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Visions aint that Bleak! Sky Cam Review of the 10 sacks & Player Observations

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brock said:
This can still be a great team and probably already is but we aren’t good enough to overcome 10 sacks in a game as well as a litany of penalty issues, dropped tds late, missed fgs, dropped punt return and other things. No one is...

What I likeD the most of the most part this kid fought for sure, they didn’t just lay down like they did vs Wisconsin and LSU last year. We had a legitimate chance at winning even with all the stuff not going our way. Let’s see what happens and specifically what improvements are made. That was the best overall team in terms of talent on both sides of the ball we will see all year until Clemson if we make it there and we stood toe to toe with them and probably should have won that game
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With a completely new OL this can be a good team.
 
blackvern said:
Rewatched the game this morning on Xfinity SkyCam to get another POV of Jarren and the offensive line and the game.

Offense:

- 1st Sack slow developing PA pass Jarren had no hope bad play call
-2nd sack delayed LB blitz where there were no hot reads everybody went long there was nothing that Jarren could do, he played it safe and took the sack
- Jarren under pressure from a blitz again hits Jordan right in the hands and he drops it on 3rd and 5 wouldve been a first down.
-3rd sack from a CB blitz on a slow developing play action pass no chance.
-4th sack on a delayed blitz by LB Play was designed to go deep to Mallory, Outcoached long developing play and perfect defensive play call.
-5th sack on a QB option play i dont know WTF that was
-6th and 7th sack nobody was open held the ball
-8th sack Zion beat by Zuniga there was absolutely no one open, best decision wouldve been to take off running
-9th sack he rolled away from immense pressure after a blitz got outside the pocket and froze he fumbled
-10th sack Zuniga read the snap count had a head start beat Zion you have to give it to a great player making a great play right there


Some Offensive LIneman Player Evals
- Zion actually played decent until last drives in 4th quarter and thats all we remember. I think it was a combination of him wearing down, and Zuniga pinnin his ears back and learning the snap count. I repeat go look at the tape Zion handled Moon. Zuniga played everywhere and was only one who beat Zion.
- Campbell on the other hand aint ready @Liberty City El I was holding out hope but he is not ready. I'd give him a few more games to see what happens but we might have to put Scaife out there . Campbell did recover Osbournes fumble on the 4th his best play of the day
-Scaife was a ******* beast out there he man handled Zuniga and everybody whom we went against easily our best lineman.
-Gaynor played decent untill that last snap!!



Key Points
*To be honest a lot of those sacks where he held the ball no one was open Jarren was holding the ball trying to keep the play alive to see if something pops open, he didnt wanna throw it away in the pocket or make a dangerous throw because it was obvious he was coached to not lose the game, but You have to give it to Floridas defense. On the blitzes Jarren needs to recognize them and know where to go we know he can do it (as on the TD pass to Brevin) The delayed blitzes are what really confused him which can only get better with experience. , he was trying to make a play he will learn

*Zuniga and the D Line were slanting inside all night and destroyed a lot of our run plays, more running plays should have been called to the outside Grantham outcoached Enos in that sense.

* I feel we should have made JT4 a bigger part of the game, why we are running reverses to Osborne instead of him I have no idea.

* Our running backs are very good not elite in space. Im hoping Lingard will change that when he returns against N. Carolina

* Please somebody tell me why we ran the read Option with Tate in the Red Zone when Dallas was killing it??

*Bunch formation sets are a night mare against blitzing DB's bad coaching decision by Enos

*Zion will be fine, Campbell on the other hand

Defense

-A lot of plays where we only rushed 3, the porsters on here obviously couldnt see we were more worried about Franks running then throwing the times we pinned our ears back we got to him and pressured him. He's big and strong and broke the tackles of two sacks. Shaq looks faster as he did the beginning of the year last year he ran down perrine on a few screens.

- Secondary looked good Frierson played awsome. Blades and Hall need to work on their tackling Hall and blades both missed a few. A. Carter played awesome. I see why he started over D. Smith. he can run.

- D Line looked the best against the run as long as I can remember. Ford was unblockable and Bethel played great.
- Rousseau and Hill need to get more PT they caused pressures
- Patchan was solid and recovered a FF
- Jimmy Murphy was haulin *** on KR

In conclusion,

I cant remember a time where we held down an offense of UF's caliber on the road. Although we didnt deserve to win the game we were a muffed punt , a missed FG and dropped td away from winning the game. Both teams were penalized heavily. I think Enos got outcoached by Grantham it happens,but I cant lie im a little worried about it. I will give Enos the benefit of the doubt we were on thorad first start for a freshman QB and two freshman tackles. Their blitzes confused us all night. He went away from motion and crossing routes, guys just were not open and its easy to see on SkyCam. A great team wins that game a good team loses them. Sucks but we couldve won this game. We arent great but these next 3 months will show how good we are.
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Haven’t rewatched the game but from watching live last night with a good overhead full field view I agree with basically everything you said. Great post
 
Empirical Cane said:
BVern...I always give you respect.

Agree on everything above, except OL.

From LT to RT...complete and utter trash more consistently than even average play.

I'd take a OL made up of SoFL HS senior all-star lineman than what was on field last night. They couldn't have done worse.

Punting game showed big improvement (considering how bad it was last year). Louie Louie's aussie experience saved a REALLY BAD result on his first kick. Likely tipped/blocked with a traditional punter back there.

No more JT on kickoffs/PR. I've seen enough.

Trade off his "eliteness" (I just threw up in my mouth) with who ever has the best hands and can run.

Mark this down...until proven otherwise, JT is more of a liability in return gane than any chance of "game breaking" play.

******* BOOK IT.
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Jez, we've come full circle since when we had Braxton Berrios returning punts. Everyone screamed "Get rid of him. This is Miami. We need a playmaker back there".
 
JgDaCane said:
I can’t beleive nobody gets this. You may as well put a linemen at WR if you’re putting Martell there. By putting Pope or Hightower in its an extra real target. Very simple idk whats so hard to understand.
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That's not my point. We could put Jerry Rice in there but if we can't get him the ball what difference does it make. Also, someone else mentioned in another thread that on one play Martell was wide open and could have walked in for a TD but it was on a play when Williams was pressured and I believed sacked.
 
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Vern, i havent watched the 2nd half, but i just posted two examples in the first half where GRENNARD flat out blew by Nelson after you saying that he never even lined up opposite him. Man what in the world were you rewatching?
 
There were a lot of mistakes that wouldn't have mattered against a Bethune Cookman/FAMU-type team, but they do against P5 teams. With all the mistakes made, it still took a muffed punt AND a missed chip shot of a field goal for Florida to win. If either of those doesn't happen, Miami wins an ugly game. Personally, I'd be more worried if I was Florida right now. Franks is not good. He had a WR screen for a long TD and the one bomb for 65 yards, and not much else.
 
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CANE1775 said:
2nd quarter 4:50 on the clock goes right by Nelson. Come on man.
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CANE1775 said:
Vern, i havent watched the 2nd half, but i just posted two examples in the first half where GRENNARD flat out blew by Nelson after you saying that he never even lined up opposite him. Man what in the world were you rewatching?
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The first one was obvious Zion didnt know the snap, he reacted surprisingly I missed that one Ill take the L, thats My bad the second was a corner blitz i gave that one to Trey Dean. I was just looking at the sacks and who sacked the QB if we wanna talk about pressures they were blitzing from everywhere we would be all day with that post. Zion just has to get use to the speed of the game, He was not getting dominated like Campbell was, he will be okay.
 
Ammok said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wishful_thinking
Studies have consistently shown that holding all else equal, subjects will predict positive outcomes to be more likely than negative outcomes

A much more pertinent one for your ilk though https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

It's ok for your ilk to never comprehend. :)
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Please reread my post. Nowhere do I make any claims about positive outcomes, thereby negating your argument about wishful thinking. Likewise, i would have had to make claims involving some kind of knowledge to in any way suffer from Dunning-Kruger.

I referred to you as a clown, which is both your avatar and my opinion of you.

One last thing. I notice you're fond of the term "ilk". I see more reasons for optimism than pessimism. If my "ilk" is rational people who don't overreact and understand that no team can go from 7-6 to national champs in a year, then I'll happily be included in that group. But you and your ilk,the festering vaginas who think the sky is falling because we didn't win by 150 points, will still be Idiots.
 
blackvern said:
In conclusion,

I cant remember a time where we held down an offense of UF's caliber on the road. Although we didnt deserve to win the game we were a muffed punt , a missed FG and dropped td away from winning the game. Both teams were penalized heavily. I think Enos got outcoached by Grantham it happens,but I cant lie im a little worried about it. I will give Enos the benefit of the doubt we were on thorad first start for a freshman QB and two freshman tackles. Their blitzes confused us all night. He went away from motion and crossing routes, guys just were not open and its easy to see on SkyCam. A great team wins that game a good team loses them. Sucks but we couldve won this game. We arent great but these next 3 months will show how good we are.
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You were doing so well, then the Seminole in you came out. You couldn't help yourself.
 
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