Official State Penn job as it relates to Golden Thread

Would You Be Upset If Al Left For Pedo State?


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DMoney, why would PSU hire another coach who may bolt to the NFL after just losing one to the NFL and why would MM accept the PSU jobs when there are open jobs available. As Arthur Conan Doyle said, 'If you've eliminated all other possibilities whatever remains must be the truth"

AG is gone because the damage and repair job he would have to do if he stays would arguably be worse than the NCAA uncertainties
 
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Do not dismiss the Munchak interview.

I've heard so many contradictory things that I'm taking a wait and see approach. But Adam Schefter is telling people in the agent community that he expects Munchak to be the next coach at Penn State.

Oh no...

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Dream coaching staff

HC: Butch Davis
OC: James Coley
QB: Ken Dorsey
HB: Telly Lockette
TE: Brennan Carrol
WR:Tee Martin
OL: Art Kehoe

DC: Ed Orgeron
DL: Kevin Patrick
LB: Micheal Barrow
DB: Hurlie Brown
 
id expect for this to not sit well with miami players if he stays...he clearly isn't as committed as he claimed to be and he seems like he might not want to be here as much as he said

LOL.

Have you listened to Al over the past 3 years?

If he stays he'll spin this like an absolute dream - how he turned down his Alma Mater because he believed in the U so much.
 
DMo: what are you hearing about the AD's or school's thoughts on Golden leaving -- that is, like the rest of this message board, are they apathetic as to his departure, or do they seriously want him to stay? The punch to the nuts would be if not only he stays, but then we give the dude a raise.

I'm sure everyone has their own opinion, but the people I've heard from definitely want him to stay.
 
Let it happen then, this thing has been such a cluster3uck from the go, why not let it so Al come back and crushes us for another decade after he gets run out of here in 2-3 yrs, then it will take the next guy 2 -3 years to get it back together, and that's providing the Admin makes the right hire... Ahhhh the life of a hurricane fan
 
Al is on the joe rose show tomorrow morning.. In case you may have forgotten

Yeah because no one has ever canceled an appearance on a stupid radio show before. And if he goes on that definitely precludes him from being hired by PUS.

Not to mention the fact that Joe sounds like his head has been stuck in a revolving conrete mixer with some of the softball questions he asks.

Yeah, that's probably the hold up. Al wants the PSU job but he's afraid to cancel his Joe Rose appearance.
 
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AG isn't stupid, as hard as it has been since he started, it will be even harder if he stays because of all the negative recruiting. All the hard work for this recruiting class will go down the toilet. There is no way he doesn't leave. Its incomprehensible.
 
Al is on the joe rose show tomorrow morning.. In case you may have forgotten

Yeah because no one has ever canceled an appearance on a stupid radio show before. And if he goes on that definitely precludes him from being hired by PUS.

Not to mention the fact that Joe sounds like his head has been stuck in a revolving conrete mixer with some of job the softball questions he asks.

That interview is never going to happen unless it's to tell us he is staying.
 
DMo: what are you hearing about the AD's or school's thoughts on Golden leaving -- that is, like the rest of this message board, are they apathetic as to his departure, or do they seriously want him to stay? The punch to the nuts would be if not only he stays, but then we give the dude a raise.

I'm sure everyone has their own opinion, but the people I've heard from definitely want him to stay.

And this is why we are a joke program now. Our admin has no ******* clue. Either that or they just love how Al helps the players with their calculus. If this ends badly I'm done.
 
The big problem I see here is that, upon close review of his performance, why would Penn St. hire Golden? The only thing he's ever proven as a HC is that he can take a terrible program and build up to mediocrity. He's never excelled. He's never come close to being great. At Miami, this year, he had a great opportunity take that leap -- from mediocre or pretty good to great -- and he sharted himself massively. This past season was an abomination, the degree of which is masked by the fact that we won 9 games against mediocre or downright pathetic competition.

If dozens of posters on the internet can see that Golden can't coach himself out of a paper bag, especially following this recent bowl game, which appears to galvanized even those most loyal to Golden, then how is it that the Penn St. AD, with millions upon millions at stake, won't come to the same conclusion once he looks beyond the ****ing cute binder, the cheap suit, and the 8 pillars of ****? Behind the cute platitudes about attitude and commitment, there is an empty suit on gameday. He's an organized, hard-working guy, a dedicated recruiter, but when the players hit the field on Saturday, he's out of his depth. The results and game-tape show it. My fear is that Penn St. will come to that realization, and we're stuck with this guy for 2-3 more years of frustration.

I'm on pins and needles here. If Golden leaves, combined with the light NCAA sanctions, then this will have been a HUGE year for the program. If he stays, we're on a ****ing treadmill to nowhere, and missing out on great coaching candidates.


They could see a Penn State guy that has guided two programs through tough times. They know he can recruit and he has good connections in the NE. I'm sure they feel their game day atmosphere and facilities make their program superior to UM. Might feel if he can win 9 games at UM with the cloud he can keep them afloat through sanctions. Most people nationally feel Golden has done a great job at UM under circumstances. He can spin and sell himself with no problem. In all honesty his scheme and personality would be a better fit at Penn St.

I agree he and everyone else are going to spin this as a positive for penn state and golden. Step up in class for him which he deserved for doing such a great job under difficult circumstances at miami.
 
DMo: what are you hearing about the AD's or school's thoughts on Golden leaving -- that is, like the rest of this message board, are they apathetic as to his departure, or do they seriously want him to stay? The punch to the nuts would be if not only he stays, but then we give the dude a raise.

I'm sure everyone has their own opinion, but the people I've heard from definitely want him to stay.

Makes sense. They don't want the hassle of another coaching search and they know the pool of legitimate candidates at their price range is subpar.
 
Dream coaching staff

HC: Butch Davis
OC: James Coley
QB: Ken Dorsey
HB: Telly Lockette
TE: Brennan Carrol
WR:Tee Martin
OL: Art Kehoe

DC: Ed Orgeron
DL: Kevin Patrick
LB: Micheal Barrow
DB: Hurlie Brown

Where's is the X and O guy.... Thats what this staff was sorely lacking. Those are Great names and good pos coaches but while they weren't the glamour names to us at the time, Fisch, McDonald, even Lovett under Randy where good X and Os guys. Even staff needs a very Good one on each side of the ball.

JC
 
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TheBeast knows fvckin nothing.

Golden is gone - the silence is the best indicator of that.

Bat signals would have been sent out if he "turned it down" to return, etc.

Xactly. Is SMD the only UM beat reporter that has done anything all weekend? One phone call to Butch is the extent pf the investigative journalism into this up to this point? Is that right? Where are the "phonecalls to potential candidates, quotes from BOT members" etc about this. All that we are getting is, "welp, I guess we'll know something Monday". Errr... Yuh. Give me something.

This...
 
How will he re-sell himself to the players and recruits who feel betrayed by this man? Not sure it will go real well
 
Do not dismiss the Munchak interview.

I've heard so many contradictory things that I'm taking a wait and see approach. But Adam Schefter is telling people in the agent community that he expects Munchak to be the next coach at Penn State.

Have you ever watched the NFL Network? Adam Schefter is about as connected as you or I. There are too many "insiders" who lack any real juice, or connections. I wouldn't dismiss the possibility but Shefter's input is highly suspect.

Just parse the words in his report/tweet...I'm assuming what you meant to write was" may in the agent community are telling schecter..." Sit with that statement for a moment. Exactly how many agents are in a place where theyre close enough to the situation to have any real feel for where this process is, and how theyre leaning????

This is pure speculation and conjecture if you ask me. They have to remain relevant, and feel the need to "make" news--b/c people like Schefter rarely are the ones to break it. He could know 15--maybe 20 agents well enuf to get a statement. What are the chances the 3 agents who represent the 3 known candidates all kibbutz together, and he's spoken to more than one of them????

highly suspect.
 
Dream coaching staff

HC: Butch Davis
OC: James Coley
QB: Ken Dorsey
HB: Telly Lockette
TE: Brennan Carrol
WR:Tee Martin
OL: Art Kehoe

DC: Ed Orgeron
DL: Kevin Patrick
LB: Micheal Barrow
DB: Hurlie Brown

Where's is the X and O guy.... Thats what this staff was sorely lacking. Great names and pos coaches but while they were the glamor names to us at the time, Fisch, McDonald, even Lovett under Randy where good X and Os guys. Even staff needs a very Good one on each side of the ball.

JC

Orgeron is not a DC. No way Dorsey would come here to be a qb coach but might if he is the OC. Would love to have Butch. Retain Coley, Barrow, and Brown for sure. Let Butch fill out the rest with who he sees fit.
 
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