forums

Todays practice 31st

kryptonite said:
Obviously just opinion, but I think it will. Rosier has experience. And despite the last 3 games, he's got a good record of showing up when needed. He mostly got his head out of his ahss when we really needed him and that's worth something.

Now, even average accuracy would go a long way towards one of these other guys beating him out, but I assume Richt will place some value in a guy who, though short on accuracy and able to disappear for half the game, showed up enough to win 11 of his 14 starts.
Click to expand...

Not really. It was a miracle that the 4th quarter pass to Langham against GT didn't get picked off.

He had a **** showing against UNC where we had to rely on the defense to get turnovers.

He literally admitted that he was just going through the motions against Pitt where it was clear as day he was the catalyst for us losing that game.

His play in the 2nd quarter of the Orange Bowl turned the momentum of that game around and is a good legit reason for us losing.

So no, most of the time he hasn't gotten his head out of his ***.
 
Advertisement
Brooklyndee said:
Id agree on basically all points chise but one thing i wanna point out is the only people not playing through contact right now is the qb. Were spending a good portion of practice daily now in full contact 11 on 11. The defense is out there lighting people up daily. I told yall just the other day amari made one of the biggest hits ive ever seen on lo. Definitely would love to see him hold up throughout a season though. Can be a decent piece in third downs.
Click to expand...

How are the LB performing? Wilder? Steed? Jennings?
 
Brooklyndee said:
Just to be clear I'm not saying it's jarrens job. I'm not even saying one of nkosi or jarren leads over the other. I'm simply giving my outlook and based on what I've seen how i feel it may work out. Don't discount the fact that nkosi has had a year already in this system though. That is a huge factor in itself & should give cmr atleast a lil familiarity towards him for whatever that matters.
Click to expand...

Sure. I wasn't very clear with my post - didn't mean for it to sound like you were handing the job to Jarren. Mostly just that people outside the program seem to have a small sample size. Either way - a lot of football left to be practiced. Also - always appreciate the information, Dee.
 
tephlondon said:
How are the LB performing? Wilder? Steed? Jennings?
Click to expand...
Lb are looking good as a unit. Overall i hadn't bothered to really break them each down. Did notice wilder is looking good in coverage if not great. Shaq got lean & is in great shape. That should help him with his explosion & pickney is looking like hes gonna have a **** of a year. Him & shaq are very vocal leaders on that defense along with jaquan.
 
orange&green84 said:
Not really. It was a miracle that the 4th quarter pass to Langham against GT didn't get picked off.

He had a **** showing against UNC where we had to rely on the defense to get turnovers.

He literally admitted that he was just going through the motions against Pitt where it was clear as day he was the catalyst for us losing that game.

His play in the 2nd quarter of the Orange Bowl turned the momentum of that game around and is a good legit reason for us losing.

So no, most of the time he hasn't gotten his head out of his ***.
Click to expand...
This right here man ... You can go and play like that at usf Fau app state but this is the mother****ing U the team deserves better and we deserve better and id like to think I'm a pretty rational fan
 
Brooklyndee said:
Lb are looking good as a unit. Overall i hadn't bothered to really break them each down. Did notice wilder is looking good in coverage if not great. Shaq got lean & is in great shape. That should help him with his explosion & pickney is looking like hes gonna have a **** of a year. Him & shaq are very vocal leaders on that defense along with jaquan.
Click to expand...

Outstanding to hear
 
Go Canes!! said:
Malik made a beautiful throw on 4th down to beat FSU. Langham made an even better play to seal the win.

But lets not fool ourselves. Overall he had a very poor game in Tallahassee and that final drive was extended multiple times by great individual plays by Berrios for a key first down and two phenomenal runs by Homer.

Leadership is a lot more than making a throw at the end of the game. It's being mentally prepared the entire 60 minutes. It's keeping your teammates focused and motivated. It doesn't mean getting in anyone's face if that's not your makeup. There are many ways to lead.

Overall I didn't really see Rosier doing any of them for a majority of the season.
Click to expand...

It was 1st down vs FSU. We would have kicked the field goal and went to OT if it was 4th down.
 
fincane said:
We should probably stop assuming what any of these QB can do, specifically if we’ve only see them do it on the high school level in highlight tapes.

Brandon Wimbush was over 70% as a passer his senior year with over 30 TDs and single digits in INTs. Any Notre Dame fan could’ve pointed to that tape and stats and say we’ve got an accurate passer who doesn’t make a lot of mistakes. The first time he starts a full year he winds up under 50%. There are like 5 people on this board who have seen Perry or Williams in a Miami huddle and that was only in practice.

We don’t know what they’re good at on the college level.
Click to expand...

This.

Scrimmage can't get here soon enough!
 
Advertisement
Brooklyndee said:
Lb are looking good as a unit. Overall i hadn't bothered to really break them each down. Did notice wilder is looking good in coverage if not great. Shaq got lean & is in great shape. That should help him with his explosion & pickney is looking like hes gonna have a **** of a year. Him & shaq are very vocal leaders on that defense along with jaquan.
Click to expand...

Appreciate the intel BD.

I specifically ask about the back-up LB because I wanted to know how our depth is performing on D. I believe our D has the potential to be on par with last year. And I dare say better. We have proven to elite experience with each unit... J. Jack & D. Jack on the dline, Pick and Shaq @ LBs, and M. Jack, Bandy and Jaquan in the secondary. All those guys can start anywhere in the nation. I cant remember when we had this much leadership on the field.

I know there's a ton of other unknowns, but when has that not been the case coming into any season. Specifically for us this year in terms of our personnel it's cb and tackle. But look at players we have that are on the fringe of staring or being very serviceable this season.

DL - Tackles
Staring: Willis, Bethel, Ford, D. Jack (Speed Package), & Nasty Nest
Serviceable: Obenigbo & Miller


DL - Ends
Staring: Garvin & Patchan (Don't Sleep)
Serviceable: Rousseau

LB
Staring: McCloud, Steed & Wilder
Serviceable: Jennings, Carter

Secondary
Staring: Redwine, Carter, Hall & Ivy
Serviceable: Dean, Frierson, Blades

I know the depth doubters will come. I considered it tho. To those don't discount the system being in place for three years now and that the elite experience players I mentioned earlier are teaching and keeping their teammates in check. Lastly, depth can be fixed if we can get the qb to get more than 3 pts off of 3 t.o. With the DE we have, teams dont want to get down to us 21-0. It's like blood in shark infested water.
 
Last edited:
MIATL said:
This.

Scrimmage can't get here soon enough!
Click to expand...
I'm sorry. Not to argue semantics but that particular comparison doesn't hold up. Wimbush had one thing going for him that was his underneath game was on point. At Notre dame they tried to extend him out to where he was making throws he's not yet comfortable with. But when he stayed in his bread & butter they were doing their thing. Thats why we were the first team to expose him last year. Our coverage held up underneath & our blitz packages shook him up. Malik didnt have accuracy underneath either. If he did hed be serviceable.
 
Brooklyndee said:
I'm sorry. Not to argue semantics but that particular comparison doesn't hold up. Wimbush had one thing going for him that was his underneath game was on point. At Notre dame they tried to extend him out to where he was making throws he's not yet comfortable with. But when he stayed in his bread & butter they were doing their thing. Thats why we were the first team to expose him last year. Our coverage held up underneath & our blitz packages shook him up. Malik didnt have accuracy underneath either. If he did hed be serviceable.
Click to expand...

The comparison is about using high school film to make an automatic assumption about how high school QBs will translate.

The film shows potential ... But there is no guarantee, and that's the point of the original QP.

Rosier is who he is. And to date, that's not great.

But these proclamations about Perry, Weldon, and Williams are WAY overblown, IMO.
 
Last edited:
MIATL said:
The comparison is about using high school film to make an automatic assumption about how high school QBs will translate.

The film shows potential ... But there is no guarantee, and that's the point of the original QP.

Rosier is who he is. And to date, that's no great.

But these proclamations about Perry, Weldon, and Williams are WAY overblown, IMO.
Click to expand...

Fincane made a great point using Wimbush as his example.

You never ever know what you’re going to get from a QB until he’s under center with the band playing. You see skill sets from HS highlights and from practices, but QB is one of the most unique positions in all of sports because of the amount of information you have to process under extreme pressure and in a split second of time. You can’t replicate those circumstances anywhere other than gameday.

We pretty much know what we have with Rosier. He can improve (or maybe get a little worse) from last year. But we know how he handles the big stage despite all of his limitations.

We have absolutely no clue with the other QBs. They have better skills, but those skills are useless if they can’t do it in live action at important moments with a lot of people counting on you, fans screaming, and talented people on the other side trying to kill you.
 
The Franchise said:
Fincane made a great point using Wimbush as his example.

You never ever know what you’re going to get from a QB until he’s under center with the band playing. ... They have better skills, but those skills are useless if they can’t do it in live action at important moments with a lot of people counting on you, fans screaming, and talented people on the other side trying to kill you.
Click to expand...


This is a simple point people just don’t get. It completely escapes them.

In high school, these quarterbacks were facing 11 defensive players, of which 90% or more never even went on to play Division 2 football. Now every single player they face on the other side of the ball is ten times better than most anybody they faced in high school.

There is no telling how they react in real game situations.

We’re all hoping one of the higher skill QBs seperate out, but they need to win the practices and the scrimmages first....and 80% of that will be in the summer and fall.

These spring practices and this lone spring scrimmage is just a little taste.

I’ve said it a thousand times for you over-emotional ninnies: the spring is just a warmup and absolutely nothing will be settled or determined. I guarantee it.

There’s a long way to go. The gladiatorial contests begin after spring scrimmage.
 
Advertisement
MIATL said:
The comparison is about using high school film to make an automatic assumption about how high school QBs will translate.

The film shows potential ... But there is no guarantee, and that's the point of the original QP.

Rosier is who he is. And to date, that's not great.

But these proclamations about Perry, Weldon, and Williams are WAY overblown, IMO.
Click to expand...
If film is the only point or atleast the emphasis of course ur right. Any scout would tell you thats by far the hardest position to recruit beyond a high school level. It really is a crap shoot. Far as film goes theres far too many intangibles to put so much belief into it. At this level the main thing is all in the head first & foremost. As we learned atleast last year the tools and the physical traits only show so much about a kid.
 
the23Watcher said:
@Brooklyndee do you know why the team isn't using all of it allotted practice days for the spring?
Click to expand...
Cause with the ipf taking up so much of the space and construction going on daily were having to split up practice. Weve been on greentree,the intramural field & even the baseball field at times. School obviously has other activities booked as well. Like on saturday there was track going on & the other schools had buses and people spread out everywhere. Were doing stuff every day its just a matter of what and where.
 
Boot Cane said:
I think at this point we just need to rally behind Malik. He needs to spend the summer working on his accuracy. He’s a great leader, makes great runs, and is good with RPO.
Click to expand...
obfan said:
The problem is that CMR said Malik made almost ALL the right reads but didn't execute. That suggests to me that coach does not want a guy who goes off script like Perry. I said it all last year and I will continue to say it. Changes need to be made offensively. Coaching changes. I want CMR to stay here but he is a lousy offensive coordinator and having the kid on the staff is embarrassing
Click to expand...

How does this make a lick of sense?
 
Back
Top