Official State Penn job as it relates to Golden Thread

[bbcane]

Anyone ever thought that this could be a publicity stunt by Golden to attract attention to Miami in a positive light?

This was my original thought. Not now

 

[jump1cane]

I already know what my avatar is going to be if we hire Olive Garden so this needs to happen.

I'm out of the game, who is this Olive Garden you all speak of and why Olive Garden?

never mind, I got it

 

[Kirijax]

it is so clear we are al's 2nd choice at this point.

THIS

 

[The Franchise]

Real simple, hopefully he is gone. If not, then fire Dorito and bring in a new DC with his own scheme. He either then bites the bullet and accepts or he doesn't then just quits, which would be retarded but hey.......
Still if he quits we don't pay him ****. No way we let him hold us hostage like this and if he does come back not get anything out of it.....
If Dorito is around in the spring, we have mouth breathers running this program, and we will never be good again anyway.

Pretty **** much. Though I'm convinced after watching us fail in every phase so miserably against Loserville that changing the DC would just be a band aid on sliced jugular. I've watched C0cker and Shannvo scapegoat their ways through too many coordinators to think that's a magical fix.

 

[GonzoCane]

TheBeast knows fvckin nothing.

Golden is gone - the silence is the best indicator of that.

Bat signals would have been sent out if he "turned it down" to return, etc.

Xactly. Is SMD the only UM beat reporter that has done anything all weekend? One phone call to Butch is the extent pf the investigative journalism into this up to this point? Is that right? Where are the "phonecalls to potential candidates, quotes from BOT members" etc about this. All that we are getting is, "welp, I guess we'll know something Monday". Errr... Yuh. Give me something.

 

[jump1cane]

I already know what my avatar is going to be if we hire Olive Garden so this needs to happen.

I'm out of the game, who is this Olive Garden you all speak of and why Olive Garden?

Bobby Petrino = Fake Italian =Olive Garden

LOL, wow, we have to hire him now, there's a connection

 

[jed2410]

I think we definitely find out today/tonight

No way they let him go on Miami sports talk radio tomorrow AM if things are still up in the air. If the interview gets cancelled, then we know all we need to know.

 

[jump1cane]

I already know what my avatar is going to be if we hire Olive Garden so this needs to happen.

I'm out of the game, who is this Olive Garden you all speak of and why Olive Garden?

Bobby Petrino = Fake Italian =Olive Garden

Thanks, got it.

 

[nycane]

its not because how can you sit bsack and watch valentine de-committ. watch kaaya, chad, jackson, berrios, nigel, etc all flipping out on twitter. its been 4 days, i wont forget this.

 

[eliteproxy]

it is so clear we are al's 2nd choice at this point.

Al on Monday


option1: "I love Miami but my heart is at PSU. bla bla bla players rock bla bal" <-- PSU offered

option2: "even though PSU is where I started Miami is my home now. I will always be here" <-- PSU told him to kick rocks

 

[chicanego]

it is so clear we are al's 2nd choice at this point.

Yeah, which is why we better hope he gets the job.

The fanbase is going to turn on him more than it already has. We've already had other coaches recruiting against us saying he's looking to get out and move to greener pastures. This situation is only going to validate it.

 

[TomAce]

TheBeast knows fvckin nothing.

Golden is gone - the silence is the best indicator of that.

Bat signals would have been sent out if he "turned it down" to return, etc.

Xactly. Is SMD the only UM beat reporter that has done anything all weekend? One phone call to Butch is the extent pf the investigative journalism into this up to this point? Is that right? Where are the "phonecalls to potential candidates, quotes from BOT members" etc about this. All that we are getting is, "welp, I guess we'll know something Monday". Errr... Yuh. Give me something.

Lol...they all are sitting in front of their screens hitting refresh

 

[eliteproxy]

this is very similar to your girlfriend telling you

"I am going to go on a date with my high school sweetheart to see if he wants to be with me, if not we can still be together"

 

[nycane]

psu wants to announce on monday. they just lost obrein to nfl. they know franklin and the titans coach both are gone to nfl as soon as something is offered. get butch on the phone. i want a miami guy forget about all the other guys who have their heart at another university.

 

[The Real Kirk Lazarus]

id like to see us hire jay gruden or butch davis yesterday

 

[poncho0091]

If interviews take place with Munchak and Franklin I doubt there is an offer. Really who the **** knows.

Personally love the overreaction and the lack of understanding how this is business as usual and a business decision, one that anyone of us would do if we were in Golden's shoes, as well. Let's not hypocritical here, cus in our lives we have or would do with our careers. Understand this "game of football" is not a sport and sure as **** had nothing to do with amateurism, that's the biggest myth and BS most fans have been suckered into buying. THIS IS A BUSINESS, sooner you accept an understand that the better you'll be. I am just hoping for a quick resolution either way.

My work is done, as I am just contributing to get this thread to 5k posts and I'm sure some of you guys will pounce!

You don't get it. A lot of us want him gone because we think he is nothing more than an average coach. I'm not upset that his takin some time because I want him to stay. I'm upset because I want him out as soon as possible.

If he finished 11-2 the tone of the discussion would be markedly different

That's just it though. We didn't finish 11-2 against the baby soft schedule we had. The record is not the worst part though. Its the fact that we were embarrassed in year 3 by scrub offenses.

 

[mapcane]

The big problem I see here is that, upon close review of his performance, why would Penn St. hire Golden? The only thing he's ever proven as a HC is that he can take a terrible program and build up to mediocrity. He's never excelled. He's never come close to being great. At Miami, this year, he had a great opportunity take that leap -- from mediocre or pretty good to great -- and he sharted himself massively. This past season was an abomination, the degree of which is masked by the fact that we won 9 games against mediocre or downright pathetic competition.

If dozens of posters on the internet can see that Golden can't coach himself out of a paper bag, especially following this recent bowl game, which appears to galvanized even those most loyal to Golden, then how is it that the Penn St. AD, with millions upon millions at stake, won't come to the same conclusion once he looks beyond the ******* cute binder, the cheap suit, and the 8 pillars of ****? Behind the cute platitudes about attitude and commitment, there is an empty suit on gameday. He's an organized, hard-working guy, a dedicated recruiter, but when the players hit the field on Saturday, he's out of his depth. The results and game-tape show it. My fear is that Penn St. will come to that realization, and we're stuck with this guy for 2-3 more years of frustration.

I'm on pins and needles here. If Golden leaves, combined with the light NCAA sanctions, then this will have been a HUGE year for the program. If he stays, we're on a ******* treadmill to nowhere, and missing out on great coaching candidates.

 

[itsacanething]

From LIONS247


Hearing that we should expect an announcement on Monday or Tuesday. The search has been narrowed to two candidates, James Franklin and Al Golden. PSU has met with both (and their agents). The prevailing thought is Franklin is a better coach and Golden a better recruiter. The source said they could not discern a preference for either and thought both to be great choices. All other names being thrown out are not in serious contention.

FYI - Munchak is not being considered as much this time around. Apparently they want to go with a younger coach. Munchak had verbally agreed to take the PSU job in December of 2011, however, Bud Adams (owner of Titans) threatened to sue Penn St. if they took "his" coach. Penn St did not want to deal with a lawsuit as this was in the heat of the Sandusky scandal and then moved on. If you recall, Joyner exuded confidence heading into the holidays in 2011 but this all broke down during holidays. Some top guys stopped their vacations early to come back and find a coach which ultimately led to OB. I personally thought Munchak would be the first consideration, but it was made clear to me that it wasn't.

If it's really between Golden & Franklin, you have to think Al is on his way out here.

Franklin's ties to Vandy's rape allegations combined with Golden being a Penn State disciple have to put Al over the top.

Please let this happen.

Agreed. The choice is not really a choice. Golden is a no brainer for them. I'm offended that the administration of our school is allowing themselves to be strung along like some cheap ****.

 

[jruiz]

id expect for this to not sit well with miami players if he stays...he clearly isn't as committed as he claimed to be and he seems like he might not want to be here as much as he said

 

[itsacanething]

The big problem I see here is that, upon close review of his performance, why would Penn St. hire Golden? The only thing he's ever proven as a HC is that he can take a terrible program and build up to mediocrity. He's never excelled. He's never come close to being great. At Miami, this year, he had a great opportunity take that leap -- from mediocre or pretty good to great -- and he sharted himself massively. This past season was an abomination, the degree of which is masked by the fact that we won 9 games against mediocre or downright pathetic competition.

If dozens of posters on the internet can see that Golden can't coach himself out of a paper bag, especially following this recent bowl game, which appears to galvanized even those most loyal to Golden, then how is it that the Penn St. AD, with millions upon millions at stake, won't come to the same conclusion once he looks beyond the ****ing cute binder, the cheap suit, and the 8 pillars of ****? Behind the cute platitudes about attitude and commitment, there is an empty suit on gameday. He's an organized, hard-working guy, a dedicated recruiter, but when the players hit the field on Saturday, he's out of his depth. The results and game-tape show it. My fear is that Penn St. will come to that realization, and we're stuck with this guy for 2-3 more years of frustration.

I'm on pins and needles here. If Golden leaves, combined with the light NCAA sanctions, then this will have been a HUGE year for the program. If he stays, we're on a ****ing treadmill to nowhere, and missing out on great coaching candidates.

They know golden isn't a great coach but he can recruit. They will hire him despite his weaknesses because he is a penny state guy.