duke4heisman
Let's go Brandon!
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Watch his film and get back to me. He was a 5* 2nd DT QB in the country (on the National Championship team) for a reasonDumb!
Watch his film and get back to me. He was a 5* 2nd DT QB in the country (on the National Championship team) for a reasonDumb!
Lol...Yeah...I need someone to break down UM FB or CFB for me....
So you're a star ***** too!? I'll pass.....what you do for me now is what matters.Watch his film and get back to me. He was a 5* 2nd DT QB in the country (on the National Championship team) for a reason
I'm not a star *****, I watch film. Including while he was at taint and what I saw was an elite play maker. Enos is changing what he has known all his life, there's a reason why he immediately looked like himself again when Enos put him in the shotgun and let him do his thing.So you're a star ***** too!? I'll pass.....what you do for me now is what matters.
I agree and from what I've seen, Tate does exactly that. I'm not discounting the other QBs as I believe they are very talented. However, Tate can do all those things at an elite level and with our OL, we desperately need it.When will you guys learn that a QB’s ability to run fast is useless relative to getting sacked? The most athletic QBs in the history of the NFL are also the guys who got sacked the most often during single seasons. Check the facts.
Avoiding sacks is all about processing information quickly, getting the ball out quickly, and having a sixth sense to feel pressure in the pocket and make subtle moves to avoid it while keeping your eyes up. It’s got almost nothing to do with the ability to run fast.
When will you guys learn that a QB’s ability to run fast is useless relative to getting sacked? The most athletic QBs in the history of the NFL are also the guys who got sacked the most often during single seasons. Check the facts.
Avoiding sacks is all about processing information quickly, getting the ball out quickly, and having a sixth sense to feel pressure in the pocket and make subtle moves to avoid it while keeping your eyes up. It’s got almost nothing to do with the ability to run fast.
His ability to run will set him apart.
Starting QB against Floriduh on 8/24
When will you guys learn that a QB’s ability to run fast is useless relative to getting sacked? The most athletic QBs in the history of the NFL are also the guys who got sacked the most often during single seasons. Check the facts.
Avoiding sacks is all about processing information quickly, getting the ball out quickly, and having a sixth sense to feel pressure in the pocket and make subtle moves to avoid it while keeping your eyes up. It’s got almost nothing to do with the ability to run fast.
Those guys had All World OLs...Marino had the Greatest release in NFL History....Its all about Pocket presence....Marino..Brady and Manning, athough Sloths...had not only remarkable Pocket Presence..but ridiculous feet in the Pocket...Great point, and some of the most unathletic QBs like Marino, Brady and Manning, for years were among the least sacked because they understood protections, where pressure would be coming from and a great internal clock that told them just when the ball had to be out of their hands. These guys all understood that there was actually more safety in the pocket, the belly of the beast, than running around like many 'mobile' QBs....
preach!Facts.
CIS abhors a vacuum. And right now there’s an information vacuum regarding the QBs because no one really knows what they’re up to, how hard they’re working, or studying the playbook. Therefore, people are starting to gravitate towards this or that quarterback based on no more information than we had three weeks ago. When in reality, nothing has changed as to their status.
Because as of the end of spring practice, all three were and are neck and neck. That’s not me saying this, that’s the coaches, specifically Manny and Enos.
I will not be surprised if any of the three start on August 24. I am a science and math guy, very data centric. And I can honestly say I don’t have enough data to project like others are projecting as to who the quarterback will be. Check back with me the first or second week of summer/fall practice and then I’ll have a better idea. But before then, it’s all a guessing crapshoot to me.
Additionally, that is a good distinction you made between a quarterback that is fast and has quick feet, versus a quarterback that is good at evading the rush. You don’t necessarily need to be fast to be able to avoid the rush. Everything that you said about sensing backside pressure, feeling the rush, knowing where to slide, whether upper or down, left or right, those are the things that matter much more about avoiding sacks and are key to general scrambling ability.
It wasn’t all-world OL. It was the QB having the ability to process info quickly and make subtle moves in the pocket.Those guys had All World OLs...Marino had the Greatest release in NFL History....Its all about Pocket presence....Marino..Brady and Manning, athough Sloths...had not only remarkable Pocket Presence..but ridiculous feet in the Pocket...
Auburn got to a national championship with a converted CB (Nick Marshall) as their QB. Tate is a far better QB than he is.It wasn’t all-world OL. It was the QB having the ability to process info quickly and make subtle moves in the pocket.
Most QBs who run a lot aren’t very good information processors. They see their first read covered and they tuck and run. That can work ok against bad teams, but the minute you play a decent team they shut it down.
It wasn’t all-world OL. It was the QB having the ability to process info quickly and make subtle moves in the pocket.
Most QBs who run a lot aren’t very good information processors. They see their first read covered and they tuck and run. That can work ok against bad teams, but the minute you play a decent team they shut it down.
For over 15 years I have been saying the exact same thing. If Coker would have geared his offense towards the strengths of his QB(Berlin) from the get go, we very well could have been in the title game that year.Too Bad Coker didn't have the same Philosophy with Berlin...
Absolutely....If Berlin sees a Wide Open Winslow in EZ against Tenn in 03 we play for NC....For over 15 years I have been saying the exact same thing. If Coker would have geared his offense towards the strengths of his QB(Berlin) from the get go, we very well could have been in the title game that year.
It wasn’t all-world OL. It was the QB having the ability to process info quickly and make subtle moves in the pocket.
Most QBs who run a lot aren’t very good information processors. They see their first read covered and they tuck and run. That can work ok against bad teams, but the minute you play a decent team they shut it down.
Who on CIS said Tate can’t play QB!? I’ve read this whole thread and can’t find what you are talking about! Or, you just have an agenda and looking for a disagreement?!Auburn got to a national championship with a converted CB (Nick Marshall) as their QB. Tate is a far better QB than he is.
Oregon got to a national championship with Daron Thomas as their QB. Tate is a far better QB than he is.
This is CFB not the NFL.
Tate went 10/10 with 2 TDs against a defense that had the same defensive S&P ranking as Duke. We scored 12 points against Duke, Tate scored that by himself.
The more people try to act like Tate can't play QB the more I laugh. It's funny how many people don't see the writing on the wall.
Urban Meyer, a QB guru, gave this dude a scholarship. He he can play the position.