Notre Dame

Fair point. However, it had more to do with ESPN trashing ND for a month straight in their (successful) efforts to get 5 SEC teams in. Every time you turned on any game, ND involved or not, they were trashing ND. They kept trying to compare them to Miami, when rational ND fans knew they should both be in. Not 5 SEC teams including Alabama and Oklahoma which were massively overrated and struggled down the stretch.

After ND got the news the first thought was there is no way I am going to let the same company that trashed me for a month make millions off my brand in a bowl game. Thats like saying bend over and take it and then say thank you. NDs answer was, we don't need you. Don't blame them. Many ND fans felt the same way and the only way to fight back was in their pocketbook.

But I get what you are saying. There were some advantages missed by playing in a bowl. But when you were screwed by the one entity trying to profit off you right after they screwed you and you have two hours to decide....I at least understand it.
 
No respect for these soft sissies
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Morning, my Cane friends. I come in peace. Really looking forward to this game. I think the teams are super similar actually. I think Miami is quite underrated. I would have these teams 1 and 2, to be honest. I think both teams will be nasty on O and D and both have pretty easy schedules, tbh. Winner SHOULD be 12-0 and the loser SHOULD be 11-1. Can't wait.
Don’t you ever in your life put Miami and SofterDame in the sentence again. The only thing these teams have in common is they both play college football.

There will never be a time where a Miami Hurricane football team votes to not play a bowl game.

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Morning, my Cane friends. I come in peace. Really looking forward to this game. I think the teams are super similar actually. I think Miami is quite underrated. I would have these teams 1 and 2, to be honest. I think both teams will be nasty on O and D and both have pretty easy schedules, tbh. Winner SHOULD be 12-0 and the loser SHOULD be 11-1. Can't wait.
I've got major questions about this projected offensive juggernaut y'all are going to have. I get that you have a very nice O line coming back (mostly made of guys Miami abused in week one last season) spare me the Jagusah/Knapp hype. Im not really arguing you guys wont have a good to great O line. But....

Explain to me how Aneyas Wiliams and Kedren Young are going to provide the same explosive threat that Jadarian Price and Jeremiyah Love gave to your offense. Is there another back that will supplant them because neither shows anything on the level of your elite backfield from last season?

I watched Carr's highlights and 80% of what he did was dump it to the backs, who did amazing things, or toss it PA to a wide-open Pauling or Fields cause defenses were selling out to stop the run. These plays were a direct result of the dynamic abilities of your two backs. Besides those two bread and butter passing plays he would have success with Raridon and Fields down the sideline with 50/50 balls, but he lost both. I am not sure either of the two OSU rejects are going to move the needle much for you guys. Flanigan is question mark but also likely a downgrade from Raridon. None of your NFL legacy kids did much of anything last season either. Carr rarely touched the MoF except against a poor NC State defense who struggled mightily in that specific area and occasionally made plays with his legs, but it wasn't anything that you gameplan against specifically. He was able to execute quick outs with success and that's about it. This idea he is just going magically throw for 4k yards and 35 TDs because he is a year older is absurd. He was a game manager with an elite backfield and live arm. I am really curious to see what happens if the running game takes a massive step back now the O line may be able to keep you guys on schedule with a 4 yds cloud of dust style but against truly dynamic offenses with elite defenses that will not be enough.

So, it seems your RB room is much worse and your WR room at best is equal if not slightly diminished if you dont have a big body guy step up to replace Fields. I'll give you Greathouse but I thought Pauling did really well as his replacement and TBF Greathouse was a ghost against the worst version of our defense last season. Which I think is lost on everyone. You guys benefited from some big coverage busts in game one cause our defense and secondary was new, the Miami defense you faced week one was not nearly as good as the playoff version.

Sidenote:
Miami brings back Fletcher and 3 guys with equivalent talent and production to your projected starters at RB
Greathouse in 24 and Faison in 25 both went for 45 ish catches with 600 yds and 4 TDs
Miami has 2 guys slated to be on the second team with similar P4 production plus two top 10 in the country receivers in Barkate and Toney
and BTW Mensah put together a season at DUKE that is Carr's projected ceiling.

it's going to be a stock Camaro vs a Mclaren in that game on offense. Y'all better pray for ****** weather.
 
Morning, my Cane friends. I come in peace. Really looking forward to this game. I think the teams are super similar actually. I think Miami is quite underrated. I would have these teams 1 and 2, to be honest. I think both teams will be nasty on O and D and both have pretty easy schedules, tbh. Winner SHOULD be 12-0 and the loser SHOULD be 11-1. Can't wait.
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I feel gaslit every time a domer claims they never had an issue with Miami getting in the playoffs. They absolutely were saying we didn't deserve to get in all the way up until the A&M game and many were still saying that until we beat osu and it became clear and obvious that we deserved to be there. After the results of those games they started pivoting to say it was only Alabama that they had an issue with getting in over them.
 
No matter how nice any ND fan tries to be. I can’t help but not like them. Everything about that team from their ugly and boring gold hemets and plain dull uniforms just gets under my skin. Then you add in the arrogant entitled fans who act like they’ve been dominating college football for the past 100 years. They are attention whores who think they are too good for a conference but play an almost all ACC schedule.
 
Fair point. However, it had more to do with ESPN trashing ND for a month straight in their (successful) efforts to get 5 SEC teams in. Every time you turned on any game, ND involved or not, they were trashing ND. They kept trying to compare them to Miami, when rational ND fans knew they should both be in. Not 5 SEC teams including Alabama and Oklahoma which were massively overrated and struggled down the stretch.

After ND got the news the first thought was there is no way I am going to let the same company that trashed me for a month make millions off my brand in a bowl game. Thats like saying bend over and take it and then say thank you. NDs answer was, we don't need you. Don't blame them. Many ND fans felt the same way and the only way to fight back was in their pocketbook.

But I get what you are saying. There were some advantages missed by playing in a bowl. But when you were screwed by the one entity trying to profit off you right after they screwed you and you have two hours to decide....I at least understand it.

I want to caveat that what I say below isn’t meant to be a personal attack on you, I appreciate you willing to politely banter with an opposing fan base. I would tell any Notre Dame fan that they should be ashamed of their HC.

To quote Eminem: “What’s the difference between us, we can start at the *****.” **** would freeze over before Mario Cristobal would voluntarily skip a chance to get his players another football game. The only way I understand it is by looking at it from the perspective of a spoiled rich kid who got told
“No” for the first time in his life. Whatever similarities UM and ND may have - it ends there. If the situation had been reversed and Miami got jumped by ND for the last playoff spot, and you told Cristobal that UM should skip the bowl game in protest- Not only would you get laughed out of the room, he would probably punch you in the face.


I have more respect for loser Mike Norvell than Freeman. FSU got absolutely hosed worse than Notre Dame when they got left out of the final 4. Did they sit out? No, they still accepted the bowl game and got their *** kicked. Some people argued they should have refused to accept the bowl game in protest. Those people have no balls.

So I would say that among all football teams in cfb, only Notre Dame would go so far as to to be so childish, spoiled, and entitled as to pass up a major bowl game. I mean even the justification that you did it to punish espn is just icing on the cake. Your team and fanbase is so delusional you think that a multibillion dollar corporation like Disney is going to give a rats *** that you didn’t accept the bowl game. And what was the desired outcome? It will sting so much they won’t ever do that again? Not a great plan.

I say this as a grown man and a parent, I would pull my son off of a team if his coach refused to play in the consolation bracket of a tournament because he felt he got cheated. The game isn’t for him. Any HS recruit who saw Freeman rage quit on the season like that and still voluntarily chooses to go there does not have the mindset of someone who loves football and competition. Go ahead and pay your money and get those soft shouldered 5 star recruits - that’s exactly how Jimbo Fisher built a FSU team full of 5 star athletes that folded at the first sign of adversity.

I really hope there is a huge swath of the Notre Dame fanbase that was disgusted by Freeman. At least it would show that most of your fans still have balls and dignity.
 
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Fair point. However, it had more to do with ESPN trashing ND for a month straight in their (successful) efforts to get 5 SEC teams in. Every time you turned on any game, ND involved or not, they were trashing ND. They kept trying to compare them to Miami, when rational ND fans knew they should both be in. Not 5 SEC teams including Alabama and Oklahoma which were massively overrated and struggled down the stretch.

After ND got the news the first thought was there is no way I am going to let the same company that trashed me for a month make millions off my brand in a bowl game. Thats like saying bend over and take it and then say thank you. NDs answer was, we don't need you. Don't blame them. Many ND fans felt the same way and the only way to fight back was in their pocketbook.

But I get what you are saying. There were some advantages missed by playing in a bowl. But when you were screwed by the one entity trying to profit off you right after they screwed you and you have two hours to decide....I at least understand it.
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Fair point. However, it had more to do with ESPN trashing ND for a month straight in their (successful) efforts to get 5 SEC teams in. Every time you turned on any game, ND involved or not, they were trashing ND. They kept trying to compare them to Miami, when rational ND fans knew they should both be in. Not 5 SEC teams including Alabama and Oklahoma which were massively overrated and struggled down the stretch.

After ND got the news the first thought was there is no way I am going to let the same company that trashed me for a month make millions off my brand in a bowl game. Thats like saying bend over and take it and then say thank you. NDs answer was, we don't need you. Don't blame them. Many ND fans felt the same way and the only way to fight back was in their pocketbook.

But I get what you are saying. There were some advantages missed by playing in a bowl. But when you were screwed by the one entity trying to profit off you right after they screwed you and you have two hours to decide....I at least understand it.
ESPN absolutely does propagandize the SEC, which is why many of their analysts either played or coached in the SEC. All about the dollars.

You’re actually the very first ND fan I’ve ever talked to that isn’t a blabbering, delusional ****gobbler. Congratulations, sir.
 
ESPN absolutely does propagandize the SEC, which is why many of their analysts either played or coached in the SEC. All about the dollars.

You’re actually the very first ND fan I’ve ever talked to that isn’t a blabbering, delusional ****gobbler. Congratulations, sir.

agreed. He’s 1 of 2 Golden Domers I can tolerate, with the other being Judge Andrew Napolitano (aka the Human Badger)
 
Fair point. However, it had more to do with ESPN trashing ND for a month straight in their (successful) efforts to get 5 SEC teams in. Every time you turned on any game, ND involved or not, they were trashing ND. They kept trying to compare them to Miami, when rational ND fans knew they should both be in. Not 5 SEC teams including Alabama and Oklahoma which were massively overrated and struggled down the stretch.

After ND got the news the first thought was there is no way I am going to let the same company that trashed me for a month make millions off my brand in a bowl game. Thats like saying bend over and take it and then say thank you. NDs answer was, we don't need you. Don't blame them. Many ND fans felt the same way and the only way to fight back was in their pocketbook.

But I get what you are saying. There were some advantages missed by playing in a bowl. But when you were screwed by the one entity trying to profit off you right after they screwed you and you have two hours to decide....I at least understand it.


Look, I'm a fair man. I have mixed feelings on all of this.

On one hand, after some dip**** Notre Dame fan tried to talk post-game **** with me all the way from the stadium to the pedestrian bridge going over to the Yellow Lot, I am inclined to say "F You" to any Notre Dame fan on principle alone.

But on the other hand, I really really hate the SEC-SEC-SEC propaganda. And I think my posts from last year clearly reflect that I felt BOTH Miami and Notre Dame should have made the playoffs. Certainly, Miami's performance proved that we "should have" been included all along, and I know that it's hard for Notre Dame fans to feel that they did not have a similar opportunity to prove the worth of the team.

And then I go back to ND and Freeman skipping the bowl game. And I'm right back to "F You" to any Notre Dame fan on principle alone.

It's a complex stew of emotions...but I enrolled at UM in 1986. So you can UNDERSTAND why, and how much, I hate Notre Dame...on principle alone...

Sorry. Not really, though...
 
Fair point. However, it had more to do with ESPN trashing ND for a month straight in their (successful) efforts to get 5 SEC teams in. Every time you turned on any game, ND involved or not, they were trashing ND. They kept trying to compare them to Miami, when rational ND fans knew they should both be in. Not 5 SEC teams including Alabama and Oklahoma which were massively overrated and struggled down the stretch.

After ND got the news the first thought was there is no way I am going to let the same company that trashed me for a month make millions off my brand in a bowl game. Thats like saying bend over and take it and then say thank you. NDs answer was, we don't need you. Don't blame them. Many ND fans felt the same way and the only way to fight back was in their pocketbook.

But I get what you are saying. There were some advantages missed by playing in a bowl. But when you were screwed by the one entity trying to profit off you right after they screwed you and you have two hours to decide....I at least understand it.

I don’t think I’m in the minority when I say I’d rather see a Power 4 team playing Oregon at Autzen stadium last year in the playoff rather than any Group of 5 team. Even if it was Notre Dame, much as I despise them. Oregon (or any other 5-6 seed) doesn’t deserve a warmup game at home before they play a team with a bye. Like, if Miami doesn’t end up with a bye this year, it puts us at a big advantage if we get one of those seeds rather than playing another SEC team either at home or especially on the road. I’m sorry, but nobody aside from Power 4 teams (and ND, as long as they deserve it) should get in. Anyone else is gonna get dusted anyway.
 
Look, I'm a fair man. I have mixed feelings on all of this.

On one hand, after some dip**** Notre Dame fan tried to talk post-game **** with me all the way from the stadium to the pedestrian bridge going over to the Yellow Lot, I am inclined to say "F You" to any Notre Dame fan on principle alone.

But on the other hand, I really really hate the SEC-SEC-SEC propaganda. And I think my posts from last year clearly reflect that I felt BOTH Miami and Notre Dame should have made the playoffs. Certainly, Miami's performance proved that we "should have" been included all along, and I know that it's hard for Notre Dame fans to feel that they did not have a similar opportunity to prove the worth of the team.

And then I go back to ND and Freeman skipping the bowl game. And I'm right back to "F You" to any Notre Dame fan on principle alone.

It's a complex stew of emotions...but I enrolled at UM in 1986. So you can UNDERSTAND why, and how much, I hate Notre Dame...on principle alone...

Sorry. Not really, though...
73 grad, my brother and you sir have summed up my feelings. I also think that the hype coming out of ND about this season and their revenge tour is misguided, misplaced and misdirected. They’re reving their engines and screaming their righteous indignation towards us, like we kept them out of the playoffs. Well, we did , we beat their a**es, head to head. This just shows that We are living in their heads, and this game is emotional and fraught with rage and their entitled hubris. So be it. Bc we are there for business. The business of driving a f**king stake through their sacred hearts. And to leave them broken and sobbing at this lost opportunity, as the rest of their season and playoffs goes down the s**tter. But, hey,.. maybe they learned their lesson and won’t pass up another post season bowl game.. just sayin’.. GOCANES🙌🏽
 
WTF offense do they have that will put up 38 against us?! Ain’t no way after losing their entire running game! Carr can’t carry them 😂
I am not understanding the love for CJC, they talking like this guy is first pick material. I haven't seen it yet, maybe he does it this season but he is a serviceable QB to me.
 
Don’t you ever in your life put Miami and SofterDame in the sentence again. The only thing these teams have in common is they both play college football.

There will never be a time where a Miami Hurricane football team votes to not play a bowl game.

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Facts aint no quitting here, Mario would have the team play against a pop warner team at full health if he had too.
 
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