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This is why Parrish and Franklin have a great opportunity

bobbydigius said:
from our vaunted back field, one guy didn’t even get drafted, another transfered where again, and the most talented one can’t stay healthy? Nah.
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Yeah it’s a deep backfield but much like our receiver group we still need someone to step up and be the clear cut #1

Right now it’s a good room for the conference but not nationally to me
 
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DTP said:
Statistically that's when the rushing offense went into the toilet.

First 6 games of 2021 (with Harris) 160.3 ypg rushing
Last 6 games of 2021 (no Harris) 97.1 ypg rushing
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Had Chaney not gotten hurt, those numbers would be much better. Rooster wasn't equiped to be the lead back in Lashlee's predictable inside zone running game.
 
bandhammer said:
Which had very little to do with him. The first thing is, Central Connecticut State is the outlier. We had 322 yards rushing against them. We had 175 yards rushing against App State.

Against actual FBS schools, we averaged 116.25 yards per game, he averaged 54.5.
Against the last 6 FBS opponents, we averaged 97.1.

If you want to think that he made some huge difference, then so be it, but I'd like to think that Knighton is simply not an inside runner that was used as an inside runner. Either way, we are literally talking about 19 yards a game difference.
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Just look at our ACC games. Cam played vs UVA and half the UNC game.

Cam + Knighton 2 games - 163 yds per game & 4.4 ypc
Knighton himself 6 games - 95 yds per game & 3.1 ypc

Losing Cam made a noticeable difference
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Southern Oz said:
Surely that is the most likely scenario.

If people think he is going to throw 4 500 yards and 35 TD’s, that’s just not going to happen with this offence
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Yeah, I was soft selling it a little bit so as to not incur the wrath of the TVD devotees.

I am a huge fan but it is best for the team if our reliance on him is lessened within a more balanced offense.
 
DTP said:
The offensive line was bad. I don't think anyone is going to argue that. The production did take a turn for the worse after Harris got hurt though. Even if you don't count the Central Connecticut game, Miami was a much better rushing team with Harris than with Knighton as the main back. There was a thread here not too long ago discussing the drop-off. The main problem was that with such a poor run blocking line, Harris was able to take better advantage of the occasional hole they would open up whereas Knighton too often looked for contact. I don't remember who it was that had the video evidence and/or numbers but it might have been @DMoney. With a poor run blocking line, you need to get as many chunk plays as possible when the opportunity arises but Chaney would too often run himself right into a defender after 5 yards.

I think with a renewed focus on run blocking and a stable of healthy backs, Miami should be able to get back to being a solid, if not great running team this year. With a bit more consistency, it wouldn't be unimaginable to see them crack the 160-170 yards per game mark. That would take a lot of the pressure off the passing game.
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That was me. Just look at Knighton's highlights.

Once Knighton crosses the line of scrimmage on his runs - he just runs fast on a straight line. Straight into a defender a lot of the time. It's weird.

He's not changing directions and needs to make that adjustment to his game. There's like 1 run where he changes direction (vs GT).

If anyone can point out differently - please do.

 
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JHallCanes said:
Yeah it’s a deep backfield but much like our receiver group we still need someone to step up and be the clear cut #1

Right now it’s a good room for the conference but not nationally to me
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Citizen seems like an upgrade as well but point is we have a nice backfield, I’d say top 20ish but far from elite. Adding Baxter and having a healthy Chaney changes things drastically though.
 
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This will ruffle feathers

Re: Chaney. When has player had a significant season ending injury in B2B seasons and play at an elite level ?

Odds are stacked against Chaney. I’ve moved him into the Sam brooks category. It’s year 3 for Chaney And he’s done exactly nothing here. Not a knock on him it’s unfortunate he’s been injured.

Knighton is too light in the pants to be an every down guy.

Franklin is overweight and too slow to see carries.

If Citizen gets to Miami in shape and can learn the playbook, he could log serious minutes.

I can’t speak on Parrish. I haven’t followed his game closely.
 
M3N said:
This will ruffle feathers

Re: Chaney. When has player had a significant season ending injury in B2B seasons and play at an elite level ?

Odds are stacked against Chaney. I’ve moved him into the Sam brooks category. It’s year 3 for Chaney And he’s done exactly nothing here. Not a knock on him it’s unfortunate he’s been injured.

Knighton is too light in the pants to be an every down guy.

Franklin is overweight and too slow to see carries.

If Citizen gets to Miami in shape and can learn the playbook, he could log serious minutes.

I can’t speak on Parrish. I haven’t followed his game closely.
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I mean honestly, when you really think about it & break it down like that …
 
DMoney said:
Citizen has a chance to be the top back.
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Stop “If” Don doesn’t play. Tell me you feel that way when the kid misses a block/blitz and TVD gets blasted. I know I’m a lot of things, but stupid isn’t one of them. Don is number one if he’s healthy. Hopefully the kid gets some playing time and has a successful freshman campaign. Hopefully Don too has a GREAT season and has the opportunity to turn pro and get paid. Fwiw Parrish will see a lot more playing time than any freshman.
 
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Boarcane said:
Stop lol “If” Don doesn’t play. Tell me you feel that way when the kid misses a block/blitz and TVD gets blasted. I know I’m a lot of things, but stupid isn’t one of them. Don is number one if he’s healthy. Hopefully the kid gets some playing time and has a successful freshman campaign. Hopefully Don too has a GREAT season and has the opportunity to turn pro and get paid. Fwiw Parish will see a lot more playing time than any freshman.
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Parrish in the pass game is where he’ll be very valuable. If we don’t add a wr we should use a lot of 22 personnel. Flexing out a te or motioning rb’s out would get mismatches. Theres more than one way to skin a cat. I see rb by committee and Citizen is part of the committee.
 
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htownkidd said:
I mean honestly, when you really think about it & break it down like that …
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People over hype our talent and they’ll literally do it till they no longer can lace em up. See brooks.

The last guy to do it was ******* Frank Gore. A future hall of famer.

This is why recruiting at high levels is so paramount. No1 predicted Chaneys injuries. I’m glad we signed Citizen and Parrish.. We’d be in trouble if we didn’t
 
3FW said:
Very clear they want a power running game. Line is not there yet, but I do see Franklin carrying the load if he works hard this summer.
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If he loses a few more pounds and gets a smidge quicker, he'll be **** good.
 
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htownkidd said:
It’s up for debate and can be argued for sure, but count me in the camp that believes our OL/run blocking was the much bigger issue than our backs individually.

Obviously health & availability is the elephant in the room for #2, but I’m still his biggest fan and believe he is one of the best players on this team if he can just stay out of the training room. Knighton may not be THE guy at RB either especially for a Mario/Gattis led offense but still a very talented back nonetheless that has had success and will have a lot to say about Citizen taking snaps from him come fall. Good problem to have overall and at the end of the day it’s a catch 22 because if he were to pass him up, we are looking at a bonafide superstar in the making.
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My take:

Chaney has everything you’re looking for in a back, except for the fact that he can never stay healthy.

Knighton has that elite burst, and he can make guys miss in space, but his vision holds him back at times.

Franklin is your ideal 3rd and short guy, but he seems to go down far too easy.

Parrish has good vision and runs hard, but he lacks that top-end speed that you need once you get into the open field.

It will be interesting to see what Citizen can do.
 
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bshaw28 said:
That was me. Just look at Knighton's highlights.

Once Knighton crosses the line of scrimmage on his runs - he just runs fast on a straight line. Straight into a defender a lot of the time. It's weird.

He's not changing directions and needs to make that adjustment to his game. There's like 1 run where he changes direction (vs GT).

If anyone can point out differently - please do.

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Yes, credit to you on that thread.

Also, just casually watching the highlights and they only run inside zone once in the first 9 or 10 plays. ThEy OnLy hAd OnE rUnNiNg pLaY!
 
I still think Parrish is our RB1. There’s nothing he does that totally wows you but he does everything well. If we’re really putting a premium on not having negative run plays, Parrish and Franklin will be the guys. Neither is a game breaker but if we’re trying to have a consistent, power running game, those guys are going to get positive yards every time
 
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