OT: Billy Corben on The Joe Rogan podcast

[BWCD]

I don't think Rogan is alt-right or whatever at heart but I can see how some people might if one just looks at the veracity in which he challenges some notions aired on his show.

I can see your POV, but if one of our posters was also on Domer podcasts, posted on Suckeye boards, and hung out with Noles/Gheytors and not wearing his Canes colors...all in the name of "hearing all sides"...any of us would be well within our rights to question whether or not said dude is actually a Canes fan and is actually a fan of one of those teams.

That's Rogan with conspiracy theorists, anti-vaxxers, white supremacists, MRA's, etc...

 

[kmwcane]

100% Agree.


HARD disagree. Plus, most of the extremism on the right leads to violence in the form of shootings/bombings related to religious zealot white supremacy/national socialism dressed up as patriotism. Most of the extremism on the left is just cuckoo conspiracy theory anti-vaxxer unrealistic utopian bullsh1t rhetoric that is more about passive resistance than violent resistance.

There are extremists on both sides, and we all need to figure out who is extreme on both ends and try to stay focused on what affects everyday people. However, I'm much more personally afraid of right-wing extremism than I am left-wing extremism.

I do not think that leftist extremism is as passive and non-violent as you may believe - see Antifa, for example.

Furthermore, I would be just as afraid of left-wing extremism given that it has led to murderous regimes such as the USSR, China, North Korea, Venezuela, etc.

 

[Tad Footeball]

I do not think that leftist extremism is as passive and non-violent as you may believe - see Antifa, for example.

Furthermore, I would be just as afraid of left-wing extremism given that it has led to murderous regimes such as the USSR, China, North Korea, Venezuela, etc.

This is getting realllllly OT but I think you're both kinda right. I think right wing extremism is more of an immediate threat in this country right now whereas left wing extremism has been more of a threat in the world. I'd love to see the Sean Penns and Danny Glovers and Roger Waters of the world go to Caracas right now and take some responsibility for what they supported.

Obviously there are countering examples on both sides nationally and internationally too as there are some very dangerous right wing sentiments brewing in Europe now.

 

[BWCD]

This is getting realllllly OT but I think you're both kinda right. I think right wing extremism is more of an immediate threat in this country right now whereas left wing extremism has been more of a threat in the world. I'd love to see the Sean Penns and Danny Glovers and Roger Waters of the world go to Caracas right now and take some responsibility for what they supported.

Obviously there are countering examples on both sides nationally and internationally too as there are some very dangerous right wing sentiments brewing in Europe now.

^^^This. We should be wary of both. People state-side tend to make more excuses for right-wing extremism because it is wrapped up in religion and faux-patriotism. That's why it's scarier to me.

In my day-to-day life, Antifa isn't trying to shoot/bomb me nor anyone I know. It's a lot more likely that right-wing extremism within the US can hurt me than Antifa can.

 

[Memnon]

I like Rogan's podcast a lot due to the guests he brings particularly when it's MMA/BJJ related.

Don't care for the political stuff on either side. I'm an independent & my ideology varies depending on the topic.

People are real disingenuous when it comes to hearing from only certain viewpoints, it don't bother me none but if you're for free speech you should be for it even when it's something you don't like or agree with.

But there's 2 people I'd love to see on JRE discussing their point of view, simply because his audience would be so angry & revolt over it lol.

 

[Hegemon]

I don't think Rogan is alt-right or whatever at heart but I can see how some people might if one just looks at the veracity in which he challenges some notions aired on his show.

I'm sorry but this is a ridiculous. You very clearly do not listen to his podcasts often enough to make this statement or watch highlights from people with an agenda.

Joe is **** near a socialist when it comes to welfare programs. He believes in universal health care, life wages etc etc. Who has he had on from the alt right on a consistent basis and juxtapose that to who he has had on left. He has on the entire spectrum of humanity and people latch on to specific statements and disregard everything else.

It is an extremely superficial and myopic way to go about describing someone or something.

Alt right? lol It is like saying Jordan Peterson is Alt Right.

 

[QuattroCane]

I understand what you're saying, but there are people who won't think Jones and his ilk are crazy...and follow him to the ends of the earth as 100% credible and truthful. That's when it's dangerous and the argument for ignoring him and freezing him out of the "open debate" is worthwhile.

Think of it in sports terms - if you're debating an opposing fan, say, a Gheytor...and they argue that Miami will lose on 8/24 because the university is run by ******* lizard-people who are half-alien members of the Illuminati, and on top of that, they run a child *** ring out of a pizza shop off Biscayne - because Q said so. Where is the worthwhile, open debate supposed to start if that's their starting point? How do you bring them back from that end of the crazy scale? Answer: You can't. Best to let them twist in the wind and let their audience dwindle by not giving them the time of day on any other kind of media besides their own.

That's an excellent point actually.

 

[holdnorth]

I'm sorry but this is a ridiculous. You very clearly do not listen to his podcasts often enough to make this statement or watch highlights from people with an agenda.

Joe is **** near a socialist when it comes to welfare programs. He believes in universal health care, life wages etc etc. Who has he had on from the alt right on a consistent basis and juxtapose that to who he has had on left. He has on the entire spectrum of humanity and people latch on to specific statements and disregard everything else.

It is an extremely superficial and myopic way to go about describing someone or something.

Alt right? lol It is like saying Jordan Peterson is Alt Right.

Yep Tadfootball only wants to hear his own opinions repeated back. Anything else must be challenged or he will stick his fingers in his ears and yell. La La La La La La

 

[User-4525]

Where did you get that quote from. Just curious and was wanting to see/read it. Thanks

 

[Handsome Squidbum]

100% Agree.


HARD disagree. Plus, most of the extremism on the right leads to violence in the form of shootings/bombings related to religious zealot white supremacy/national socialism dressed up as patriotism. Most of the extremism on the left is just cuckoo conspiracy theory anti-vaxxer unrealistic utopian bullsh1t rhetoric that is more about passive resistance than violent resistance.

There are extremists on both sides, and we all need to figure out who is extreme on both ends and try to stay focused on what affects everyday people. However, I'm much more personally afraid of right-wing extremism than I am left-wing extremism.

Right now right wing (racists, religious nuts like jihadists) tend to be more responsible for violence globally, but in 60s through 80s it was left wing neo-Marxist groups like Shining Path, Red Army Faction, Weather Underground, etc. Before that it was right wing, with fascists, racists like the KKK, and and paramilitary (Irgun). Then before that, it was left wing, anti-imperialists and anarchists (Black Hand, started a little something called WW1). Both left and right have very dangerous people. You aren't "safer" on either side. 10-15 years from now, it's a good bet you will see the pendulum swing back and left wing Marxist groups that use terrorism will make a comeback as countries abandon socialism.

 

[Tad Footeball]

I'm sorry but this is a ridiculous. You very clearly do not listen to his podcasts often enough to make this statement or watch highlights from people with an agenda.

Joe is **** near a socialist when it comes to welfare programs. He believes in universal health care, life wages etc etc. Who has he had on from the alt right on a consistent basis and juxtapose that to who he has had on left. He has on the entire spectrum of humanity and people latch on to specific statements and disregard everything else.

It is an extremely superficial and myopic way to go about describing someone or something.

Alt right? lol It is like saying Jordan Peterson is Alt Right.

The only thing ridiculous is you not acknowledging that I said that I personally don't think he's alt-right or understanding why some* people MIGHT think he is at a cursory glance when they see him buddying around with Alex Jones or not pushing back on Milo or Gavin McInnes as hard as he does on other issues. These are the poster boys of that "movement" so of course it's going to resonate.

You're also not acknowledging that white nationalism is the lifeblood of the alt-right so Rogan being "liberal" on economic policies, etc doesn't exactly run counter to the garbage that Milo and other spew.

And I reiterate that I don't think Rogan is anything more than a little too negligent sometimes in how he handles his intellectual curiosity. So calm down and let me know when Adam Carolla or Bill Burr is on his show again.

 

[Tad Footeball]

Yep Tadfootball only wants to hear his own opinions repeated back. Anything else must be challenged or he will stick his fingers in his ears and yell. La La La La La La

You probably couldn't even begin to describe my political opinions if a dinner at The Big Cheese with Billy Cohen, The Feast and Uncle Puke was on the line.

 

[NC_Canes_11]

I think some of you are diving way to deep into this. It’s his podcast, let him have on whoever he wants and let whoever wants to listen, listen.

 

[Mario Hurricanes]

“They staged Sandy Hook the evidence is overwhelming. Sandy Hook is completely fake, with actors, synthetic, in my view.” - Alex Jones

Watch the interview with AJ and Rogan. He explains what he said and why within the first 7 minutes or so.

 

[TemplarCane]

....and topic has what to do with football? Before anyone writes then don’t read op post, I already put Op on ignore. Off season continues to contain too many non football subjects. Mods have stated numerous times not this a Canes and football forum and other topics will not be tolerated. ?????

I consider being ignored by @Hemsleysalmons a compliment.

Corben produced the ESPN 30-By-30 documentaries on The U. So, the post is Canes and football related, in a way. Don't respond to the post if you don't like it. Mods can delete at their discretion.

 

[TemplarCane]

Rogan thinks Alex Jones is funny. He doesn't take him seriously. So, when he's been on and Rogan gives guys like him a platform, especially in the recent podcast, he just eggs him on to say some of the most ridiculous **** you'll hear. The man legitimately said on the podcast "I don't want to talk about Sandy Hook anymore...I want to talk about Human-Alien Hybrids"...

That's funny on every level, idc who you are.

Jones is funny. But I can only take his schtick for 10 minutes or so.

 

[TemplarCane]

Yes, a fact....I heard on Rogan that NASA was founded by Sergeant Schultz and the first director was Colonel Klink....

Werner Von Brarum helped design and develop **** Germany's V2 rocket program. After WW2 he was secretly moved to the United States, along with about 1,600 other German scientists, engineers, and technicians, as part of Operation Paperclip. He worked for the United States Army on an intermediate-range ballistic missile (IRBM) program, and he developed the rockets that launched the United States' first space satellite Explorer 1. His group was assimilated into NASA, where he served as director of the newly formed Marshall Space Flight Center and as the chief architect of the Saturn V super heavy-lift launch vehicle that propelled the Apollo spacecraft to the Moon.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun

 

[TemplarCane]

You know too much.

What is your present location?

I have associates in black helicopters and SUVs who would like to have a word with you.

Your associates should already know where @BWCD is....

 

[BWCD]

Right now right wing (racists, religious nuts like jihadists) tend to be more responsible for violence globally, but in 60s through 80s it was left wing neo-Marxist groups like Shining Path, Red Army Faction, Weather Underground, etc. Before that it was right wing, with fascists, racists like the KKK, and and paramilitary (Irgun). Then before that, it was left wing, anti-imperialists and anarchists (Black Hand, started a little something called WW1). Both left and right have very dangerous people. You aren't "safer" on either side. 10-15 years from now, it's a good bet you will see the pendulum swing back and left wing Marxist groups that use terrorism will make a comeback as countries abandon socialism.

I understand that there have been violent factions throughout the history of the world on both sides of the equation here. Globally, both types of extremism have committed violence. None of it is right, and I condemn it all.

I'm talking about today, in America. If myself, a member of my family, or a friend were a victim of domestic terrorism, the source of the radicalization of the organization or individual that carries that out is extremely likely to be a right-wing ideology, possibly tinged in racism, religion, faux-patriotism, or a mix of those 3. Those people are more likely to be the ones that take an Alex Jones-type seriously and act upon the crazy stuff he and others of his ilk are given platforms to spew.

 

[TemplarCane]

I understand that there have been violent factions throughout the history of the world on both sides of the equation here. Globally, both types of extremism have committed violence. None of it is right, and I condemn it all.

I'm talking about today, in America. If myself, a member of my family, or a friend were a victim of domestic terrorism, the source of the radicalization of the organization or individual that carries that out is extremely likely to be a right-wing ideology, possibly tinged in racism, religion, faux-patriotism, or a mix of those 3. Those people are more likely to be the ones that take an Alex Jones-type seriously and act upon the crazy stuff he and others of his ilk are given platforms to spew.

Ever notice how right-wing acts of violence, in America, are often not labeled domestic terrorism?