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The talk about Tate's weak arm is BS

jmcanes22 said:
If the two other QB's didn't have everything I needed to see as a starter, then yes. I didn't like Malik as a QB either. But at that point and time if none of your younger guys give you a better chance then you go with the SENIOR. Perry didn't just make bad throws against UVA. Malik was the senior and starter from last year and had the better head on his shoulders. I got news for you, we are not winning more than 7 with N'Kosi in the lineup full time either.
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Wrong! Both QB's were better. CMR should have never snatched Perry out... he didn't snatch Malik out like that. It was Richt's predictable playcalling that made Perry look bad. Common theme with Richt... every QB he touched here regressed!
 
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brock said:
We’ve seen that will all the qbs, is anyone comfortable with Perry or any qb for that matter throwing those type of passes? I still Can’t get the shades of the uva pick out of my head that I just saw
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That was just a bad throw. There’s a difference between making a bad decision and not physically being able to do something.
 
WIN said:
Wrong! Both QB's were better. CMR should have never snatched Perry out... he didn't snatch Malik out like that. It was Richt's predictable playcalling that made Perry look bad. Common theme with Richt... every QB he touched here regressed!
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Have you seen Williams enough in a game to say he was better? You have not seen him in practice because they are closed. Are you going off of his high school tapes? I saw N'kosi play and he was just as bad as Malik. Now Tate? Outside of pulling up old high school video's you can't say anything about him. He played very well against mop up time at OSU. You coaches make these calls like your sitting on the sideline at practice with a fedora and tie on writing notes.
 
lurk said:
Link: Tate's arm strength video

I, like MOST other TRUE cane fans, just want the best QB to start for the Canes.

There's a lot to recommend Jarren, and alot to recommend Kosi.

But the constant knock against Tate's arm strength had me worried about him. Unless he hurt his arm after the above highlights were filmed, the detractors of Tate and his arm strength are full of crap.

Glad I found this... especially IF Tate is the named starter.

Now, I have full confidence in each of the three combatants/contestants.
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If Dan Enos and Manny Diaz name Tate as the starting QB I will be his biggest cheerleader. But as of now to date he has not done what's in the highlights as far as the videos coming out of Green Tree. I want the best guy in camp to get the start no matter who it is. It doesn't make a lot of sense to divide the fan base because we want a guy that we haven't had the privilege to see up close and personal as the OF and QB coach.

Lets just wait on Manny and Enos to name a starter and lets all of us get behind that guy. It's about the wins and this "U" getting back to National Dominance!
 
I am new to posting but followed for a while. You guys are awesome Canes and I love the passion from all of you. I love it going back and forth. I truly believe its going to be a fun season and will have a blast going back and forth.
 
Anybody who knows anything knows it's not the one who make the big plays but the one who get it done when the pressures on you need that one who can move the chains get that 2 min offense in position and score the winning touchdown or field goal.there will be a game or two that will come down to that last drive .we want the guy who can get it done.
 
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Here's what we know.

Tate has film against Oregon St, Rutgers, and Tulane in games where he came in with a three TD lead or more.

In those games the coaches were relatively conservative in the passing game because they didn't have to be aggressive. Still Tate took care of the ball and threw for better than 80% completions. He also was dynamic running the ball and showed good field generalship.

Perry's most efficient games were against Sav St and FIU. He was less efficient but more explosive. The comp is less than what Tate faced. In all his other games against better comp he was really inconsistent. He made some flash plays but he also **** the bed at times. Woefully bad at times.

I don't know if Martell can win more games for us but Im hopeful he wont lose them and that's an upgrade in my book compared to Perry and Rosier under Richt.

I believe that Martell's floor is higher than what we saw last year. So if Enos goes with Williams or Perry I am confident that we can expect a significant improvement in QB play compared to last season. If he chooses Martell we may have limitations on offense but it wont be a liability like last season.
 
jmcanes22 said:
Have you seen Williams enough in a game to say he was better? You have not seen him in practice because they are closed. Are you going off of his high school tapes? I saw N'kosi play and he was just as bad as Malik. Now Tate? Outside of pulling up old high school video's you can't say anything about him. He played very well against mop up time at OSU. You coaches make these calls like your sitting on the sideline at practice with a fedora and tie on writing notes.
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I've seen Malik enough in games to know you could have done better! You cappin if you think Perry was worse than Malik! How many bad games did Malik have compared to Perry?
 
Hoyacane1620 said:
But that's the problem; Perry looked for harley instead of looking to see what the defense gave him....
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They were playing cover 2. Kosi had only two reads on that play. Either the hitch or corner post. Harley was suppose to cut off the route in front the safety. Instead he try to get behind the safety.
 
jmcanes22 said:
Well as I said in an earlier post, I think Perry starts because of the playing time factor. He simply has more game experience. And if you watched him play last year he can only get better. Tate will be there if Manny has a short leash and JW will have had his locker cleaned out by game time. I will say it again, if you can’t beat out #12 and N’kosi last year then you probably are overrated. I don’t want to hear that Richt didn’t want to waste him or Richt didn’t like playing Freshman.
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The problem with this Theory is I can show you a dozen examples where backup Qb's in college were much better then the starter and went on to prove it the next year after the incumbent QB left. Your theory doesnt hold weight
 
Kayone said:
I’ve been saying that too. Malik was just too terrible not to beat out.
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A senior coming off the first 10 win season that we have had in 15 years threw for over 3000 yards and threw 26 TDs. But your gonna start a resdhirt freshman over him.. This board is so ******* dumb
 
D RevLee said:
He said that if all other things are close then that gives Tate an edge and I heard no lies. U can win with a QB or u could win with a QB who fits and can further your brand. Seems like an easy choice, to me. CFB is a business.
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Miami doesnt need anyone to help their brand when they are already known not only in the US but also known in most of Europe. People walking around with UM's paraphernalia because of being a winner back in the day and not because of a single player whom they don't even know. People just want to be associated with a winner.
 
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jmcanes22 said:
If the two other QB's didn't have everything I needed to see as a starter, then yes. I didn't like Malik as a QB either. But at that point and time if none of your younger guys give you a better chance then you go with the SENIOR. Perry didn't just make bad throws against UVA. Malik was the senior and starter from last year and had the better head on his shoulders. I got news for you, we are not winning more than 7 with N'Kosi in the lineup full time either.
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Remember, Perry was a redshirt freshman in 2017. The majority of the first team reps went to Rosier, after being named starter after spring training 2018. Agree, Perry wasn’t ready last year, and made freshman mistakes in UVA game. Entered the original starter; senior, who continued to make freshman mistakes against UVA, Boston college, and Wisconsin.
Bottom line, we don’t have a leader at quarterback, and Diaz is banking on Enos... not Perry, Williams, or Martell. The keys are: play calling, OL run blocking, Dallas/Harris/Lorenzo, TEs, and Thomas. The 3 quarterbacks need at least a year to be a focus on offense.
 
Kayone said:
I’ve been saying that too. Malik was just too terrible not to beat out.
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What don't y'all get that Richt was going to play Malik no matter what? Anybody with eyes could see that! After the LSU game if we took a vote for who the starter should be what place do you think Malik would be? And if you don't know the answer is 3rd schedule a appointment with your eye doctor ASAP!
 
The Franchise said:
Certain factions have been looking for reasons to knock this kid since he got here. They invented that he has a weak arm because they thought other dopes would buy it due to Tate’s lack of height. His arm is fine.

And if Enos tailors an offense to fit what he does best, then he can probably succeed here. If he tries to force him to run an offense he might not be best suited to run them he’ll probably struggle.
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Franchise you know football..you know dam well Martell can only be successful in an Ohio State type offense, and you know we are not gonna run that kind of offense at Miami... Diaz told us when he hired Enos what type of offense he is going to bring and that aint it. Starting martell would be akin to trying to fit a square peg in a round hole
 
WIN said:
I've seen Malik enough in games to know you could have done better! You cappin if you think Perry was worse than Malik! How many bad games did Malik have compared to Perry?
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I understand your point. But, if Perry played under Richt Jr’s tutelage for three years - their number of bad games would be equal. The coaching was horrid. Horrid.
 
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