I knew I wasnt going crazy. I knew someone said this incident happened and saw it with their own eyes.Patke came out of the locker room and they went to the side. TAC’s dad was heated. That’s all im saying.
I knew I wasnt going crazy. I knew someone said this incident happened and saw it with their own eyes.Patke came out of the locker room and they went to the side. TAC’s dad was heated. That’s all im saying.
Correct. Manny's actual defense gets crushed on here, and it's certainly got it's flaws, but the MUCH larger indicator of his inability to get it done here was the recruiting aspect. I have long maintained, and will until I die, that at the HS and college levels, elite talent is far and away the largest predictor of success. It masks decent or even good coaching. But if you're not the best coach on the planet, and you're rolling out whatever in the everloving**** we saw at the linebacker position the last few years, you're toast.
Manny the recruiter is what got him fired. Not Manny the football coach. He was a better coach than he was recruiter.
Brotha man..I was Flaggs biggest defender. Check the history. I defended him week after week. But the kid is just limited. We honestly would have to have Cortez Kennedy and Russell Maryland at DT like in 1989 for him to do what you are saying he can do. Maybe JHH and LT can be that for us. But I dont know.Yea @cway313. That's what i thought. Suit up or shut up *****.
Ties to the gradual decline of his defense. Shaq, Pink, RJ, Kendrick, Willis, Chad, MJack, Jaquan, Sheldrick, Joe Jackson, Trent Harris, Dee Delaney etc. In hindsight those initial 2-3 years had some very talented guys on defense who have hung around the league for a while, and the defense performed well for the most part.
It became a mess when those guys gave way to the Gurvan Hall, Bradley Jennings, Flagg, DJ Ivey, Jon Ford, Deandre Johnson, Jordan Millers etc.
Which leads to a thought I try to never say aloud in fear i'll be committed: Al Golden was sneaky good evaluator of those mid-3 star, low-4 star players on defense. He just had no idea how to use themAKA recruiting. Correct.
Yea.. those games Manny got too cute doing his tired *** DE/DT STUNTS leaving Flagg in a position he should never be in.Brotha man..I was Flaggs biggest defender. Check the history. I defended him week after week. But the kid is just limited. We honestly would have to have Cortez Kennedy and Russell Maryland at DT like in 1989 for him to do what you are saying he can do. Maybe JHH and LT can be that for us. But I dont know.
But can you at least agree that there were games where it did look like he just wasnt up to snuff. Nobody is perfect. But we need an upgrade at the MLB spot. He can be a solid backup. There is a place on this team for guys like Mike Smith who was a VERY solid MLB backup his Sr year. Just isnt a starter. Flagg has role in the rotation. I believe that. Just not as a starter.
He's suffering Mannyitis.... Curable but it takes some time...When you say it hasn't clicked yet can you expand upon that? Is he not trusting his instincts and reacting too slow? Is he hitting the wrong run fits and leaving creases? Can't call the defense for the front 7? A combination of all of it?
Agree, to a certain extent the the talent did diminish. Development too, in part, including fundamentals.Ties to the gradual decline of his defense. Shaq, Pink, RJ, Kendrick, Willis, Chad, MJack, Jaquan, Sheldrick, Joe Jackson, Trent Harris, Dee Delaney etc. In hindsight those initial 2-3 years had some very talented guys on defense who have hung around the league for a while, and the defense performed well for the most part.
It became a mess when those guys gave way to the Gurvan Hall, Bradley Jennings, Flagg, DJ Ivey, Jon Ford, Deandre Johnson, Jordan Millers etc.
How can you hate Manny and also hate the players he put in a bad position? You can't have both.
We saw this same **** with Donofrio. Then Manny took those same players and made them look a little better. Then yall had to eat crow.
This weirdo questioned why Flagg was starting when he's clearly our best tackler and most instinctive linebacker. Like who tf gonna start over him?
If not forced to do **** he ain't good at Then yall wouldn't even be dogging Flagg like that. But rest assure he will be starting come fall and imma make yall eat some major crow too.
Maybe your right, but are you saying we should scheme our defense around Flagg because he has limitations?Yea.. those games Manny got too cute doing his tired *** DE/DT STUNTS leaving Flagg in a position he should never be in.
Can't show me a game where the Dline played assignment football and Flagg just got abused all game within the tackle box.
Nobody said anything about Perryman who is slow af but could tackle well yet yall all on Flagg top for it? Foh with that revisionist history.
NfL is full of a bunch of Flagg types.
He really isn't. He ran a 4.78 at the Miami pro day which is right about average for an NFL ILB.Not an expert, but there's NFL slow, and there's NCAA slow. Perryman may be NFL slow, but he's put together a pretty good NFL career as a thumper, and was a beast in college. Flagg is D-1 slow, and yet to make an impact.
if you're talking about the LB's specifically, i agree. it might have been the most undercoached position group on the team. safeties probably next.Playing time will do nothing but help. BUT that's not the end all when it relates to these boys. Every position group previously recieved coaching that limited their development to simply matches inside of the scheme. I REALLY don't think people comprehend how bad the coaching was previously towards development. Not gonna harp on it because far too much positive is going on right now inside of the program to bother with previous staph shortcomings. What I will say is the teachings of proven talent developers like Steele and Strong can't be spoke on enough. I gaurentee you a few of those boys are gonna be night and day come September. Just watch.
Correct. Manny's actual defense gets crushed on here, and it's certainly got it's flaws, but the MUCH larger indicator of his inability to get it done here was the recruiting aspect. I have long maintained, and will until I die, that at the HS and college levels, elite talent is far and away the largest predictor of success. It masks decent or even good coaching. But if you're not the best coach on the planet, and you're rolling out whatever in the everloving**** we saw at the linebacker position the last few years, you're toast.
Manny the recruiter is what got him fired. Not Manny the football coach. He was a better coach than he was recruiter.