agreed. i didnt say he didnt know mario was coming when he committed, i just said he committed prior to mario officially coming on which means he couldnt have recruited him FOR MIAMI. he visited him after he was hired and was already committed. remember, he visited FSU and then committed to us right after that.
those are some good points.. I would never advocated for having kept Manny... i haven't seen anybody flat out say we should have.. I understand the sentiment of "if we're ok with where Mario is now, then we should have kept Manny". But that's different in my opinion. Neither, through 2 seasons, have met the standard. But Manny was a first year head coach with limited resources. I expected a big learning curve.
Well comparing our first 2 years with MC versus FSU with Norvell I'd rather have a 13-1 season than anything MC will likely give us in the next few...
He loves him some jags that’s for sure
id hire Ozzie Newsome before alonzo if were being honest and it isnt even close but alonzo went to UM and Columbus so we all love and overrate him
I certainly won’t give Mario passes for his failures on the field (we all know what they are/were) nor his seemingly inability to make decisive staff decisions (there very well be some backstories to these situations) but we also can not discount the fact that he walked into a program that was mediocre at best for the past 20 years. 7-5 average wins and losses with some of the most embarrassing losses in program history.
Not sure everything falls on Zo. Zo and coaches don’t always agree on players. Mario signs off on everyone.
Feels to me like Mario sees a lot of utility in depth guys / attitude guys in the portal. Obviously he's got some trophies (Cohen, Lee, etc.) but he values veteran grunts, while we as fans look around and see people like FSU adding more top line dudes and rightfully don't understand why we can't do the same thing.
How were Norvell first two years. Compare apples to apples then.
Need to find difference makers. Portal has given us way too many jags.
Any football team in America would take Newsome over their current structure. He’s the best GM of the last two decades in the NFL.
Outstanding summary and spot on. It’s an uphill, constant battle no doubt and there’s been more turmoil and average than great going back a very long time.
It was. I think we were in the 40-60 range when we hired Mario and in 2 months he got us in the top 20. With the complete and total lack of juice we had and with Manny;s success in the portal I really wonder if that is where he was planning to attack recruiting. Similar to FSU where we clown there HS recruiting but right now the portal is looking pretty good for them. Would not surprise me if that was the plan looking back and that is where Manny thought resources should be targeted.
I think the issue with the portal is it goes completely against Mario's recruiting strategy. Like if Mario could find a way to have been at the hospital to help deliver Trevor Lawerence as a baby to build a relationship with his parents he would. We have seen him miss on some HS recruits because he wants the players to take other visits, talk with family, visit here with his family, build a relationship etc. The portal to me needs a more used car salesman approach. Quick, high pressure, visit, sign, shut it down. Also when you look at the coaches that have success in the portal (aside from someone like UGA or Bama) guys like Norvell, Manny, Deon, Lane all fit that salesperson persona. I also am not even saying that negatively, it is what it is.
