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Visions aint that Bleak! Sky Cam Review of the 10 sacks & Player Observations

blackvern said:
The first one was obvious Zion didnt know the snap, he reacted surprisingly I missed that one thats My bad the second was a corner blitz i gave that one to Trey Dean. I was just looking at the sacks and who sacked the QB if we wanna talk about pressures they were blitzing from everywhere we would be all day with that post. Zion just has to get usedto the speed of the game, He was not getting dominated like Campbell was, he will be okay
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Come on man. In response to someone saying Grennard did in fact line up against him you said no he didn't and that you watched the whole **** game. So you actually only watched the sacks. If you only watched the sacks how would you know how he actually played? Thats ten snaps out of 70+.
 
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NorthEastCane said:
Jez, we've come full circle since when we had Braxton Berrios returning punts. Everyone screamed "Get rid of him. This is Miami. We need a playmaker back there".
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Completely different. Folks wanted speed combined with his sure hands.

Ball security ALWAYS over speed.

ALWAYS.
 
@blackvern , On the deep throw that franks completed late down the seam, where was the deep safety for help, did he have anything else to hold him up?

Also on those delayed blitzes, I forgot the name of it but some defenses run it especially man heavy teams where if the running back stays in to block the guy responsible for him (usually a inside backer) now blitzes also. Usually an oline should pick him up but they didnt seem prepared for that at all. Our Center got beat by that a couple times.
 
Donaldson is the best o-linemen. I didn't see him get beat at all. Its clear guard is his best position.
 
Ammok said:
Your ilk
comes from the inability of people to recognize their lack of ability. Without the self-awareness of metacognition, people cannot objectively evaluate their competence or incompetence

:)
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Projection is a psychological defense mechanism in which individuals attribute characteristics they find unacceptable in themselves to another person.

You take care.
 
Visions are not bleak from me, brother...but this is worrisome.

Miami takes the lead in the fourth quarter...IMMEDIATELY gets a turnover...DEEP in Florida territory...is having success with DeeJay Dallas and Cam'Ron Harris...go for it on 4th down, successful despite the two penalties...Miami ball still DEEP in the red zone. 1st down, roll out short throw to Mallory, incomplete...then they get cute with Martell in a wildcat (not bad for the red zone tbh) 2 yd gain with trickeration....next play, throw to the endzone, Jeff Thomas drops a ball for a surefire touchdown...missed FG.

This is like the holy trinity of Miami football on offense over the past decade.

Lack of commitment to the run game.
Getting cute in the red zone leading to no touchdown in the red zone.
Special teams struggles leading to no points in the red zone.
 
MISTER OWL said:
If you are not trolling, you should go back and watch. Zion is late getting up from the second snap of game. Not hating on the kid, but he could do a lot better if he got up out of stance when he is supposed to.

And I’m not giving it up to anyone beating a true freshman OT that is a second and a half late getting out of his stance.
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I think what Vern is saying is that Zion is late because Zuniga times it perfectly
 
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Empirical Cane said:
Completely different. Folks wanted speed combined with his sure hands.

Ball security ALWAYS over speed.

ALWAYS.
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I hear ya. I was just being a little facetious. I'm surfing around doing my best trying to find a football thread and it ain't easy today.

As an aside, combined speed and sure hands is not as easy to find. There are not many Devin Hestors and Phil Buchanons out there are people.
 
skyman said:
@blackvern , On the deep throw that franks completed late down the seam, where was the deep safety for help, did he have anything else to hold him up?

Also on those delayed blitzes, I forgot the name of it but some defenses run it especially man heavy teams where if the running back stays in to block the guy responsible for him (usually a inside backer) now blitzes also. Usually an oline should pick him up but they didnt seem prepared for that at all. Our Center got beat by that a couple times.
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He was playing the other side which made no sense yes that was his fault he was positioned wrong, dont know if he was trying to help blades or not but blades had grime son lockdown the entire night
 
Don’t call for it people lol vern is a nole and this is a trap. I promise you he absolutely loved us taking the loss last night. He will be screaming in two weeks for unc. 🚨🚨🚨huge nole fan and troll folks.... fool me once, shame on me. I’ll screenshot this and post it when he stirs the pot so recruits that read the boards go elsewhere
 
CANE1775 said:
Come on man. In response to someone saying Grennard did in fact line up against him you said no he didn't and that you watched the whole **** game. So you actually only watched the sacks. If you only watched the sacks how would you know how he actually played? Thats ten snaps out of 70+.
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On SkyCam there is no announcing so you only see the guys get up after the play...skycam focused on the guys who got the sacks Greenard caused disruption on those plays but didnt get the sacks on Zion. Thats how i missed it. For example on the sack that greenard cause the skycam only showed the guy who got up, I probably thiught Greenard was Zuniga. But on the second sack calling PA pass with true freshman tackles was a bad move especially when we werent running like that. I fault Enos on that not Zion..
 
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BoxingRobes said:
Visions are not bleak from me, brother...but this is worrisome.

Miami takes the lead in the fourth quarter...IMMEDIATELY gets a turnover...DEEP in Florida territory...is having success with DeeJay Dallas and Cam'Ron Harris...go for it on 4th down, successful despite the two penalties...Miami ball still DEEP in the red zone. 1st down, roll out short throw to Mallory, incomplete...then they get cute with Martell in a wildcat (not bad for the red zone tbh) 2 yd gain with trickeration....next play, throw to the endzone, Jeff Thomas drops a ball for a surefire touchdown...missed FG.

This is like the holy trinity of Miami football on offense over the past decade.

Lack of commitment to the run game.
Getting cute in the red zone leading to no touchdown in the red zone.
Special teams struggles leading to no points in the red zone.
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I feel like Vern's post focused more on our players are going to end up alright. The play calling though is an entirely different matter.
 
Ammok said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect
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And? I honestly do see more reasons for optimism than pessimism. That is not implying a higher level of cognitive ability. Should Jimmy Johnson or some other respected football genius come out and say the Canes suck I will happily admit my error in optimism.

It's the first game. Are you suggesting we fire all coaching staffs who don't dominate their first game?

Perhaps you should work harder on your reading comprehension or maybe try not to use psychological terms as a dunk when you're not fully aware of their meanings.

Meanwhile, I'll happily root for my beloved Canes to win while you root for them to lose so you can be "right".
 
blackvern said:
Rewatched the game this morning on Xfinity SkyCam to get another POV of Jarren and the offensive line and the game.

Offense:

- 1st Sack slow developing PA pass Jarren had no hope bad play call
-2nd sack delayed LB blitz where there were no hot reads everybody went long there was nothing that Jarren could do, he played it safe and took the sack
- Jarren under pressure from a blitz again hits Jordan right in the hands and he drops it on 3rd and 5 wouldve been a first down.
-3rd sack from a CB blitz on a slow developing play action pass no chance.
-4th sack on a delayed blitz by LB Play was designed to go deep to Mallory, Outcoached long developing play and perfect defensive play call.
-5th sack on a QB option play i dont know WTF that was
-6th and 7th sack nobody was open held the ball
-8th sack Zion beat by Zuniga there was absolutely no one open, best decision wouldve been to take off running
-9th sack he rolled away from immense pressure after a blitz got outside the pocket and froze he fumbled
-10th sack Zuniga read the snap count had a head start beat Zion you have to give it to a great player making a great play right there


Some Offensive LIneman Player Evals
- Zion actually played decent until last drives in 4th quarter and thats all we remember. I think it was a combination of him wearing down, and Zuniga pinnin his ears back and learning the snap count. I repeat go look at the tape Zion handled Moon. Zuniga played everywhere and was only one who beat Zion.
- Campbell on the other hand aint ready @Liberty City El I was holding out hope but he is not ready. I'd give him a few more games to see what happens but we might have to put Scaife out there . Campbell did recover Osbournes fumble on the 4th his best play of the day
-Scaife was a ******* beast out there he man handled Zuniga and everybody whom we went against easily our best lineman.
-Gaynor played decent untill that last snap!!



Key Points
*To be honest a lot of those sacks where he held the ball no one was open Jarren was holding the ball trying to keep the play alive to see if something pops open, he didnt wanna throw it away in the pocket or make a dangerous throw because it was obvious he was coached to not lose the game, but You have to give it to Floridas defense. On the blitzes Jarren needs to recognize them and know where to go we know he can do it (as on the TD pass to Brevin) The delayed blitzes are what really confused him which can only get better with experience. , he was trying to make a play he will learn

*Zuniga and the D Line were slanting inside all night and destroyed a lot of our run plays, more running plays should have been called to the outside Grantham outcoached Enos in that sense.

* I feel we should have made JT4 a bigger part of the game, why we are running reverses to Osborne instead of him I have no idea.

* Our running backs are very good not elite in space. Im hoping Lingard will change that when he returns against N. Carolina

* Please somebody tell me why we ran the read Option with Tate in the Red Zone when Dallas was killing it??

*Bunch formation sets are a night mare against blitzing DB's bad coaching decision by Enos

*Zion will be fine, Campbell on the other hand

Defense

-A lot of plays where we only rushed 3, the porsters on here obviously couldnt see we were more worried about Franks running then throwing the times we pinned our ears back we got to him and pressured him. He's big and strong and broke the tackles of two sacks. Shaq looks faster as he did the beginning of the year last year he ran down perrine on a few screens.

- Secondary looked good Frierson played awsome. Blades and Hall need to work on their tackling Hall and blades both missed a few. A. Carter played awesome. I see why he started over D. Smith. he can run.

- D Line looked the best against the run as long as I can remember. Ford was unblockable and Bethel played great.
- Rousseau and Hill need to get more PT they caused pressures
- Patchan was solid and recovered a FF
- Jimmy Murphy was haulin *** on KR

In conclusion,

I cant remember a time where we held down an offense of UF's caliber on the road. Although we didnt deserve to win the game we were a muffed punt , a missed FG and dropped td away from winning the game. Both teams were penalized heavily. I think Enos got outcoached by Grantham it happens,but I cant lie im a little worried about it. I will give Enos the benefit of the doubt we were on thorad first start for a freshman QB and two freshman tackles. Their blitzes confused us all night. He went away from motion and crossing routes, guys just were not open and its easy to see on SkyCam. A great team wins that game a good team loses them. Sucks but we couldve won this game. We arent great but these next 3 months will show how good we are.
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Agree or disagree, Major Applewhite with spread offense would have been preferable to Enos pro-style
 
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