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DMoney said:
The Franchise said:
Bad chicken to cut one of the guys who outperformed Perry from the QB competition no matter how much people want Perry to win the job.

That's not winning the job anyway. That's engineering the result you're hoping for. If that's the actual approach then they should just give Perry the job and eliminate the ruse of a competition.

Dropping guys from the competition who outperformed him is a great way to lose the team.
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Richt knows what he has with Rosier and Shirreffs. As he said in the press conference, there is not much left to learn with those two.

Pick the veteran you like better, drop the other guy and give reps to the freshman who can potentially change your season.
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This makes total sense. Rosier and Shirreffs are what they are at this point. Pick one as the front runner and let him split reps with Perry.
 
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KWConch said:
Richt hands him the back up job without him earning it and he takes the chance of causing a rift among the players.It shows guys that have been there busting their azzes for a year or two that they might lose their spot because some kid has more hype than them coming out of HS

I know Richt wants Perry to win the job.Hes made that abundantly clear for 6-8 months now.But if he hasn't earned the spot I just don't see how he's just handed it.

This kid might have all the talent in the world but even those type kids need to come in and prove how good they are by their play.not by their potential.

As was pointed out there's been time after time that a kid that was all world in HS bombs when he steps up in class.Perry might have all the potential in the world but potential means you ain't done it yet.Not saying Perry won't turn into an AA but as of right now unless the reports we are getting are false he needs a lot more time to prove it.

We need to play the kid that Has shown through practices,cause that all you have to go on at this point,gives us the best chance to win.Perry might prove at some point to be that guy but from all reports he's not that guy yet.

I'm not for awarding guy a spot off his HS numbers or tape.But I trust Richt to do the best thing for the team.I just hope him wanting Perry to win the job doesn't cause a problem with the players if he hasn't earned the spot.
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You honestly think players would be up in arms if Malik was 3rd on the depth chart.....really.... after the 15+ golden guys we already gave walking papers. C'mon man.
 
Salt said:
GoonCane305 said:
It's well known Richt want Perry to Start. A big reason why? He can sell Perry to the fanbase. Fans love freshmen that can come in and compete for the starting job. You can't sell Rosier or Sheriffs to the fans, since they've been on campus previously. At the same time, if Perry isn't ready, find the guy you want between the upperclassmen for the quarterback position. I think it'll be a very tight race and whoever Richt name, I'll be ready to ride with him.
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winning sells.
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Of course it does, but then again no one gets excited for a noodle arm and a turnover prone QB.
 
This is more about D$ not wanting to be wrong.

Not the first time. Won't be the last.
 
Canesfan1899 said:
ILCane2011 said:
sfowler06 said:
I just want the best man for the job. If Perry gets it and "fails", yall gon turn on him just like yall did with Kaaya....
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This. If Perry is actually in the Top 2 then great.

Dmoney is literally calling for Perry to be handed a top-2 spot, something that goes completely against the way Richt runs his program.

Don't hand Perry anything. Make him earn it. If he's as good as Dmoney is saying, that shouldn't be an issue
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Jeebus some of you need reading comprehension lessons. He was saying that the Perry, like and young qb needs more reps to improve. The coaches already know what they have in rosier and Sheiriffs so you take the guy out of those 2 you like better and you give them reps with Perry and see where you are.


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So you guys think Rick is goofy enough to think veteran QBs can't improve even though both Rosier and Shirreffs are playing much better than they did in the spring? Is this the "reading comprehension" we need to bone up on?
 
The Franchise said:
brock said:
So based on some logic on here , **** the 10 practices before the scrimmage since thats all that matters right?
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Keep pounding that goofy new mantra about running around in shorts being more significant in judging a QB than live game-like situations. It's gonna catch on. This will be the new mantra despite most of the guy's parroting it having not seen a single practice that Perry supposedly won.

Keep in mind that Kaaya supposedly looked like Johnny Unitas in fall practices last year. Then, after the season ended, Rick packed his bags for him.
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The same people claiming Kaaya was Unitas are the same people trying to justify Perry based on closed practices.
 
The Franchise said:
DMoney said:
The Franchise said:
You're parsing press conference words to justify a preposterous idea.
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Richt said he hoped to pick between Rosier and Shirreffs at the end of spring. Now he's had ten practices and a scrimmage to cement his opinion. He knows what he has there.
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You're spinning it better than Perry right now. Rick has been consistent in saying he hoped Rosier or Shirreffs would separate from each other. Now, you're bridging that gap to assume he meant that if they didn't separate from each other that he'll drop one behind Perry despite both outperforming Perry.
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Millenials, dude. Want to give it to someone who hasn't earned it because "he's the future." No point arguing with people who don't believe in meritocracy.
 
Canesfan1899 said:
ILCane2011 said:
sfowler06 said:
I just want the best man for the job. If Perry gets it and "fails", yall gon turn on him just like yall did with Kaaya....
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This. If Perry is actually in the Top 2 then great.

Dmoney is literally calling for Perry to be handed a top-2 spot, something that goes completely against the way Richt runs his program.

Don't hand Perry anything. Make him earn it. If he's as good as Dmoney is saying, that shouldn't be an issue
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Jeebus some of you need reading comprehension lessons. He was saying that the Perry, like and young qb needs more reps to improve. The coaches already know what they have in rosier and Sheiriffs so you take the guy out of those 2 you like better and you give them reps with Perry and see where you are.


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We get it. It still is just as dumb as when he wrote it the first time. If Perry was simply a guy behind an established starter then let him get extra reps. He isn't. He's in a competition. DMoney is suggesting removing a player that performed better than Perry from the competition to smooth the road for his chosen one.
 
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AaronRodgersJewBeard said:
This is more about D$ not wanting to be wrong.

Not the first time. Won't be the last.
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Kaaya the Messiah and Treon Harris approve this message. Ramrodding Kaaya down our throats and proclaiming him elite is what had so many turn on the kid last year. That and being shook against FAU.
 
I gave up on Perry starting the minute I found out he wasn't enrolling early. No way that kid is going to be ready.
 
GoonCane305 said:
It's well known Richt want Perry to Start. A big reason why? He can sell Perry to the fanbase. Fans love freshmen that can come in and compete for the starting job. You can't sell Rosier or Sheriffs to the fans, since they've been on campus previously. At the same time, if Perry isn't ready, find the guy you want between the upperclassmen for the quarterback position. I think it'll be a very tight race and whoever Richt name, I'll be ready to ride with him.
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Richt does not give a **** about selling a QB to the fanbase.

a) he has all the credit in the bank already. There's so much goodwill around how he's started that he can afford a stumble. b) the fanbase only cares about wins. He'll start the guy who gives us the best chance to do that.
 
I just don't think it is realistic to believe that Richt is going to remove Perry from the race after just one scrimmage, regardless of whether or not he ends up being the guy!
 
All reason and common sense has left the board because a certain QB is favored.

Whoever performs the best is who your QB should be. You don't put someone in because you think they might get better over time.

I honestly don't care who it is, as long as it's the guy that gives you the best chance to win. And right now, that doesn't look like Perry to me. That could change in the upcoming scrimmages and practices, so I'm going to let it play out obviously.

But at the end of the day, you put the guy that's winning the scrimmages in there, because that's the closest thing you have to a game. Otherwise, why have scrimmages?
 
Next question: When does Rick stop coaching Perry because, according to the fans, veteran QBs max out quickly? Shirreffs is already incapable of improving as a RS Soph.
 
DMoney said:
ILCane2011 said:
That doesn't mean Perry is the better choice right now. There's so much more that goes into playing QB than just having the better arm or better legs.

Rosier and Sherrifs were far better in the scrimmage and actually give us a chance vs FSU. Starting Perry vs FSU would be the equivalent of handing a forfeit note to the ref.
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The FSU game is 5 weeks away. As Richt said in his presser, the young QBs can improve exponentially while the veteran QBs will only make incremental improvements. Still a lot of football left to be played.

By the way, Rosier has thrown more picks this camp than Shirreffs and Perry combined. I'm not sure which one of those three is most ready to play FSU because they have one game of combined starting experience between them.
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If that's the case I'd make Shirreffs and Perry my top two, Rosier has had plenty of time to get better and he hasn't. Gotta find a #1 soon.
 
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The entire Bucs organization wanted Aguayo to win the kicking job. That means nothing when the guy can't deliver.

From what I saw of Perry in high school he's not ready to be a day 1 freshman starter at a Power-5 program. His pocket fundamentals, timing and rhythm aren't there yet to dependably run an offense. ACC football is bigger than sandbox pitch and catch. 3 years from now the state of the program will be such that kids like Perry are obvious redshirt candidates before they enroll. But Golden happened and Rosier is atrocious so Perry may well win the job by the end of the season.
 
CFLCane said:
KWConch said:
Richt hands him the back up job without him earning it and he takes the chance of causing a rift among the players.It shows guys that have been there busting their azzes for a year or two that they might lose their spot because some kid has more hype than them coming out of HS

I know Richt wants Perry to win the job.Hes made that abundantly clear for 6-8 months now.But if he hasn't earned the spot I just don't see how he's just handed it.

This kid might have all the talent in the world but even those type kids need to come in and prove how good they are by their play.not by their potential.

As was pointed out there's been time after time that a kid that was all world in HS bombs when he steps up in class.Perry might have all the potential in the world but potential means you ain't done it yet.Not saying Perry won't turn into an AA but as of right now unless the reports we are getting are false he needs a lot more time to prove it.

We need to play the kid that Has shown through practices,cause that all you have to go on at this point,gives us the best chance to win.Perry might prove at some point to be that guy but from all reports he's not that guy yet.

I'm not for awarding guy a spot off his HS numbers or tape.But I trust Richt to do the best thing for the team.I just hope him wanting Perry to win the job doesn't cause a problem with the players if he hasn't earned the spot.
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You honestly think players would be up in arms if Malik was 3rd on the depth chart.....really.... after the 15+ golden guys we already gave walking papers. C'mon man.
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This has absolutely nothing to do with Malik being third string and everything to do with a kid being handed a spot off of what he did in HS cause he hasn't shown yet that he deserves it in practice.

And do I think kids would be " up in arms" about a kid being handed a spot he hasn't earned while they are out there busting their *** to earn theirs ..yes I do.Have you ever been a part of a team?

And WTF does this have to do with the 15+ golden girls that have been run off? We aren't talking about some 4th string scrub.we are talking about the only QB on the team that has ANY game experience at all and from all accounts is running neck and neck with Sheriffs for the starting job.

No one is talking about handing him a spot.Hes out there earning earning it from the reports we've been given.

If Perry steps up his game and proves he's the best of the 3 then he deserves the spot.So far he hasn't.
 
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