Swasey needs to be shown the dooe

Swasey's situation is a classic example of nepotism. The guy has been underperforming and our team (physically) has been underachieving for almost a decade. The best results Swasey has been able to get is when a HC (Golden) overhauled the S&C program.
 
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We constantly have some of the fastest and strongest players in the country when ever we have our pro day. He is not the problem.
 
We constantly have some of the fastest and strongest players in the country when ever we have our pro day. He is not the problem.

After they go train everyday, twice a day for 2 months with people and programs designed to get them ready for the Draft.
 
I actually think we are in decent shape as a team (much better than under Randy), but he needs to go. We need to get a speed training guru who will help these guys become shredded with fast twitch muscle fibers. Our skilled guys and te/lb aren't too bad, but our o-lineman are fat blubs.

How do u figure this team is in much better shape than when Shannon was here.
 
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Shannon, Paul Williams, Scott ain't all that, and now it's Swasey lol. When Golden retained Swasey dudes (including Golden) excused it by saying that Swasey was just following the orders of Shannon as S&C coach supposedly do. But now the narrative has switched, now it's his bad coaching and not Golden's tutelage lol! U can't make this stuff up.
 
Team winning % in sept and oct for the last ten seasons: .666
Team winning % in nov for the last ten seasons: .400

These numbers SCREAM poorly conditioned team. We always come up small down the stretch. It's a disturbing and consistent trend.

Those numbers scream poorly coached team playing better teams
 
Shannon, Paul Williams, Scott ain't all that, and now it's Swasey lol. When Golden retained Swasey dudes (including Golden) excused it by saying that Swasey was just following the orders of Shannon as S&C coach supposedly do. But now the narrative has switched, now it's his bad coaching and not Golden's tutelage lol! U can't make this stuff up.

I've never claimed Swasey was following Shannon's orders.

I also never claimed he was following Golden's.

I'm on record, on this very site, as saying in January of 2011 that Al Golden retaining Swasey was a death blow to his regime. I was correct.

For all those defending Swasey, we know why. It's sad and pathetic. But we know why.
 
Team winning % in sept and oct for the last ten seasons: .666
Team winning % in nov for the last ten seasons: .400

These numbers SCREAM poorly conditioned team. We always come up small down the stretch. It's a disturbing and consistent trend.

Those numbers scream poorly coached team playing better teams

Except if you read my Halloween thread you would actually know that our schedule in Sept and Oct was tougher than in November. So you are completely incorrect.
 
Swasey built this team in Golden's image. Remember, Golden was always harping on putting weight on players. He wasn't too concerned with speed. However, on the flip side, I'd take Moffitt back from LSU in a heart beat over Swasey. Players would come back to Miamito work out in the weight room regardless of who the S&C coach is.

I remember talking to the father of one of the OL's on one of Johnson's teams, I think it was. I remember the player, Mike Pigza, who was a tall thin OL who suffered a bad internal injury. I think I brought up the issue of steroids, and he said the coaches never pressed steroid usage, but pressured the players to "get bigger, get bigger." Maybe back then we had OLs who were too light. That was probably true since we rarely had good running teams, we did it on the passing of Kosar, Testaverde and Walsh. Still, the impression I received was, that there was a lot of pressure to get bigger. Big now, is a lot bigger, than big then. We have guys way over 300. Big then was around 270-280.

I'm not sure if these injuries are related to a poor conditioning and weight program. I'm not seeing the same team a lot of you are. I watched the replay stream late last night--for some reason ESPN3 lost a good part of what I guess was a VA drive in the early 4th-- but I did see a lot of good, swift defensive play by UM. Commentators were talking about how it looked like UM of old, with swarms of tacklers. I saw guys coming up very fast to close on ball carriers. Sure, they gave us some trouble on the edge, but that might have been scheme, not the players. I think they might have fixed that late. It is true, we're playing some DEs at OLB, because we're thin. All of our LBs should be Grace-type swift, like they used to be, but that can be fixed with new recruits.

I never like seeing multiple guys down at the end of a play. Makes me wonder too if we're soft, or if it's something else. Despite the old adage that the guy who plays hard doesn't get hurt that the coaches used to preach to us back in the day, sometimes I think the players who sell out end up with more injuries, especially those that you come back from. That seemed to be the case with a lot of our injuries. They guys eventually got up and walked off.

But I guess I know a lot less than all the football gurus on this board who received letters from some HS team down there for their junior and senior years, and even went on to play bigtime at southern NW Eastern Georgia State Tech Louisiana div 3 program.

A guy I used to know, a UM alum in Pittsburgh, officiated a lot of HS football and scrimmages at Pitt. He would see a lot of rough play in the scrimmages, and intra-squad fights. like between the offense and defense. He attributed this to a coaching philosophy adopted by Jackie Sherrill or Johnny Majors, I can't remember who the HC was at the time, and his AHC, Jimmy Johnson. They used to let the fights go on, the rough and dirty play in the scrimmages. He thought that was why there were so many injuries in UM practices during Jimmy's era. He contrasted the Sherrill-Majors-Johnson style to Paterno, where he also officiated practices. Paterno woul come down off the tower if there was a fight to lecture them. The other style let the guys beat up on each other for a while.

Maybe opposing teams are better at playing dirty against us, maybe they are just rougher, have rougher scrimmages. Contrast the '88 LSU game with that embarrassment some years later in the Peach Bowl. We were pussies, yet still wanted to act tough after the game and tried to follow them into their locker room and fight.

I don't think it's S&C, I think it's something else.
 
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Swasey built this team in Golden's image. Remember, Golden was always harping on putting weight on players. He wasn't too concerned with speed. However, on the flip side, I'd take Moffitt back from LSU in a heart beat over Swasey. Players would come back to Miamito work out in the weight room regardless of who the S&C coach is.

I remember talking to the father of one of the OL's on one of Johnson's teams, I think it was. I remember the player, Mike Pigza, who was a tall thin OL who suffered a bad internal injury. I think I brought up the issue of steroids, and he said the coaches never pressed steroid usage, but pressured the players to "get bigger, get bigger." Maybe back then we had OLs who were too light. That was probably true since we rarely had good running teams, we did it on the passing of Kosar, Testaverde and Walsh. Still, the impression I received was, that there was a lot of pressure to get bigger. Big now, is a lot bigger, than big then. We have guys way over 300. Big then was around 270-280.

I'm not sure if these injuries are related to a poor conditioning and weight program. I'm not seeing the same team a lot of you are. I watched the replay stream late last night--for some reason ESPN3 lost a good part of what I guess was a VA drive in the early 4th-- but I did see a lot of good, swift defensive play by UM. Commentators were talking about how it looked like UM of old, with swarms of tacklers. I saw guys coming up very fast to close on ball carriers. Sure, they gave us some trouble on the edge, but that might have been scheme, not the players. I think they might have fixed that late. It is true, we're playing some DEs at OLB, because we're thin. All of our LBs should be Grace-type swift, like they used to be, but that can be fixed with new recruits.

I never like seeing multiple guys down at the end of a play. Makes me wonder too if we're soft, or if it's something else. Despite the old adage that the guy who plays hard doesn't get hurt that the coaches used to preach to us back in the day, sometimes I think the players who sell out end up with more injuries, especially those that you come back from. That seemed to be the case with a lot of our injuries. They guys eventually got up and walked off.

But I guess I know a lot less than all the football gurus on this board who received letters from some HS team down there for their junior and senior years, and even went on to play bigtime at southern NW Eastern Georgia State Tech Louisiana div 3 program.

A guy I used to know, a UM alum in Pittsburgh, officiated a lot of HS football and scrimmages at Pitt. He would see a lot of rough play in the scrimmages, and intra-squad fights. like between the offense and defense. He attributed this to a coaching philosophy adopted by Jackie Sherrill or Johnny Majors, I can't remember who the HC was at the time, and his AHC, Jimmy Johnson. They used to let the fights go on, the rough and dirty play in the scrimmages. He thought that was why there were so many injuries in UM practices during Jimmy's era. He contrasted the Sherrill-Majors-Johnson style to Paterno, where he also officiated practices. Paterno woul come down off the tower if there was a fight to lecture them. The other style let the guys beat up on each other for a while.

Maybe opposing teams are better at playing dirty against us, maybe they are just rougher, have rougher scrimmages. Contrast the '88 LSU game with that embarrassment some years later in the Peach Bowl. We were pussies, yet still wanted to act tough after the game and tried to follow them into their locker room and fight.

I don't think it's S&C, I think it's something else.

The man has been here for not 1, not 2, but THREE failed regimes. ******* THREE. And a common theme in all of those regimes is late season collapses. It's blatantly poor conditioning.

I have never seen a man who is so excused. What are people so afraid of losing this guy for? I mean let's say even if he was fired it meant the former players never came back......WHO CARES? The players coming back hasn't done ish for us. We are horrible.

We need real coaches. Real coaching is more important than hanging out with Jon Vilma while you do bicep curls. For ***** sake the man has zero redeeming qualities and a ton of red flags. He's the most important coach on the staff outside of the HC.
 
"Swasey is the death blow to Golden's tenure" LMAO!! And U call yourself Goldenshower?? The irony is immense. So Golden failed as our coach and is a .500 career coach because of Swasey. U don't have to "defend Swasey" to know that sentiment is a complete farce and deflection. I don't believe that he should've retained Swasey if he felt as if our team waas so poorly conditioned and weak as he stated upon being hired. That makes zero sense. Also, I wasn't even thinking of u when I made my post. Projecting doesn't work either.
 
"Swasey is the death blow to Golden's tenure" LMAO!! And U call yourself Goldenshower?? The irony is immense. So Golden failed as our coach and is a .500 career coach because of Swasey. U don't have to "defend Swasey" to know that sentiment is a complete farce and deflection. I don't believe that he should've retained Swasey if he felt as if our team waas so poorly conditioned and weak as he stated upon being hired. That makes zero sense. Also, I wasn't even thinking of u when I made my post. Projecting doesn't work either.

I said that b/c it was my opinion, and I was correct, that Golden not replacing Swasey meant that he didn't know what he was doing.

Just like Randy kept him. Every elite HC to take over a major program has replaced the S&C staff immediately. When Al didn't replace Swasey, who had been through two failed regimes with players who break down at the end of the year, it was a TERRIBLE sign.

Golden failed b/c he's a terrible coach. And part of being terrible is that he hired guys like Coley, D'Onofrio, and Swasey.
 
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