UM doesn't treat CFB like a business

I think this is used as an excuse far too often. I'm not expecting UM to spend money like Bama and OSU. The expectation the fan base should have is that the program maximize the potential of the program by running it appropriately. Nobody can successfully argue that it's being run in a manner to support sustainable success.

If you think it's used as an excuse:

1) You're an absolute moron, and
2) You know absolutely nothing about the University of Miami.
 
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Why does everyone think Manny calling plays on defense is somehow going to hinder him? There are plenty of P5 coaches that call their own plays on offense and no one says anything about them
 
UM isn't serious about football. They don't have legitimate buy-in from the people who matter. The President isn't interested, the AD is unequivocally impotent, and the BoT is rudderless. Manny plays whack-a-mole when trying to solve problems. He doesn't have the infrastructure in place to support his inexperience or to allow for sustainable growth, and he doesn't have processes in place to build efficiency, consistency, and success. If there was ever a program that needed an outside consultant, it's this one. There's no adult in the room.

The news of Manny demoting himself back to play-calling duties is the perfect microcosm of the bigger problem facing the program. More than ever, Manny needed to step into his role as head coach and own it. He needed to have his fingerprints on the offense, defense, special teams, analysts, everyone's responsibilities, flow of communication between analysts, coaches, and himself in practice and in games, with data analytics, investment into behavioral science for the players and coaches, S&C, nutrition, and the reestablishment of clear targets for the program. Instead, he's positioned himself, by his own design, into a position which will limit his growth as a head coach. In this sort of scenario, Blake James should have stepped up and stopped it from happening. In fact, it never should have even been an option, but the problem is that the infrastructure isn't in place to prevent this.

It's not about the TRob hire, the Jess Simpson hire, or even Manny making the absurd move to resume play-calling duties. It's not about Manny putting his *** on the line by calling the defense, or trying to get rid of Manny or Blake. It's about whether UM has organized itself, created the right infrastructure, implemented the right processes, set the right targets, to maximize its potential as a program. That's what good programs, businesses, do to create success.

Great take - hit the nail on the head. The best teams are ruthless about running their program. The don't worry about people's feelings, all they care about is winning. You see it on the field - Bama is a professional football organization. Those kids get it, they are there to play football, win championships and go to the NFL. Not dance around with rings and chains and be fake tough guys.
 
If you think it's used as an excuse:

1) You're an absolute moron, and
2) You know absolutely nothing about the University of Miami.

If you understood, even at a pedestrian level, how successful businesses are run, then you'd understand the analysis. It's clear you what your threshold is though because you didn't get it. Maybe it's not your fault just like it's not Manny's.
 
Idk. Something tells me if Steele didn't take the Tennessee job CMD would've hired him as DC/LB coach, Baker would've been gone, and we'd all been calling CMD K1NG of the offseason and interest would've been as high as it was when we transitioned to the spread under Lashlee. Manny is just buying himself another year without having to make a rushed DC decision...Manny running the DEF full time isn't the long term play here, it's a one year handshake deal between him and UMs power brokers.....landing Steele had a certain $$$ on it and although a very respectable $$$ amount Steele instead opted to go to Tenn where there's a high probability that the HC job will be opening very soon....so once that happened with that same amount of $$$ left to obtain a DC there wasn't a guy out there at that pay range and Manny knew he couldn't get this one wrong so "it appears" an agreement was reached to take over the DEF/LBs himself, make Baker his asst, and if the progress continues from 6-7 to 8-3 to say 10-3 + bowl game outcome then Manny/Power Brokers let Baker's deal come off the books and we ADD Bakers salary to our DC salary pool which would now make us that much more of an attractive destination considering the upward trajectory of the program and the increased salary.

Simply put....this is a 1yr deal and I think it works out. Wasn't high on it when news first dropped but after taking a step back and trying to figure out "why the heck....etc" it makes sense now. UMs power brokers are slowly beginning to open that checkbook, proof is the TRob hiring and then DVD being paid as a CB coach just to be an asst Secondary coach which is BIG for our DB/CB room recruiting wise. As good as Stroud is the DL hire of Simpson is an upgrade as he will hone in on gap integrity and setting the edge, two things that KILLED US LAST YEAR.

If we can still land a portal CB (certain individual we all have in mind) then I will say while Manny didn't crush the offseason, he definitely would have significantly improved our football team coming into the 2021 season.

Good take. If this is a 1-year stop gap, it does change the conversation to a degree. There are other elements that still require remedy, but at least Manny's giving himself a chance.
 
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This would require a modicum of thought at somewhere near the second-grade level, which CIS is collectively completely incapable of.
So if understood correctly, you're addressing financial limitations. But there are other alumni who say there's plenty of money to make quality hires. They contend it's the type of applicant Manny is bringing in. That though the university has money to hire more experienced coordinators/coaches, Manny's in some cases has brought forth lower-profile candidates that aren't deserving of top dollar. They say that though there's plenty of money, UM won't overpay under-qualified coaches.
Would love for some alums to get in here and discuss this, as well as how the higher-ups view what went down yesterday.
 
The ACC has 100% revenue sharing. So as long as the TV contract continues and as long as Clemson gets into the playoff every year, the ACC schools will continue to do well financially.

In the current ACC model, they only need ONE dominant program. From a financial perspective, the last thing the ACC wants is a 9-3 UM team beating an undefeated Clemson in the ACC title game, giving the ACC no playoff teams.

The best hope is for Nick Sabin to retire, have Dabo Sweeney take the Bama job and the ACC overlords choose to allow UM to be the dominant football program for a while. ****, we might even start getting some calls from the ACC refs at that point. hahaha
 
Let me know the day UM fans and alum are willing to cough up massive dollars to support football and that's the day the University of Miami will "get serious" about it.

Georgia's $200,000,000+ investment mostly came from alumni-driven dollars.

https://www.espn.com/college-footba...inside-georgia-200-million-quest-take-alabama

Miami fans are running GoFundMe campaigns to raise $500 to fly a banner over the stadium when they're mad at the coach.

College football has changed. A private university with 10,000 undergrads—and fan base mostly made up of non-alum who don't write checks—not exactly a recipe for success.

Miami is going to need to find a way to succeed by overcoming tremendous odds moving forward—starting with a liberal university (that isn't football-minded), an egotistical BoT (who sticks with an in-over-his-head, not-football-driven AD because he's a good "fundraiser") and a hands-off president who isn't athletics-driven either (allowing the BoT to call the shots.)

Hardly a recipe for championship-level success.
 
UM isn't serious about football. They don't have legitimate buy-in from the people who matter. The President isn't interested, the AD is unequivocally impotent, and the BoT is rudderless. Manny plays whack-a-mole when trying to solve problems. He doesn't have the infrastructure in place to support his inexperience or to allow for sustainable growth, and he doesn't have processes in place to build efficiency, consistency, and success. If there was ever a program that needed an outside consultant, it's this one. There's no adult in the room.

The news of Manny demoting himself back to play-calling duties is the perfect microcosm of the bigger problem facing the program. More than ever, Manny needed to step into his role as head coach and own it. He needed to have his fingerprints on the offense, defense, special teams, analysts, everyone's responsibilities, flow of communication between analysts, coaches, and himself in practice and in games, with data analytics, investment into behavioral science for the players and coaches, S&C, nutrition, and the reestablishment of clear targets for the program. Instead, he's positioned himself, by his own design, into a position which will limit his growth as a head coach. In this sort of scenario, Blake James should have stepped up and stopped it from happening. In fact, it never should have even been an option, but the problem is that the infrastructure isn't in place to prevent this.

It's not about the TRob hire, the Jess Simpson hire, or even Manny making the absurd move to resume play-calling duties. It's not about Manny putting his *** on the line by calling the defense, or trying to get rid of Manny or Blake. It's about whether UM has organized itself, created the right infrastructure, implemented the right processes, set the right targets, to maximize its potential as a program. That's what good programs, businesses, do to create success.
More mandatory reading for you @ssvir and @CashMoneyCane . Again, learn something sportos! Put the super fan/Hecht men shtick aside and enter into reality.
 
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Let me know the day UM fans and alum are willing to cough up massive dollars to support football and that's the day the University of Miami will "get serious" about it.

Georgia's $200,000,000+ investment mostly came from alumni-driven dollars.

https://www.espn.com/college-footba...inside-georgia-200-million-quest-take-alabama

Miami fans are running GoFundMe campaigns to raise $500 to fly a banner over the stadium when they're mad at the coach.

College football has changed. A private university with 10,000 undergrads—and fan base mostly made up of non-alum who don't write checks—not exactly a recipe for success.

Miami is going to need to find a way to succeed by overcoming tremendous odds moving forward—starting with a liberal university (that isn't football-minded), an egotistical BoT (who sticks with an in-over-his-head, not-football-driven AD because he's a good "fundraiser") and a hands-off president who isn't athletics-driven either (allowing the BoT to call the shots.)

Hardly a recipe for championship-level success.


The contention isn't as much financial. It's more operational. Would you argue that the program is maximizing its potential under the current budget? No, because it's not. The decision-making serves as evidence. Every reasonable Canes fan knows that.

The financial question would be what sort of operational expenditure would it take to enhance operations to maximize Manny's ROI. I think we'd find that the number is a fraction of what some believe it to be.

Lastly, from a behavioral science standpoint, what does the program need to do to optimize Manny? What sort of a structure does he need? When you hire a coach with no head coaching background, the odds are he's going to require the right structure to be successful and time unless he's a total savant.

On the other hand, I completely agree that Miami doesn't have the same ability to raise it's capital expenditures to compete with the public universities, but the expenditures are good enough to currently to win the Coastal and compete in the ACC.
 
UM isn't serious about football. They don't have legitimate buy-in from the people who matter. The President isn't interested, the AD is unequivocally impotent, and the BoT is rudderless. Manny plays whack-a-mole when trying to solve problems. He doesn't have the infrastructure in place to support his inexperience or to allow for sustainable growth, and he doesn't have processes in place to build efficiency, consistency, and success. If there was ever a program that needed an outside consultant, it's this one. There's no adult in the room.

The news of Manny demoting himself back to play-calling duties is the perfect microcosm of the bigger problem facing the program. More than ever, Manny needed to step into his role as head coach and own it. He needed to have his fingerprints on the offense, defense, special teams, analysts, everyone's responsibilities, flow of communication between analysts, coaches, and himself in practice and in games, with data analytics, investment into behavioral science for the players and coaches, S&C, nutrition, and the reestablishment of clear targets for the program. Instead, he's positioned himself, by his own design, into a position which will limit his growth as a head coach. In this sort of scenario, Blake James should have stepped up and stopped it from happening. In fact, it never should have even been an option, but the problem is that the infrastructure isn't in place to prevent this.

It's not about the TRob hire, the Jess Simpson hire, or even Manny making the absurd move to resume play-calling duties. It's not about Manny putting his *** on the line by calling the defense, or trying to get rid of Manny or Blake. It's about whether UM has organized itself, created the right infrastructure, implemented the right processes, set the right targets, to maximize its potential as a program. That's what good programs, businesses, do to create success.
preach bro
 
Do you have a degree or professional experience in business operations management?

I'd say they treat it very much like a business, seeking return on investment without making massive capital outlays they can't afford for minimal assurance of actual ROI.
 
The contention isn't as much financial. It's more operational. Would you argue that the program is maximizing its potential under the current budget? No, because it's not. The decision-making serves as evidence. Every reasonable Canes fan knows that.

The financial question would be what sort of operational expenditure would it take to enhance operations to maximize Manny's ROI. I think we'd find that the number is a fraction of what some believe it to be.

Lastly, from a behavioral science standpoint, what does the program need to do to optimize Manny? What sort of a structure does he need? When you hire a coach with no head coaching background, the odds are he's going to require the right structure to be successful and time unless he's a total savant.

On the other hand, I completely agree that Miami doesn't have the same ability to raise it's capital expenditures to compete with the public universities, but the expenditures are good enough to currently to win the Coastal and compete in the ACC.

Finance determines operations.

Please stop talking about business as if you understand it. Specifically, university finance. I seriously doubt you know the slightest thing about non-profit finance.
 
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If you understood, even at a pedestrian level, how successful businesses are run, then you'd understand the analysis. It's clear you what your threshold is though because you didn't get it. Maybe it's not your fault just like it's not Manny's.

I was in business management at J.P. Morgan by the time I was 26. Maybe you've heard of them?

Would you like to discuss with me your experience in successful businesses?
 
More mandatory reading for you @ssvir and @CashMoneyCane . Again, learn something sportos! Put the super fan/Hecht men shtick aside and enter into reality.

LMAO just because this dude knows what he's talking about a lot more than your sorry *** doesn't mean he has anywhere near as much understanding as I do sweetheart.

You're all just little children screaming about how you want to eat cookies for every meal.
 
Let me know the day UM fans and alum are willing to cough up massive dollars to support football and that's the day the University of Miami will "get serious" about it.

Georgia's $200,000,000+ investment mostly came from alumni-driven dollars.

https://www.espn.com/college-footba...inside-georgia-200-million-quest-take-alabama

Miami fans are running GoFundMe campaigns to raise $500 to fly a banner over the stadium when they're mad at the coach.

College football has changed. A private university with 10,000 undergrads—and fan base mostly made up of non-alum who don't write checks—not exactly a recipe for success.

Miami is going to need to find a way to succeed by overcoming tremendous odds moving forward—starting with a liberal university (that isn't football-minded), an egotistical BoT (who sticks with an in-over-his-head, not-football-driven AD because he's a good "fundraiser") and a hands-off president who isn't athletics-driven either (allowing the BoT to call the shots.)

Hardly a recipe for championship-level success.

Yup. Everything about this is correct, despite the fact morons like @NicKane and @wushah don't want to believe it.

I'll also add, we have one of the most international alumni bases of any major university, and they by and large don't give a rat's *** about football.
 
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You inadvertently proved the point that every makes. If Liberty can do it, why can’t Miami? All it takes is hiring the right coach, which Miami has proven it can’t do.
You forgot to mention and not playing real competition
 
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