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frankly i don't care whether they are happy or not at this point but your post is nonsense. better they should live in Jonesboro Arkansas or some Podunk town in the middle of nowhere.

What about Miami not appealing to everyone is "nonsense"?
****, years ago one of the reasons cited for Saban leaving the Phins was his wife "hated" Miami.
the part about Miami personifying the nice place to visit but wouldn't want to live there. that's nonsense especially if you're husband earns a few million a year and you live in coral gables which happens to be a beautiful place to live.

Not once you factor in the people. Venture out to other metro areas around the country and you'll see Miami has serious issues.

You do get why making a broad brush statement devaluing the people, as a whole, of an entire city might bother people of that city and people that enjoy living in that city and take pride in that city, right?

As my boy Ralph Waldo Emerson once said: "People do not seem to realize that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character."

Well then there's a lot of people with ****** character and FWIW do yourself a favor and ask around about the national opinion of Miami.
I didn't create what Miami is, the people did.
 
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This CaneInAlsAssh0le dude thinks that if he keeps repeating that it's exceedingly rare to fire a guy before he corches 5 years that it will become fact.

No incompetent buffoon gets 5 years these days at major programs. There's too much on the line these days to allow a buffoon to destroy a program for 5 years hoping he'll suddenly and magically get it. You know very quickly if a HC has what it takes or not to run a major marquee program.

I guess when you can't have a legit discussion, might as well call the other guy a name.

It is exceedingly rare. That's fact. Nothing you've shown contradicts that.
 
What about Miami not appealing to everyone is "nonsense"?
****, years ago one of the reasons cited for Saban leaving the Phins was his wife "hated" Miami.
the part about Miami personifying the nice place to visit but wouldn't want to live there. that's nonsense especially if you're husband earns a few million a year and you live in coral gables which happens to be a beautiful place to live.

Not once you factor in the people. Venture out to other metro areas around the country and you'll see Miami has serious issues.

You do get why making a broad brush statement devaluing the people, as a whole, of an entire city might bother people of that city and people that enjoy living in that city and take pride in that city, right?

As my boy Ralph Waldo Emerson once said: "People do not seem to realize that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character."

Well then there's a lot of people with ****ty character and FWIW do yourself a favor and ask around about the national opinion of Miami.
I didn't create what Miami is, the people did.

Where are you from and have you ever lived in Miami? Don't you know they hate us because they are jealous?
 
the part about Miami personifying the nice place to visit but wouldn't want to live there. that's nonsense especially if you're husband earns a few million a year and you live in coral gables which happens to be a beautiful place to live.

Not once you factor in the people. Venture out to other metro areas around the country and you'll see Miami has serious issues.

You do get why making a broad brush statement devaluing the people, as a whole, of an entire city might bother people of that city and people that enjoy living in that city and take pride in that city, right?

As my boy Ralph Waldo Emerson once said: "People do not seem to realize that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character."

Well then there's a lot of people with ****ty character and FWIW do yourself a favor and ask around about the national opinion of Miami.
I didn't create what Miami is, the people did.

Where are you from and have you ever lived in Miami? Don't you know they hate us because they are jealous?

That's a joke...right? jealous of what? the humidity, the 60 days a year it's not brutal trying to do anything outside, the traffic, the banana republic politics, the total disregard and lack of any type of civility towards other people.

I'm being somewhat facetious, my point was Miami appeals to a certain type of person.
 
Not once you factor in the people. Venture out to other metro areas around the country and you'll see Miami has serious issues.

You do get why making a broad brush statement devaluing the people, as a whole, of an entire city might bother people of that city and people that enjoy living in that city and take pride in that city, right?

As my boy Ralph Waldo Emerson once said: "People do not seem to realize that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character."

Well then there's a lot of people with ****ty character and FWIW do yourself a favor and ask around about the national opinion of Miami.
I didn't create what Miami is, the people did.

Where are you from and have you ever lived in Miami? Don't you know they hate us because they are jealous?

That's a joke...right? jealous of what? the humidity, the 60 days a year it's not brutal trying to do anything outside, the traffic, the banana republic politics, the total disregard and lack of any type of civility towards other people.

I'm being somewhat facetious, my point was Miami appeals to a certain type of person.

Do you have any idea how condescending you are coming off?

You try to tongue in cheek sound civil with an undertone of total disrespect.



You seem to have a complex from a bad personal experience. That's fine. Your broad brush judgment of an entire people and way of life is bigoted and sad, though.

There are a lot of different reasons people don't like Miami. Some of it valid, some of it extremely ignorant and coming from a bad place.


****** people attract ****** people, though.
 
the part about Miami personifying the nice place to visit but wouldn't want to live there. that's nonsense especially if you're husband earns a few million a year and you live in coral gables which happens to be a beautiful place to live.

Not once you factor in the people. Venture out to other metro areas around the country and you'll see Miami has serious issues.

You do get why making a broad brush statement devaluing the people, as a whole, of an entire city might bother people of that city and people that enjoy living in that city and take pride in that city, right?

As my boy Ralph Waldo Emerson once said: "People do not seem to realize that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character."

Well then there's a lot of people with ****ty character and FWIW do yourself a favor and ask around about the national opinion of Miami.
I didn't create what Miami is, the people did.

Where are you from and have you ever lived in Miami? Don't you know they hate us because they are jealous?

On the real, most folks I know from other parts of the country just don't like Miami, to the point where they move or if they come to visit, they let it be known that they are not coming back.

This city is not for everyone.

You want to know what it is - every one of those people I know have been folks from other parts of the US, most white. White Americans have a hard time with Miami.

And why don't they like it? Because everyone speaks Spanish in Miami.

They feel like Miami is in the United States, so the people should speak English. They get annoyed with the Latin culture, and with hearing Spanish spoken everywhere.

A white woman like Kelly Golden probably feels like she's living in a foreign third world country - like she went from Philly to Panama or something like that.

That's why they've started flocking to Broward/Palm/Tampa/Orlando instead of Miami. White flight lol. The only exception is ****** Americans, but I'm talking your white, middle-class, regular average American doesn't normally like Miami very much.

I'm just relaying what I've heard.... I personally love Miami more than any other city in America. But I also like Latin culture. Most Americans don't.
 
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Not once you factor in the people. Venture out to other metro areas around the country and you'll see Miami has serious issues.

You do get why making a broad brush statement devaluing the people, as a whole, of an entire city might bother people of that city and people that enjoy living in that city and take pride in that city, right?

As my boy Ralph Waldo Emerson once said: "People do not seem to realize that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character."

Well then there's a lot of people with ****ty character and FWIW do yourself a favor and ask around about the national opinion of Miami.
I didn't create what Miami is, the people did.

Where are you from and have you ever lived in Miami? Don't you know they hate us because they are jealous?

On the real, most folks I know from other parts of the country just don't like Miami, to the point where they move or if they come to visit, they let it be known that they are not coming back.

This city is not for everyone.

You want to know what it is - every one of those people I know have been folks from other parts of the US, most white. White Americans have a hard time with Miami.

And why don't they like it? Because everyone speaks Spanish in Miami.

They feel like Miami is in the United States, so the people should speak English. They get annoyed with the Latin culture, and with hearing Spanish spoken everywhere.

A white woman like Kelly Golden probably feels like she's living in a foreign third world country - like she went from Philly to Panama or something like that.

That's why they've started flocking to Broward/Palm/Tampa/Orlando instead of Miami. White flight lol. The only exception is ****** Americans, but I'm talking your white, middle-class, regular average American doesn't normally like Miami very much.

I'm just relaying what I've heard.... I personally love Miami more than any other city in America. But I also like Latin culture. Most Americans don't.


It's not just the language; that's kind of a cop-out.

There's a perception (whether true or not) that South florida is full of rude, narcissistic, fake people...think Nevin Shapiro, for example.

There's also a perception that South Florida is a ****** sports town--as witnessed by all the empty seats at UM, Heat, Dolphins, and Marlins games, despite multiple titles among the sports.
 
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Look, dude...the facts are that it's exceedingly rare for a guy with no losing seasons and no controversies to be fired before year 5.

I agree that Golden should be gone. I don't want him back next year...but the industry standard seems to be 5 years, unless you have a losing season or some controversy. You've shown nothing that disputes that.


You've created an arbitrary standard with narrow parameters.

I could just as easily say how many coaches at major programs got a fifth season despite no 10-win seasons, no bowl wins, no conference titles and no division titles with well over a dozen NFL draftees on his teams? His "best" win is against 9-3 Duke.

Five years is not a standard. Four years is plenty of time for a good coach to turn over the roster and exhibit signs that the program is headed in the right direction.

We are not #TrendingUp.


I haven't created the standard. I've simply looked at the list of coaches who have been fired over the last decade or so and noticed common themes.

I've already provided several instances of coaches who've gotten more than 5 seasons without a 10-win season.


DiNardo, Weis, Goff, and Donnan all had 10-win seasons.

Davie didn't, but got Notre Dame to a BCS bowl game with 9 wins (would've won 10 with an additional cupcake, but that was back when the 11-game schedule was standard).

Nutt and Bowden didn't win 10, but they both won bowl games (Nutt played for a couple SEC titles), and I'd hardly call those schools "major" programs at the time. They had both been dormant for a long time.


If you want to bring up that crap, then we could say that Golden won the Coastal and would have gone to the ACC gamp game if not for our NCAA troubles.

Look, the fact still remains that it's exceedingly rare for a coach not to get 5 years if he's had no losing seasons and no controversy.

You can't because UNC should have won it because they beat us and had the better record. He has done NOTHING.
 
A few things..

1) The inside info is always appreciated whether its true or not. I do believe that his wife aint happy. Her husband prob cant go to the store without a bodyguard and all you hear on talk radio is how much people want him out of here on the first thing smokin, and how much of a bum he is. No woman would want her husband to go through this. And im sure she knew how close there were to getting the heck out of here and going back to PSU. That probably burns her too.

2) I do believe it is more complicated then what we are making it out to be BUT since they fired Randys a$$ within one hour of the conclusion of the USFgame I am not understanding what the ***** the problem is here...Maybe they realized last time that cutting the chord on Randy without even ironing out the details wasn't a good idea or something so they are trying to be more calculated this time. BOO HOO!! The program is on life support right now and they don't make a move...this thing will be dead next year.

3) Gotta love Hurricane Basketball right now and you are a bytch if you refuse to support them just because you hate the football team trying to make some dumb statement that you will not support anything associated with the O&G. Those boys are ballin' and it makes me feel good knowing that SOMEBODY knows how to coach around Coral Gables. It aint rocket science Al! You can learn a thing or two from Jim.

4) No place in the USA like Miami/South Florida other then San Diego. If you don't like it down here then there is something wrong with YOU.

I guess there's something wrong with me. I'm not sure I'd want to live there again. It's the people, not the place.
 
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You do get why making a broad brush statement devaluing the people, as a whole, of an entire city might bother people of that city and people that enjoy living in that city and take pride in that city, right?

As my boy Ralph Waldo Emerson once said: "People do not seem to realize that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character."

Well then there's a lot of people with ****ty character and FWIW do yourself a favor and ask around about the national opinion of Miami.
I didn't create what Miami is, the people did.

Where are you from and have you ever lived in Miami? Don't you know they hate us because they are jealous?

On the real, most folks I know from other parts of the country just don't like Miami, to the point where they move or if they come to visit, they let it be known that they are not coming back.

This city is not for everyone.

You want to know what it is - every one of those people I know have been folks from other parts of the US, most white. White Americans have a hard time with Miami.

And why don't they like it? Because everyone speaks Spanish in Miami.

They feel like Miami is in the United States, so the people should speak English. They get annoyed with the Latin culture, and with hearing Spanish spoken everywhere.

A white woman like Kelly Golden probably feels like she's living in a foreign third world country - like she went from Philly to Panama or something like that.

That's why they've started flocking to Broward/Palm/Tampa/Orlando instead of Miami. White flight lol. The only exception is ****** Americans, but I'm talking your white, middle-class, regular average American doesn't normally like Miami very much.

I'm just relaying what I've heard.... I personally love Miami more than any other city in America. But I also like Latin culture. Most Americans don't.


It's not just the language; that's kind of a cop-out.

There's a perception (whether true or not) that South florida is full of rude, narcissistic, fake people...think Nevin Shapiro, for example.

There's also a perception that South Florida is a ****ty sports town--as witnessed by all the empty seats at UM, Heat, Dolphins, and Marlins games, despite multiple titles among the sports.

That's because we have too many dumb ******* "fans" in North Carolina who make excuses for a flat blob of a head coach.
 
Well then there's a lot of people with ****ty character and FWIW do yourself a favor and ask around about the national opinion of Miami.
I didn't create what Miami is, the people did.

Where are you from and have you ever lived in Miami? Don't you know they hate us because they are jealous?

On the real, most folks I know from other parts of the country just don't like Miami, to the point where they move or if they come to visit, they let it be known that they are not coming back.

This city is not for everyone.

You want to know what it is - every one of those people I know have been folks from other parts of the US, most white. White Americans have a hard time with Miami.

And why don't they like it? Because everyone speaks Spanish in Miami.

They feel like Miami is in the United States, so the people should speak English. They get annoyed with the Latin culture, and with hearing Spanish spoken everywhere.

A white woman like Kelly Golden probably feels like she's living in a foreign third world country - like she went from Philly to Panama or something like that.

That's why they've started flocking to Broward/Palm/Tampa/Orlando instead of Miami. White flight lol. The only exception is ****** Americans, but I'm talking your white, middle-class, regular average American doesn't normally like Miami very much.

I'm just relaying what I've heard.... I personally love Miami more than any other city in America. But I also like Latin culture. Most Americans don't.


It's not just the language; that's kind of a cop-out.

There's a perception (whether true or not) that South florida is full of rude, narcissistic, fake people...think Nevin Shapiro, for example.

There's also a perception that South Florida is a ****ty sports town--as witnessed by all the empty seats at UM, Heat, Dolphins, and Marlins games, despite multiple titles among the sports.

That's because we have too many dumb ******* "fans" in North Carolina who make excuses for a flat blob of a head coach.

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Well then there's a lot of people with ****ty character and FWIW do yourself a favor and ask around about the national opinion of Miami.
I didn't create what Miami is, the people did.

Where are you from and have you ever lived in Miami? Don't you know they hate us because they are jealous?

On the real, most folks I know from other parts of the country just don't like Miami, to the point where they move or if they come to visit, they let it be known that they are not coming back.

This city is not for everyone.

You want to know what it is - every one of those people I know have been folks from other parts of the US, most white. White Americans have a hard time with Miami.

And why don't they like it? Because everyone speaks Spanish in Miami.

They feel like Miami is in the United States, so the people should speak English. They get annoyed with the Latin culture, and with hearing Spanish spoken everywhere.

A white woman like Kelly Golden probably feels like she's living in a foreign third world country - like she went from Philly to Panama or something like that.

That's why they've started flocking to Broward/Palm/Tampa/Orlando instead of Miami. White flight lol. The only exception is ****** Americans, but I'm talking your white, middle-class, regular average American doesn't normally like Miami very much.

I'm just relaying what I've heard.... I personally love Miami more than any other city in America. But I also like Latin culture. Most Americans don't.


It's not just the language; that's kind of a cop-out.

There's a perception (whether true or not) that South florida is full of rude, narcissistic, fake people...think Nevin Shapiro, for example.

There's also a perception that South Florida is a ****ty sports town--as witnessed by all the empty seats at UM, Heat, Dolphins, and Marlins games, despite multiple titles among the sports.

That's because we have too many dumb ******* "fans" in North Carolina who make excuses for a flat blob of a head coach.

No...it's because we've got a bunch of illiterate ******* retards such as yourself.as "fans."
 
Where are you from and have you ever lived in Miami? Don't you know they hate us because they are jealous?

On the real, most folks I know from other parts of the country just don't like Miami, to the point where they move or if they come to visit, they let it be known that they are not coming back.

This city is not for everyone.

You want to know what it is - every one of those people I know have been folks from other parts of the US, most white. White Americans have a hard time with Miami.

And why don't they like it? Because everyone speaks Spanish in Miami.

They feel like Miami is in the United States, so the people should speak English. They get annoyed with the Latin culture, and with hearing Spanish spoken everywhere.

A white woman like Kelly Golden probably feels like she's living in a foreign third world country - like she went from Philly to Panama or something like that.

That's why they've started flocking to Broward/Palm/Tampa/Orlando instead of Miami. White flight lol. The only exception is ****** Americans, but I'm talking your white, middle-class, regular average American doesn't normally like Miami very much.

I'm just relaying what I've heard.... I personally love Miami more than any other city in America. But I also like Latin culture. Most Americans don't.


It's not just the language; that's kind of a cop-out.

There's a perception (whether true or not) that South florida is full of rude, narcissistic, fake people...think Nevin Shapiro, for example.

There's also a perception that South Florida is a ****ty sports town--as witnessed by all the empty seats at UM, Heat, Dolphins, and Marlins games, despite multiple titles among the sports.

That's because we have too many dumb ****ing "fans" in North Carolina who make excuses for a flat blob of a head coach.

No...it's because we've got a bunch of illiterate ****ing retards such as yourself.as "fans."

I'm so illiterate that you completely comprehended my porst, based on your proud display of butthurt. Good job. Stick to UNC football or something you soft loser.
 
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On the real, most folks I know from other parts of the country just don't like Miami, to the point where they move or if they come to visit, they let it be known that they are not coming back.

This city is not for everyone.

You want to know what it is - every one of those people I know have been folks from other parts of the US, most white. White Americans have a hard time with Miami.

And why don't they like it? Because everyone speaks Spanish in Miami.

They feel like Miami is in the United States, so the people should speak English. They get annoyed with the Latin culture, and with hearing Spanish spoken everywhere.

A white woman like Kelly Golden probably feels like she's living in a foreign third world country - like she went from Philly to Panama or something like that.

That's why they've started flocking to Broward/Palm/Tampa/Orlando instead of Miami. White flight lol. The only exception is ****** Americans, but I'm talking your white, middle-class, regular average American doesn't normally like Miami very much.

I'm just relaying what I've heard.... I personally love Miami more than any other city in America. But I also like Latin culture. Most Americans don't.


It's not just the language; that's kind of a cop-out.

There's a perception (whether true or not) that South florida is full of rude, narcissistic, fake people...think Nevin Shapiro, for example.

There's also a perception that South Florida is a ****ty sports town--as witnessed by all the empty seats at UM, Heat, Dolphins, and Marlins games, despite multiple titles among the sports.

That's because we have too many dumb ****ing "fans" in North Carolina who make excuses for a flat blob of a head coach.

No...it's because we've got a bunch of illiterate ****ing retards such as yourself.as "fans."

I'm so illiterate that you completely comprehended my porst, based on your proud display of butthurt. Good job. Stick to UNC football or something you soft loser.

You're illiterate because you apparently believe that I've defended Golden...when that's a figment of your illiterate ******* imagination, you illiterate ****
 
You do get why making a broad brush statement devaluing the people, as a whole, of an entire city might bother people of that city and people that enjoy living in that city and take pride in that city, right?

As my boy Ralph Waldo Emerson once said: "People do not seem to realize that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character."

Well then there's a lot of people with ****ty character and FWIW do yourself a favor and ask around about the national opinion of Miami.
I didn't create what Miami is, the people did.

Where are you from and have you ever lived in Miami? Don't you know they hate us because they are jealous?

On the real, most folks I know from other parts of the country just don't like Miami, to the point where they move or if they come to visit, they let it be known that they are not coming back.

This city is not for everyone.

You want to know what it is - every one of those people I know have been folks from other parts of the US, most white. White Americans have a hard time with Miami.

And why don't they like it? Because everyone speaks Spanish in Miami.

They feel like Miami is in the United States, so the people should speak English. They get annoyed with the Latin culture, and with hearing Spanish spoken everywhere.

A white woman like Kelly Golden probably feels like she's living in a foreign third world country - like she went from Philly to Panama or something like that.

That's why they've started flocking to Broward/Palm/Tampa/Orlando instead of Miami. White flight lol. The only exception is ****** Americans, but I'm talking your white, middle-class, regular average American doesn't normally like Miami very much.

I'm just relaying what I've heard.... I personally love Miami more than any other city in America. But I also like Latin culture. Most Americans don't.


It's not just the language; that's kind of a cop-out.

There's a perception (whether true or not) that South florida is full of rude, narcissistic, fake people...think Nevin Shapiro, for example.

There's also a perception that South Florida is a ****ty sports town--as witnessed by all the empty seats at UM, Heat, Dolphins, and Marlins games, despite multiple titles among the sports.

It's not a ****** sports town, there's just a difference in Latin American and North American culture. Look at Brazil and Argentina.... soccer games are NEVER packed, people show up late, people jump on the winning bandwagon.... just like in Miami.

But I don't think anyone would say that Brazilians and Argentinans are not passionate about their soccer. It's just a different, more lax culture.

You're not going to pack 100k latinos in to soldier field on a 2 degree December night to cheer on a football team - only crazy gringos would do that. White middle America shows up to games. that's why Nebraska has sold out like 60 years in a row their home games.
 
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It's not just the language; that's kind of a cop-out.

There's a perception (whether true or not) that South florida is full of rude, narcissistic, fake people...think Nevin Shapiro, for example.

There's also a perception that South Florida is a ****ty sports town--as witnessed by all the empty seats at UM, Heat, Dolphins, and Marlins games, despite multiple titles among the sports.

That's because we have too many dumb ****ing "fans" in North Carolina who make excuses for a flat blob of a head coach.

No...it's because we've got a bunch of illiterate ****ing retards such as yourself.as "fans."

I'm so illiterate that you completely comprehended my porst, based on your proud display of butthurt. Good job. Stick to UNC football or something you soft loser.

You're illiterate because you apparently believe that I've defended Golden...when that's a figment of your illiterate ****ing imagination, you illiterate ****

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Gotta love the Golden Girls trying to hide their shameful history.
 
Well then there's a lot of people with ****ty character and FWIW do yourself a favor and ask around about the national opinion of Miami.
I didn't create what Miami is, the people did.

Where are you from and have you ever lived in Miami? Don't you know they hate us because they are jealous?

On the real, most folks I know from other parts of the country just don't like Miami, to the point where they move or if they come to visit, they let it be known that they are not coming back.

This city is not for everyone.

You want to know what it is - every one of those people I know have been folks from other parts of the US, most white. White Americans have a hard time with Miami.

And why don't they like it? Because everyone speaks Spanish in Miami.

They feel like Miami is in the United States, so the people should speak English. They get annoyed with the Latin culture, and with hearing Spanish spoken everywhere.

A white woman like Kelly Golden probably feels like she's living in a foreign third world country - like she went from Philly to Panama or something like that.

That's why they've started flocking to Broward/Palm/Tampa/Orlando instead of Miami. White flight lol. The only exception is ****** Americans, but I'm talking your white, middle-class, regular average American doesn't normally like Miami very much.

I'm just relaying what I've heard.... I personally love Miami more than any other city in America. But I also like Latin culture. Most Americans don't.


It's not just the language; that's kind of a cop-out.

There's a perception (whether true or not) that South florida is full of rude, narcissistic, fake people...think Nevin Shapiro, for example.

There's also a perception that South Florida is a ****ty sports town--as witnessed by all the empty seats at UM, Heat, Dolphins, and Marlins games, despite multiple titles among the sports.

It's not a ****** sports town, there's just a difference in Latin American and North American culture. Look at Brazil and Argentina.... soccer games are NEVER packed, people show up late, people jump on the winning bandwagon.... just like in Miami.

But I don't think anyone would say that Brazilians and Argentinans are not passionate about their soccer. It's just a different, more lax culture.

But Miami's not in Latin America. It's in North America. And in comparison to other North American cities, Miami is a ****** sports city.

--The Cubs have better attendance than the Marlins, despite the fact that the Marlins are two-time champs.
--The Fins have the worst (or near the worst) attendance figures in the NFL. This includes teams like the Texans, who have worse records over the course of the last few years.
--UM can't fill its stadium regularly even in the best of years.

Even apart from attendance figures, the fact is that Miami is full of people who are fans of other teams. There are more Yankees fans in Miami than Marlins fans. More UF/FSU fans than UM fans. More Giants/Jets/Pats fans than Dolphin fans. More Knicks, Bulls, Celtics, and Lakers fans than hardcore Heat fans (pre-Lebron).
 
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