on the turnover. Duke had over 100 yards from scrimmage in that game too. Did that fumble lose us the game? Was that responsible for a 30-13 *** whooping where that was the most Virginia scored in ACC play all season? Nope. Or the South Carolina game where he had 158 yards from scrimmage and, once again, the only reason we were in the game in the first place.

And you just totally made up that he cried after the fumble. He cried after Waters got his neck jammed in on the punt. The nerve of Duke to show that he cared about his friend and teammate by displaying some emotion and that didn't live up to your tool definition of leadership. The game was already packaged and done if you can pull your head out of the sand to remember. And who are you to define what a leader is? I guess the players on the team being emotional after Bryan Pata was shot showed bad leadership. Or the players crying when Malcolm Lewis broke his ankle against GT and them all having bad body language and looking like a funeral when they carted him away. Get the **** out of here.

And you all are right, stats don't lie and they back up that Duke carried the team for three years in spite of a horrible defense, a **** coaching staff, and poor QB play until this year. Calling Duke's time at Miami severely overrated when that couldn't be further from the truth makes you a pitiful excuse for a fan and desperate.

Couldn't say it any better. I feel like the Duke bashers are watching a completely different game than everyone else. Or better yet, did they miss the entire game and then walked in right when Duke fumbled basing their entire opinion based on one play?

 

[poncho0091]

Stats dont lie yall stats dont lie

Which big game didn't he have stats in last year?

2014 (quality opponents)

Vs louisville 20 att 90 yds 0 TDs
Vs NEB 18 att 93 yds 1 TD 1 fum
Vs GT 14 att 100 yds 1 TD
Vs FSU 27 att 130 yds 1 TD
Vs south carolina 24 att 132 yds 1 fum 0 TDs

2013 (quality opponents)

Vs UF 21 att 59 yds 1 TD
Vs FSU 23 att 97 yds

2014 (average-crap teams)

Vs FAMU 9 att 97 yds 1 TD
Vs Arky St 14 att 90 yds 1 TD
Vs cincy 10 att 162 yds 1 TD
Vs VT 29 att 249 yds 1 TD 1 Recieving TD
Vs UNC 19 att 177 yds 2 TDs 1 Recieving TD
Vs UVA 15 att 88 yds 1 fum
Vs Pitt 18 att 89 yds 1 Recieving TD

The only good team he had good numbers against was duke with 25 att for 155 and a TD

Man he even had some pedestrian numbers against some crap teams

**** you failed so hard at making your argument here. In one post you talk about how many carries Duke was getting and then follow it up showing me stats where he carried the ball less than 20 times in all of those games except 5. So about 1/3 of the time he got less than 20 carries based on the games you picked.

Furthermore you cherrypicked games that you wanted to make your point.

Lastly, those are not bad stats, and you conveniently leave out his total yards.

I think you forget we run and slow down offense under Al which means less opportunities. He's averaging around 5 yards a game for almost all of those games except the 2013 UF and FSU games. Yet you forget he in the 2013 FSU game he got robbed of a huge breakaway run he had in which they called the play dead way too early. You also forget how nasty that UF defense was before they had all those injuries.

Stats don't lie until they do. You need to keep in mind the other circumstances around these games such as TOP, what plays were called in what situations, who we were playing, what is our gameplan. Our gameplan under Al has pretty much been putrid, conservative, and predictable. Fisch is literally the only coach that has been bearable here since Al Golden took the job and even then people had some issues with him.

 

[Cribby]

Stats dont lie yall stats dont lie

Which big game didn't he have stats in last year?

2014 (quality opponents)

Vs louisville 20 att 90 yds 0 TDs
Vs NEB 18 att 93 yds 1 TD 1 fum
Vs GT 14 att 100 yds 1 TD
Vs FSU 27 att 130 yds 1 TD
Vs south carolina 24 att 132 yds 1 fum 0 TDs

2013 (quality opponents)

Vs UF 21 att 59 yds 1 TD
Vs FSU 23 att 97 yds

2014 (average-crap teams)

Vs FAMU 9 att 97 yds 1 TD
Vs Arky St 14 att 90 yds 1 TD
Vs cincy 10 att 162 yds 1 TD
Vs VT 29 att 249 yds 1 TD 1 Recieving TD
Vs UNC 19 att 177 yds 2 TDs 1 Recieving TD
Vs UVA 15 att 88 yds 1 fum
Vs Pitt 18 att 89 yds 1 Recieving TD

The only good team he had good numbers against was duke with 25 att for 155 and a TD

Man he even had some pedestrian numbers against some crap teams

**** you failed so hard at making your argument here. In one post you talk about how many carries Duke was getting and then follow it up showing me stats where he carried the ball less than 20 times in all of those games except 5. So about 1/3 of the time he got less than 20 carries based on the games you picked.

Furthermore you cherrypicked games that you wanted to make your point.

Lastly, those are not bad stats, and you conveniently leave out his total yards.

I think you forget we run and slow down offense under Al which means less opportunities. He's averaging around 5 yards a game for almost all of those games except the 2013 UF and FSU games. Yet you forget he in the 2013 FSU game he got robbed of a huge breakaway run he had in which they called the play dead way too early. You also forget how nasty that UF defense was before they had all those injuries.

Stats don't lie until they do. You need to keep in mind the other circumstances around these games such as TOP, what plays were called in what situations, who we were playing, what is our gameplan. Our gameplan under Al has pretty much been putrid, conservative, and predictable. Fisch is literally the only coach that has been bearable here since Al Golden took the job and even then people had some issues with him.

He left out return yards and receiving yards that were positive . I could be wrong but didn't Duke have 80- 90 yds receiving against neb?

 

[poncho0091]

Stats dont lie yall stats dont lie

Which big game didn't he have stats in last year?

2014 (quality opponents)

Vs louisville 20 att 90 yds 0 TDs
Vs NEB 18 att 93 yds 1 TD 1 fum
Vs GT 14 att 100 yds 1 TD
Vs FSU 27 att 130 yds 1 TD
Vs south carolina 24 att 132 yds 1 fum 0 TDs

2013 (quality opponents)

Vs UF 21 att 59 yds 1 TD
Vs FSU 23 att 97 yds

2014 (average-crap teams)

Vs FAMU 9 att 97 yds 1 TD
Vs Arky St 14 att 90 yds 1 TD
Vs cincy 10 att 162 yds 1 TD
Vs VT 29 att 249 yds 1 TD 1 Recieving TD
Vs UNC 19 att 177 yds 2 TDs 1 Recieving TD
Vs UVA 15 att 88 yds 1 fum
Vs Pitt 18 att 89 yds 1 Recieving TD

The only good team he had good numbers against was duke with 25 att for 155 and a TD

Man he even had some pedestrian numbers against some crap teams

**** you failed so hard at making your argument here. In one post you talk about how many carries Duke was getting and then follow it up showing me stats where he carried the ball less than 20 times in all of those games except 5. So about 1/3 of the time he got less than 20 carries based on the games you picked.

Furthermore you cherrypicked games that you wanted to make your point.

Lastly, those are not bad stats, and you conveniently leave out his total yards.

I think you forget we run and slow down offense under Al which means less opportunities. He's averaging around 5 yards a game for almost all of those games except the 2013 UF and FSU games. Yet you forget he in the 2013 FSU game he got robbed of a huge breakaway run he had in which they called the play dead way too early. You also forget how nasty that UF defense was before they had all those injuries.

Stats don't lie until they do. You need to keep in mind the other circumstances around these games such as TOP, what plays were called in what situations, who we were playing, what is our gameplan. Our gameplan under Al has pretty much been putrid, conservative, and predictable. Fisch is literally the only coach that has been bearable here since Al Golden took the job and even then people had some issues with him.

He left out return yards and receiving yards that were positive . I could be wrong but didn't Duke have 80- 90 yds receiving against neb?

obviously that would ruin his argument that Duke sucks

 

[cane since birth]

Stats dont lie yall stats dont lie

Which big game didn't he have stats in last year?

2014 (quality opponents)

Vs louisville 20 att 90 yds 0 TDs
Vs NEB 18 att 93 yds 1 TD 1 fum
Vs GT 14 att 100 yds 1 TD
Vs FSU 27 att 130 yds 1 TD
Vs south carolina 24 att 132 yds 1 fum 0 TDs

2013 (quality opponents)

Vs UF 21 att 59 yds 1 TD
Vs FSU 23 att 97 yds

2014 (average-crap teams)

Vs FAMU 9 att 97 yds 1 TD
Vs Arky St 14 att 90 yds 1 TD
Vs cincy 10 att 162 yds 1 TD
Vs VT 29 att 249 yds 1 TD 1 Recieving TD
Vs UNC 19 att 177 yds 2 TDs 1 Recieving TD
Vs UVA 15 att 88 yds 1 fum
Vs Pitt 18 att 89 yds 1 Recieving TD

The only good team he had good numbers against was duke with 25 att for 155 and a TD

Man he even had some pedestrian numbers against some crap teams

**** you failed so hard at making your argument here. In one post you talk about how many carries Duke was getting and then follow it up showing me stats where he carried the ball less than 20 times in all of those games except 5. So about 1/3 of the time he got less than 20 carries based on the games you picked.

Furthermore you cherrypicked games that you wanted to make your point.

Lastly, those are not bad stats, and you conveniently leave out his total yards.

I think you forget we run and slow down offense under Al which means less opportunities. He's averaging around 5 yards a game for almost all of those games except the 2013 UF and FSU games. Yet you forget he in the 2013 FSU game he got robbed of a huge breakaway run he had in which they called the play dead way too early. You also forget how nasty that UF defense was before they had all those injuries.

Stats don't lie until they do. You need to keep in mind the other circumstances around these games such as TOP, what plays were called in what situations, who we were playing, what is our gameplan. Our gameplan under Al has pretty much been putrid, conservative, and predictable. Fisch is literally the only coach that has been bearable here since Al Golden took the job and even then people had some issues with him.

Lmao he averaged about 3-4 yds a game if you do the math, love bringing coaching when he ran more and still didnt produce like other backs, how did i cherry pick games when i posted all the games lmao, and yes my point is made when i said he got a ton of carries and didnt do squat, you really failed trying to make it seem like what i posted didnt matter also like how ya added coaching into it when he got a good amount of carries against the good teams, and the what ifs you said in the FSU and UF games lmao, yoir argument is trash lmao

 

[cane since birth]

Yall making excuses for duke like the slurpers make excuses for golden

 

[Cribby]

Yall making excuses for duke like the slurpers make excuses for golden

Unlike Al there's data that supports duke , and teams actually want him.

Nobody wants Al

 

[cane since birth]

Yall making excuses for duke like the slurpers make excuses for golden

Unlike Al there's data that supports duke , and teams actually want him.

Nobody wants Al

Thats why duke went so high in the draft?

 

[Cribby]

Quality opponents

147 carries 701 yards 4.76 average

That's awful lol. That's leaving off total yards .

Dude just stop , you're making yourself look bad.

Btw rb's rarely get drafted high anymore, this was the first season in awhile that rb's went in first round. So nice try again.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

This guy is an entire tool box. Just do yourself and all of us a favor and stfu.

 

[imlive365]

You guys wanna know why Duke didn't do much against good teams? Cause those good teams had good coaches. They schemed for him and when our coaches make no adjustments at all he's not gonna succeed. We were ******* running the ball into 8 man fronts against UL.

 

[cane since birth]

Quality opponents

147 carries 701 yards 4.76 average

That's awful lol. That's leaving off total yards .

Dude just stop , you're making yourself look bad.

Btw rb's rarely get drafted high anymore, this was the first season in awhile that rb's went in first round. So nice try again.

Lmao ur averages suck he averaged 3 an opponent but yall can keep making excuses for him lmao

 

[imlive365]

Since when is 130 not good numbers?

 

[cane since birth]

This guy is an entire tool box. Just do yourself and all of us a favor and stfu.

I will when you do

 

[cane since birth]

Since when is 130 not good numbers?

With 27 attempts? Yall call him "elite" when he dont put up elite numbers against good teams

 

[Cribby]

Quality opponents

147 carries 701 yards 4.76 average

That's awful lol. That's leaving off total yards .

Dude just stop , you're making yourself look bad.

Btw rb's rarely get drafted high anymore, this was the first season in awhile that rb's went in first round. So nice try again.

Lmao ur averages suck he averaged 3 an opponent but yall can keep making excuses for him lmao

wtf are u talking about , three what?

Either you're a troll or the least good knowledgeable cat here. And that speaks loudly .

Kinda explains your love for Al

 

[imlive365]

Since when is 130 not good numbers?

With 27 attempts? Yall call him "elite" when he dont put up elite numbers against good teams

What would sufficient to you? 200? 250?

You do realize every team is game planning for basically him.

Our coaches do not adapt to anything. NOTHING. Teams were putting 8 guys in the box and were were still running ******* dives.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

This guy is an entire tool box. Just do yourself and all of us a favor and stfu.

I will when you do

I know you are but what am I?!

:baby_face:

 

[poncho0091]

Stats dont lie yall stats dont lie

Which big game didn't he have stats in last year?

2014 (quality opponents)

Vs louisville 20 att 90 yds 0 TDs
Vs NEB 18 att 93 yds 1 TD 1 fum
Vs GT 14 att 100 yds 1 TD
Vs FSU 27 att 130 yds 1 TD
Vs south carolina 24 att 132 yds 1 fum 0 TDs

2013 (quality opponents)

Vs UF 21 att 59 yds 1 TD
Vs FSU 23 att 97 yds

2014 (average-crap teams)

Vs FAMU 9 att 97 yds 1 TD
Vs Arky St 14 att 90 yds 1 TD
Vs cincy 10 att 162 yds 1 TD
Vs VT 29 att 249 yds 1 TD 1 Recieving TD
Vs UNC 19 att 177 yds 2 TDs 1 Recieving TD
Vs UVA 15 att 88 yds 1 fum
Vs Pitt 18 att 89 yds 1 Recieving TD

The only good team he had good numbers against was duke with 25 att for 155 and a TD

Man he even had some pedestrian numbers against some crap teams

**** you failed so hard at making your argument here. In one post you talk about how many carries Duke was getting and then follow it up showing me stats where he carried the ball less than 20 times in all of those games except 5. So about 1/3 of the time he got less than 20 carries based on the games you picked.

Furthermore you cherrypicked games that you wanted to make your point.

Lastly, those are not bad stats, and you conveniently leave out his total yards.

I think you forget we run and slow down offense under Al which means less opportunities. He's averaging around 5 yards a game for almost all of those games except the 2013 UF and FSU games. Yet you forget he in the 2013 FSU game he got robbed of a huge breakaway run he had in which they called the play dead way too early. You also forget how nasty that UF defense was before they had all those injuries.

Stats don't lie until they do. You need to keep in mind the other circumstances around these games such as TOP, what plays were called in what situations, who we were playing, what is our gameplan. Our gameplan under Al has pretty much been putrid, conservative, and predictable. Fisch is literally the only coach that has been bearable here since Al Golden took the job and even then people had some issues with him.

Lmao he averaged about 3-4 yds a game if you do the math, love bringing coaching when he ran more and still didnt produce like other backs, how did i cherry pick games when i posted all the games lmao, and yes my point is made when i said he got a ton of carries and didnt do squat, you really failed trying to make it seem like what i posted didnt matter also like how ya added coaching into it when he got a good amount of carries against the good teams, and the what ifs you said in the FSU and UF games lmao, yoir argument is trash lmao

So we only played 14 games in 2 years? not to mention the 2012 stats where he was splitting time. That's called cherry picking. Take his entire season and he averages 6.8 ypc in 2012 and 2013 with 6.3 in 2013. Yes there are some crap teams in there.

You know when stats lie? When retards don't know how to do math. Based on the games you chose and the stats you provided, that is 6.32 yards per carry vs the 3-4 yds a game you tried to provide as a fact (yes your original post said per game, but I understand it was probably a mistake. maybe...). That is 286 attempts for 1808 yards.

Or maybe you were trying to use only the games you identified as quality games? Even then I see 172 carries for 856 yards which equals 4.97 ypc which is exactly what I said.

Who cares what he ran per game when he was barely getting carries? You want to compare him to Melvin Gordon, then lets do just that. Total carries in 2014: Melvin Gordon 343 vs Duke 242. Keep in mind Melvin Gordon had a phenomenal year and blew everyone away in ypc and yards. Duke was 16th in the country in ypc. That's pretty solid and keep in mind that we were running a slow down offense with a true freshman qb. Did you even watch the Nebraska game? I'm sure Nebraska wasn't even considering the passing game. It was play a safety very deep for Dorsett and stack everyone else in the box.

Here's some more stats for you:
-Duke was number 9 in the country in total yards for the season. The 8 rbs ahead of him all had more carries except for Devon Johnson.
-Of the 8 guys ahead of him, only 4 had a better ypc
-Of the 8 guys ahead of him only 5 were in a power 5 conference.
-Duke Johnson was 27th in the country in total carries which **** all over your theory that Duke gets the ball so much.

One more thing. Lets not forget the potential Duke brings in the receiving game which Al severely underutilized in Duke's time here. Al failed like a miserable POS at utilizing his players correctly.

I'm done fact checking for you. You lost any potential credibility you thought you had with your trying to call someone out for 3-4 ypg (hoping you meant ypc). It's obvious you just hate Duke just to hate him and are willing to throw out random numbers. As far as adding coaching into it, I don't see why that's not relevant. If you're a running back going for a contract year and I'm a coach who wants to slow the game down which means possibly 100 less carries in the season, your numbers are going to suffer and you will not be happy. Go look at my above statement on number of carries in the season. You failed as I said before and now you're just grasping.