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I believe he's all cane that said I jus hope we dont start bashing this kid because that's something stuckey alluded to into why he left even though we know its grades this doesn't seem legit to me but I maybe wrong
 
PUNCICANE said:
JHallCanes said:
Could be the most important recruit in the class but....


Can you blame him?
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**** yeah you can blame him! We would be a different D with the likes of him and Moten at DT, Jackson & Thomas at DE, and Owens, Fig, Young, Smith and Grace at LB.

and chill with the scheme talk. You put top talent and they'll make D'onfrio look like he's all of a sudden figured it out. UF was the best D in the nation until they lost Easley and a couple other studs, then they had Missouri and every other team marching up and down the field on them
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I didn't say **** about scheme. Actually I'm the one yesterday that said I was tired of the bull**** talk.

Right here: http://www.canesinsight.com/threads/59280-JC-on-Rivals?p=1683680&viewfull=1#post1683680

What I am saying is can you blame him for looking around? We have to go above and beyond to beat out the SEC for top flight DT's and we haven't shown it yet.

The **** is wrong with being completely logical?
 
mlw352 said:
I believe he's all cane that said I jus hope we dont start bashing this kid because that's something stuckey alluded to into why he left even though we know its grades this doesn't seem legit to me but I maybe wrong
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Nobody ever bashed Stuckey. He left because he couldn't qualify at Miami. He even tweeted that "He bets he qualifies for Auburn lol" Or something of the sort.

If Valentine leaves it'll because of the ****** product we've been putting on the field.
 
JHallCanes said:
PUNCICANE said:
JHallCanes said:
Could be the most important recruit in the class but....


Can you blame him?
Click to expand...

**** yeah you can blame him! We would be a different D with the likes of him and Moten at DT, Jackson & Thomas at DE, and Owens, Fig, Young, Smith and Grace at LB.

and chill with the scheme talk. You put top talent and they'll make D'onfrio look like he's all of a sudden figured it out. UF was the best D in the nation until they lost Easley and a couple other studs, then they had Missouri and every other team marching up and down the field on them
Click to expand...

I didn't say **** about scheme. Actually I'm the one yesterday that said I was tired of the bull**** talk.

Right here: http://www.canesinsight.com/threads/59280-JC-on-Rivals?p=1683680&viewfull=1#post1683680

What I am saying is can you blame him for looking around? We have to go above and beyond to beat out the SEC for top flight DT's and we haven't shown it yet.

The **** is wrong with being completely logical?
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What was my whole thing before the season?

Win and they will come.

Well goddammit we're not doing our part! This **** is so frustrating.
 
RiDLer80 said:
JHallCanes said:
PUNCICANE said:
JHallCanes said:
Could be the most important recruit in the class but....


Can you blame him?
Click to expand...

**** yeah you can blame him! We would be a different D with the likes of him and Moten at DT, Jackson & Thomas at DE, and Owens, Fig, Young, Smith and Grace at LB.

and chill with the scheme talk. You put top talent and they'll make D'onfrio look like he's all of a sudden figured it out. UF was the best D in the nation until they lost Easley and a couple other studs, then they had Missouri and every other team marching up and down the field on them
Click to expand...

I didn't say **** about scheme. Actually I'm the one yesterday that said I was tired of the bull**** talk.

Right here: http://www.canesinsight.com/threads/59280-JC-on-Rivals?p=1683680&viewfull=1#post1683680

What I am saying is can you blame him for looking around? We have to go above and beyond to beat out the SEC for top flight DT's and we haven't shown it yet.

The **** is wrong with being completely logical?
Click to expand...
What was my whole thing before the season?

Win and they will come.

Well goddammit we're not doing our part! This **** is so frustrating.
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Yup, this is what I am getting at. Not scheme not the DC, none of that. We aren't doing what is necessary to land these types of guys. I love this class, it's ******* loaded, but some guys will be won and lost with records.

Maybe there is something to his grades, maybe not.
 
RiDLer80 said:
mlw352 said:
I believe he's all cane that said I jus hope we dont start bashing this kid because that's something stuckey alluded to into why he left even though we know its grades this doesn't seem legit to me but I maybe wrong
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Nobody ever bashed Stuckey. He left because he couldn't qualify at Miami. He even tweeted that "He bets he qualifies for Auburn lol" Or something of the sort.

If Valentine leaves it'll because of the ****ty product we've been putting on the field.
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****** ingredients = ****** product

give a chef bad meat and produce and he'll give you a ****** meal..
give him prime beef and a fresh organic produce and you'll get a 5* meal....
 
Plain and simple if changes don't come in that defense coaching staff we ain't gonna look to good come February
 
PUNCICANE said:
RiDLer80 said:
mlw352 said:
I believe he's all cane that said I jus hope we dont start bashing this kid because that's something stuckey alluded to into why he left even though we know its grades this doesn't seem legit to me but I maybe wrong
Click to expand...

Nobody ever bashed Stuckey. He left because he couldn't qualify at Miami. He even tweeted that "He bets he qualifies for Auburn lol" Or something of the sort.

If Valentine leaves it'll because of the ****ty product we've been putting on the field.
Click to expand...

****** ingredients = ****** product

give a chef bad meat and produce and he'll give you a ****** meal..
give him prime beef and a fresh organic produce and you'll get a 5* meal....
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Definitely part of the deal. Especially when you combine a kid like Valentine with these other savages we are bringing in along the front.
 
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JHallCanes said:
RiDLer80 said:
JHallCanes said:
PUNCICANE said:
JHallCanes said:
Could be the most important recruit in the class but....


Can you blame him?
Click to expand...

**** yeah you can blame him! We would be a different D with the likes of him and Moten at DT, Jackson & Thomas at DE, and Owens, Fig, Young, Smith and Grace at LB.

and chill with the scheme talk. You put top talent and they'll make D'onfrio look like he's all of a sudden figured it out. UF was the best D in the nation until they lost Easley and a couple other studs, then they had Missouri and every other team marching up and down the field on them
Click to expand...

I didn't say **** about scheme. Actually I'm the one yesterday that said I was tired of the bull**** talk.

Right here: http://www.canesinsight.com/threads/59280-JC-on-Rivals?p=1683680&viewfull=1#post1683680

What I am saying is can you blame him for looking around? We have to go above and beyond to beat out the SEC for top flight DT's and we haven't shown it yet.

The **** is wrong with being completely logical?
Click to expand...
What was my whole thing before the season?

Win and they will come.

Well goddammit we're not doing our part! This **** is so frustrating.
Click to expand...

Yup, this is what I am getting at. Not scheme not the DC, none of that. We aren't doing what is necessary to land these types of guys. I love this class, it's ****ing loaded, but some guys will be won and lost with records.

Maybe there is something to his grades, maybe not.
Click to expand...

you love this class as do I. Do you love the talent on our roster (Renfrow, Green, Gaines, Highsmith, Cornelious, Porter, Robinson...)? I'm guessing no, and its why we cant play defense... Thus we NEED top talent now, and will win when we get it.
 
PUNCICANE said:
JHallCanes said:
RiDLer80 said:
JHallCanes said:
PUNCICANE said:
**** yeah you can blame him! We would be a different D with the likes of him and Moten at DT, Jackson & Thomas at DE, and Owens, Fig, Young, Smith and Grace at LB.

and chill with the scheme talk. You put top talent and they'll make D'onfrio look like he's all of a sudden figured it out. UF was the best D in the nation until they lost Easley and a couple other studs, then they had Missouri and every other team marching up and down the field on them
Click to expand...

I didn't say **** about scheme. Actually I'm the one yesterday that said I was tired of the bull**** talk.

Right here: http://www.canesinsight.com/threads/59280-JC-on-Rivals?p=1683680&viewfull=1#post1683680

What I am saying is can you blame him for looking around? We have to go above and beyond to beat out the SEC for top flight DT's and we haven't shown it yet.

The **** is wrong with being completely logical?
Click to expand...
What was my whole thing before the season?

Win and they will come.

Well goddammit we're not doing our part! This **** is so frustrating.
Click to expand...

Yup, this is what I am getting at. Not scheme not the DC, none of that. We aren't doing what is necessary to land these types of guys. I love this class, it's ****ing loaded, but some guys will be won and lost with records.

Maybe there is something to his grades, maybe not.
Click to expand...

you love this class as do I. Do you love the talent on our roster (Renfrow, Green, Gaines, Highsmith, Cornelious, Porter, Robinson...)? I'm guessing no, and its why we cant play defense... Thus we NEED top talent now, and will win when we get it.
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Agreed man, agreed. Valentine has always had a bit of a "hired gun" (no not getting paid off) feel to him to me, I guess that's where my comment stems from
 
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Consigliere said:
Jeffrey Lebowski said:
Consigliere said:
HurricaneGlory said:
His family wants him at Miami. And despite his previous comments so does Drummond/genron. But neither his family or genron make the final decision, valentine does. Regardless, I think he sticks. Hurlie won't let him get away
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We will hope for the best but I don't trust Genron at all.
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It's not just Genron.
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Okay, but I still don't trust Genron.
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"Don't trust genron from what ? You don't even know the guy he a cool dude he a cane fan **** feed us all day but why should he feed this ****** *** coaching staff ?
 
My brother is the head coach over at Champagnat and he is a huge Canes fan. Grades aren't the issue for Valentine and he's taking SAT in December. As a fan my brother hates are defense and our DC but at the end of the day he isn't into sending kids to certain schools he let the athletes choose and that's the way my brother runs it nobody will ever change that. If Valentine is wavering its because of what Valentine see's and nobody else.
 
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Clions456 said:
My brother is the head coach over at Champagnat and he is a huge Canes fan. Grades aren't the issue for Valentine and he's taking SAT in December. As a fan my brother hates are defense and our DC but at the end of the day he isn't into sending kids to certain schools he let the athletes choose. If Valentine is wavering its because of what Valentine see's and nobody else.
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Exactly
 
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