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WanderFranco said:
The three best coaches in college football had


Yeah, it is a complete overhaul. Watch us play. The talent is not there.
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the talent isn’t there to beat mtsu? Who do We have a talent advantage over with our remaining schedule?
and the talent was there to beat the aggies on the road. there wasn’t an obvious talent disparity in that game, we just **** the bed in the red zone and on special teams
 
I think Mario is going to get this thing fixed.. like someone said before we sucked even in the spread offense so that’s not the end all be all solution even though it would make it easier to recruit wide receivers.

I want to see what type of adjustments they made over the bye week.. I think the fact that we lost to a team like MTSU so early could be a godsend bc the staff can’t validate or try to sugarcoat what happened on the field. Which is what we use to see from our previous coaching staffs constantly kicking the can down the line until the off-season to come off like they’re doing something to fix things.

Hopefully the more condensed offensive plays are minimized and we see more spread out formations but at the same time Mario is right in the fact that we can’t just scrap everything… the team has to get better at whatever it is they have to do to win games. And this team has too many wholes it’s going to take a couple years to really see Mario’s vision so I’m just going to ride this thing out and see…

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Miami[]_[]Smoke said:
Because the pac 12 is horrendous, especially the north. Their crossover games were Utah, Arizona, Colorado and ucla. and the win in Columbus, while a great win, was an outlier. That same coach lost to 3-9 Stanford a couple weeks later
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Typical CIS. Once you have it out for a guy, he can't do anything right. The guy had a bigger road win last year than we have had in 20 years. CIS response? "Meh, outlier. He lost to Stanford".

So let's just keep rolling through guys every 3-4 years until Kirby Smart decides to come to Miami.
 
Miami[]_[]Smoke said:
the talent isn’t there to beat mtsu? Who do We have a talent advantage over with our remaining schedule?
and the talent was there to beat the aggies on the road. there wasn’t an obvious talent disparity in that game, we just **** the bed in the red zone and on special teams
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Yes, the talent is there, which is the biggest sign that there is a culture problem.
 
WanderFranco said:
So Kirby Smart is the only acceptable coach?
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Yes. You figured out my hidden agenda. I don’t know how you did it, but you did.

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Miami[]_[]Smoke said:
I’ve also seen a lot of regression too. One improvement by the ol doesn’t Instill confidence when the rest of the team is falling apart
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These dolts never learn, brother.

We had some insiders on this board before the season started saying that Mario wasn’t waiting til year 2 or 3 to have a winning program, that he was gonna go all out to have a big season this year to boost recruiting.

Now the narrative has changed to, “we have no talent, and Mario needs 50 of his own 5-Stars” in order to beat MTSU and the rest of the juggernauts on our ACC schedule.

You can’t make this up.
 
CaneTheGaytors said:
These dolts never learn, brother.

We had some insiders on this board before the season started saying that Mario wasn’t waiting til year 2 or 3 to have a winning program, that he was gonna go all out to have a big season this year to boost recruiting.

Now the narrative has changed to, “we have no talent, and Mario needs 50 of his own 5-Stars” in order to beat MTSU and the rest of the juggernauts on our ACC schedule.

You can’t make this up.
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I agree that dolts never learn. That's why Miami message boards have continued to whine about coaching for 21 years now.

Players go 7-5, it has to be the coach. Coach is fired.
Same players start 2-2, even with a new coach, and it still has to be the coach.
 
rascon said:
Look,I know - we all see the issues we currently have. Plain to see.

But we haven’t been good in a number of years. It was never going to be an immediate turnaround,

For perspective, Nick Saban went 6-6 his first year, including losing to Louisiana-Monroe before winning a lowly bowl game. Secind year made the conference championship but lost.

The U is a bigger reclamation project, as the culture here was worse. The previous coaches were lazy with their evals and the results have shown. it’s going to take a minute to cleans the team of those players. Even with the portal.

i honestly don’t care about w/l record this year. I want to see signs of improvement. I have seen that with the lines. I want to see the freshmen play their way into the lineup. We are starting to see that. I want us to put more focus on national recruiting and not be so loyal to local hs kids and missing out on our plan a, plan b, plan c options. And we are seeing that.

I hear how we should always pursue local kids, but we need to truly understand the game and how it’s played. Just as much as we need to weed out the lazy players in the program, you need to weed out the 7v7 teams coached by f*ckboys of other schools. Don’t tell me winning changes that. BS. You don’t see this level of grooming anywhere else in the country. We need to rid ourselves of that cancer and then can truly start reaping the benefits of local products. So I’m glad the staff is recognizing this and shifting more emphasis and resources nationally.

It‘s going to take a minute. It’s going to be frustrating watching the games this year. But if you look closely, there is still reason for future optimism.

Have a good day everyone!
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We shouldn't be losing to Middle Tennessee, I don't care about what issues we have on the roster! That's absolutely inexcusable and any competent HC should of not let it happened.
 
WanderFranco said:
Run from it if you want, but if you're going to point out and giggle about a loss, you're kind of stuck with just a coach or two in football history.
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No one is giggling about a loss.

Does the current coaching staff bear any responsibility at all for what happened vs MTSU?
 
WanderFranco said:
I agree that dolts never learn. That's why Miami message boards have continued to whine about coaching for 21 years now.

Players go 7-5, it has to be the coach. Coach is fired.
Same players start 2-2, even with a new coach, and it still has to be the coach.
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Crazy thing is you warn them before the season and they call you a hater or an idiot. I said this offense would experience growing pains this season if Mario ran his offense and we were an 8 win team on paper and was called every name in the book.
 
This is Al Golden all over again. Everyone said it was clear the team had zero talent on defense and would take years to fix. Richt comes in, goes back to a 4-3, and in ONE season UM goes from the #77 defense to the #11 defense. One season to go from one of the worst to a near top 10. Blaming the talent level for a loss to MTSU and UMs sudden drop from a top 25 O to one of the worst in cfb is beyond absurd.
 
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KingB02 said:
That’s on the coaches. That means they ain’t putting guys in the right scheme to succeed. A bunch of guys don’t just regres
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If you were going to build a program would you waste a year and use a scheme you are not going to run in the future? Or would you lay the foundation and install your scheme and bring in people to fit your scheme? We dont have to like it. Its reality Mario sink or swim is going to do it his way. If this team actually made some plays in the red zone the results would be different.
 
TimeBum said:
Blaming the talent level for a loss to MTSU and UMs sudden drop from a top 25 O to one of the worst in cfb is beyond absurd.
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See, I don't think it's a "talent" problem in the traditional sense of the word. I think it's a personnel problem, but it's more about the "when do I get paid" south Florida mindset than it is about physical talent. If a dude can fly and can catch balls at the combine but really doesn't care about winning, and you have 40 of those guys, you have a bad roster.
 
Miami[]_[]Smoke said:
and yet you predicted an 8-4 record this year…so an improvement in wins over last year is a rebuild ? Ok. Was mtsu one of your 4 predicted losses? Just curious if we’re still on schedule to hit your 8 win prediction.
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I was hoping for 1 additional win. Typically a new coach has fewer wins than the previous season.
 
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