Dwinstitles
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No more mope in my body I just liked LCE post.....I'm in.
Man nobody gives a **** what he runs. His tapes screams that he makes plays and that's all we give a **** aboutI don't think King even runs a 4.5... he looks like a 4.6 guy. He's definitely not a 4.3 guy
Depends on the opponent & the tenor of the game.
NFL went spread before we did.. smfhTo me, if King can just make 5-6 plays a game with his legs, keep Miami ahead of the chains with scrambles, it will make a huge difference in extending drives and piling up plays, thus making the tempo even more effective. It's an element that the Canes have never really had. UM has had athletic QBs before in the modern era (Ryan Collins, Kenny Kelly, Malik Rosier) but never has actually made it a facet of the base offense.
We are finally in the modern era of offensive football at the college level. Spread+mobile QB+tempo....
Chise, Ive said this before, but when I went to the Gatech game in 17 (the Langham Immaculate Reception) I was on campus with Ariz, and I was blown away how it had evolved and changed from the last time I was there. Also 'the Rat', we got buzzed on beer, lol. The practice facility was just being constructed at that time. Ive said this on various podcasts I was a guest on -- who wouldn't want to be on this campus for at least a few years of their young adult life?I feel the exact same way. Most of these dudes have never been on our campus and have probably not experienced what this program looks like when it’s humming.
**** even that 10 week period a couple years ago had us front and center everywhere. Imagine what happens if we can string together 3 ten plus win seasons and some real damage in the ACC, which should be easy with a competent HC.
NFL went spread before we did.. smfh
Thats the most frustrating part about it, Erickson was like spread 1.0, maybe even beta version it was soo ahead of its time.. The berlin gaff isnt surprising looking back, those corches had Hester on the sideline with them because they used same excuse he couldnt learn their complicated offense.. Their system was soo rigid, plus the ego of winning got to them..Sky, it's interesting, but go back to 2003, the Florida comeback, it was clear that Brock was much better from 'the gun' and running a bit of tempo, right? Well, after that game, that should've been our base offense with him. We could've been ahead of the curve, right then. I mean, that's basically what Berlin ran in high school. But no, we were wed to pro-style because we were 'NFL U'.
Think about this, with Erickson in 89, he called his offense 'the Triple Shoot', but it was the first version of the spread. We were ahead of the curve. We were the first family with the DVD player. And unfortunately, we were the family that was still going to the RedBox every Friday night.
Now, we're Lashlee and Chill with our new Netflix offense.
Thats the most frustrating part about it, Erickson was like spread 1.0, maybe even beta version it was soo ahead of its time.. The berlin gaff isnt surprising looking back, those corches had Hester on the sideline with them because they used same excuse he couldnt learn their complicated offense.. Their system was soo rigid, plus the ego of winning got to them..
Hopefully we get to see this system at some point this season.. fingers crossed but not looking good..
Ole Miss & Arkansas were both after him, and had he not committed today he 100% was in discussion for LSU but they weren't in a rush to get him.
I think using that argument doesn't work because we got him due to urgency of the fact we needed him enrolled by 1/21. If we had the same enrollment date as other teams he would've taken more visits & probably wouldn't have came here.
Also, you can't judge the 2019 season because Dana Holgorsen came in & completely changed the offense, he wasn't running the same scheme that Briles ran & never got comfortable in it. The reason why Lashlee wanted him is because he knows what he can do with him in his system, if he wasn't that good Lash wouldn't be wasting his first year on a transfer QB that he doesn't think he can work wonders with.
I think you're honestly just being a contrarian just to be one, the "red flags" aren't really red flags, you're kinda just reaching for something to swing the pendulum back so that people don't get too overhyped which is understandable, but your honestly reaching my dude lol.
And the whole G5 vs P5 thing doesn apply here, we lost to two G5 teams last year & almost got beat by CMU, we're not above taking a great QB from a G5. Va Tech won games last year with an extremely mediocre QB, you don't need an elite 5-star Clemson transfer to win games in the Coastal.
We won 10 games with Malik Rosier for God sakes, who gives a fck what conference King is from lol.
As a guy who spent many years on that campus, I still think about it and miss it. It's such a special place.Chise, Ive said this before, but when I went to the Gatech game in 17 (the Langham Immaculate Reception) I was on campus with Ariz, and I was blown away how it had evolved and changed from the last time I was there. Also 'the Rat', we got buzzed on beer, lol. The practice facility was just being constructed at that time. Ive said this on various podcasts I was a guest on -- who wouldn't want to be on this campus for at least a few years of their young adult life?
Then later on that season I go to the Notre Dame game, and that's when the Rock was at it's absolute best. It was vintage Orange Bowl electricity. I said to myself, 'If we ever get this right, this is what it could be.' It fits South Florida perfectly.
And when I'm traveling to fights, I always wear my Miami Nike sweatsuit (the last year they made them) and it never fails, either Im checking in or walking through the airport terminal and I always get comments -- and what's interesting is that 99-percent of them are really positive, like, 'Hey, the U!!!' -- which I find fascinating because the best era of Hurricane football was supposedly so sinister and people hated them. But honestly, the general perception of Miami is really good and people, in my view, really appreciate what they did and the characters and entertainment they provided. I honestly dont think even the UM administration understand how strong this brand is nationally.
Win consistently and be entertaining and fun, this thing can take off. C'mon Manny, don't blow this...
No more mope in my body I just liked LCE post.....I'm in.
Even teams that are able to hoard talent at incredible levels and have had more recent success left the prostyle (Bama/saban and LSU come to mind).. To see teams like Okla, OSU, Penn St. adopt spread and speed wide open offense before us just doesnt even make sense to me..Miami used to be an innovative offensive team back when the game & the rules were completely different & the approach to the game was different. Gary Stevens & Bob Bratkowski were two very good Pro Style OC's who utilized the passing game in an era when Football was all about the Run game.
Coach Erickson was a great offensive mind for his time, before he came to Miami he was in places like San Jose St, Wyoming & Wash St where he developed his offense that was very cutting edge for its time which was right around the same time that Bill Walsh was developing the West Coast Offense at Stanford & San Fran with Mike Holmgren & Andy Reid.
Erickson was with Jack Elway (John's Dad) at San Jose St & at Fresno St, John Elway was running the very first Spread offense in High School at Granada Hills & when Erickson was at San Jose St as an OC he learned the One Back Spread from Cactus Jack Neumeier himself, that's why our Offenses looked like that with him as HC.
Since then, we've never run anything close to it, we've been nothing but Pro Style & while it worked through most of the 90's & early 00's, as the game exploded & expanded dozens of other teams evened the playing field & closed the talent gap by giving themselves a schematic advantage by continuing to develop & implement the Modern Spread offenses. We didn't, we got left behind & now we're actually behind the times...
The Pro Style offense still works, IF YOU HAVE THE PERSONNEL TO RUN IT. We don't & haven't had the personnel to run the Pro style since 02, but we simply refused to adapt & adjust, until now.
Rhett Lashlee will legitimately be the best offensive coordinator we've had since Chudzinski, even though the two of them run completely different offenses.
Yes.Chise, Ive said this before, but when I went to the Gatech game in 17 (the Langham Immaculate Reception) I was on campus with Ariz, and I was blown away how it had evolved and changed from the last time I was there. Also 'the Rat', we got buzzed on beer, lol. The practice facility was just being constructed at that time. Ive said this on various podcasts I was a guest on -- who wouldn't want to be on this campus for at least a few years of their young adult life?
Then later on that season I go to the Notre Dame game, and that's when the Rock was at it's absolute best. It was vintage Orange Bowl electricity. I said to myself, 'If we ever get this right, this is what it could be.' It fits South Florida perfectly.
And when I'm traveling to fights, I always wear my Miami Nike sweatsuit (the last year they made them) and it never fails, either Im checking in or walking through the airport terminal and I always get comments -- and what's interesting is that 99-percent of them are really positive, like, 'Hey, the U!!!' -- which I find fascinating because the best era of Hurricane football was supposedly so sinister and people hated them. But honestly, the general perception of Miami is really good and people, in my view, really appreciate what they did and the characters and entertainment they provided. I honestly dont think even the UM administration understand how strong this brand is nationally.
Win consistently and be entertaining and fun, this thing can take off. C'mon Manny, don't blow this...
Lol Georgia Tech went spread before we did and they spent the last decade running the triple option.NFL went spread before we did.. smfh