Prediction

[deleted3746]

[MENTION=2]DMoney[/MENTION]

 

[BostonCane]

Butch returning to the U = Bill Snyder returning to KSU. Get ready

 

[WhatTheHell]

If this hire came after a comprehensive nation wide search, I'd be more excited. It does not feel that way.

How does that impact your excitement? One has nothing to do with the other, am I wrong?

I'd be more ready to accept the Butch hire if I knew we held an honest search consisting of candidates outside of the "MIAMI GUYZ!" bubble.

If we aggressively pursued coaches I feel are better qualified, and failed, it would make it easier to embrace this hire. But if we simply hired Butch without exploring other options, it strikes me as lazy and a disservice to this program.

 

[The Franchise]

I guess we're supposed to believe Butch Davis is a better coach and a better fit at his old school than John Robinson, Johnny Majors and Mike Riley with Petrino still pending along with being on par with Bill Snyder. He is supposed to be the exception to the rule in this case.

None of those guys had an interim stint at UNC where they dominated the ACC like Butch did.

 

[prinmemo]

If this hire came after a comprehensive nation wide search, I'd be more excited. It does not feel that way.

Why doesn't it feel that way? We can't really know.

 

[corny cane]

After Coker, Shannon, golden we actually have people upset with a Butch return?
Ok then.

 

[Tad Footeball]

Staff Cap 6.4M Butch 1.9M + Incentives estimated to be worth an additional 640.000 & 260.000 for individual that occupies assistant HC, which leaves roughly 3.6M for coordinators/assistants.

Does 3.6M score high quality coordinator/position coaches?

Where did this come from?

Yeah seriously. This is too specific to even be considered inside info.

 

[deleted3746]

Butch returning to the U = Bill Snyder returning to KSU. Get ready

Snyder's first time at KSU has been more successful so far.

 

[deleted3746]

[MENTION=2]DMoney[/MENTION]

[MENTION=2]DMoney[/MENTION]

 

[prinmemo]

Staff Cap 6.4M Butch 1.9M + Incentives estimated to be worth an additional 640.000 & 260.000 for individual that occupies assistant HC, which leaves roughly 3.6M for coordinators/assistants.

Does 3.6M score high quality coordinator/position coaches?

That is awfully specific...

 

[jkaz1]

And Butch sounded very upbeat again on the radio show this morning....

It was funny hearing him roast some of the Big 12 teams about how they put up all the points on offense, but can't stop anyone. I think the example he gave was T Tech which is apparently dead last (120th) in defense this year....

Always defense-focused (much like me)....

Shaq just solidified his commitment to us...that's how I know it's Butch

 

[KevinCosio]

Butch returning to the U = Bill Snyder returning to KSU. Get ready

Snyder's first time at KSU has been more successful so far.

He almost played in the title game in his 2nd stint unlike his first lol.. That In itself was major.

 

[canefan]

Just praying its not Schiano at this point

 

[Hurricanemike32]

Staff Cap 6.4M Butch 1.9M + Incentives estimated to be worth an additional 640.000 & 260.000 for individual that occupies assistant HC, which leaves roughly 3.6M for coordinators/assistants.

Does 3.6M score high quality coordinator/position coaches?

Wouldn't that be less than what they gave Golden to work with?

 

[deleted3746]

Butch returning to the U = Bill Snyder returning to KSU. Get ready

Snyder's first time at KSU has been more successful so far.

He almost played in the title game in his 2nd stint unlike his first lol.. That In itself was major.

Bill Snyder, Kansas St.

1989-2005: 1 conference title, 7x 10+ win seasons, 1-1 in the Fiesta Bowl

2009-present: 1 conference title, 2x 10 win seasons, 0-1 in the Fiesta Bowl

 

[MadCane]

Any staff predictions?

Is John Shoop available?

Depends. Is there anyone else out there dumb enough to hire him?

 

[fincane]

And Butch sounded very upbeat again on the radio show this morning....

It was funny hearing him roast some of the Big 12 teams about how they put up all the points on offense, but can't stop anyone. I think the example he gave was T Tech which is apparently dead last (120th) in defense this year....

Always defense-focused (much like me)....

Shaq just solidified his commitment to us...that's how I know it's Butch

And all those Big 12 coaches would come back with, we'd never retain John Shoop for 4 years to run our offense.

 

[CANE]

I guess we're supposed to believe Butch Davis is a better coach and a better fit at his old school than John Robinson, Johnny Majors and Mike Riley with Petrino still pending along with being on par with Bill Snyder. He is supposed to be the exception to the rule in this case.

NONE have the recruiting base Butch will have.

 

[The Franchise]

Butch returning to the U = Bill Snyder returning to KSU. Get ready

Snyder's first time at KSU has been more successful so far.

He almost played in the title game in his 2nd stint unlike his first lol.. That In itself was major.

Lies.

 

[fincane]

Butch returning to the U = Bill Snyder returning to KSU. Get ready

Snyder's first time at KSU has been more successful so far.

He almost played in the title game in his 2nd stint unlike his first lol.. That In itself was major.

Bill Snyder, Kansas St.

1989-2005: 1 conference title, 7x 10+ win seasons, 1-1 in the Fiesta Bowl

2009-present: 1 conference title, 2x 10 win seasons, 0-1 in the Fiesta Bowl

So even the guy you could point to and say he was successful coming back hasn't and won't duplicate his prior glories.