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I'm happy to see that President Shalala has made this a priority so early in her tenure. It would have been laughable if she waited until a month before she leaves UM to start talking about a new football stadium.
 
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The Franchise said:
I'm happy to see that President Shalala has made this a priority so early in her tenure. It would have been laughable if she waited until a month before she leaves UM to start talking about a new football stadium.
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I'm happy to see that 'Chise snapped out of the coma he's been in since early 2014, when it was first reported that UM was in talks with Beckham.
 
rsa coral gables said:
VinnDogg said:
CaneInHeelCountry said:
VinnDogg said:
Lulz at Donna saying this now on her way out the door. Funny how that was never a priority when, you know, she was raising billions and hobnobbing around. Like everything else, she wanted someone to do all the work while she could sit back and take credit.

The time to seek public opinion and get the ball rolling was when the team was at it's peak. You don't seek this kind of project when the football team is irrelevant.

Thanks, Donna
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Said it already in a ton of posts in this thread: if you look at the timeline, it ain't like Donna's been slacking on a potential stadium deal.

Back in 2007, she was driving a deal with the city to renovate the OB. The city backed out. Shalala went with the only immediately viable option, which was SunLife.

A few years go by. Late 2013, Beckham announces he wants MLS in Miami and is scouting stadium locations. By early 2014, it's in all the papers that UM is looking into a deal with Becham. Shalala and Blake are seen at Beckham press ops, etc.

So it's totally BS to act like she's never made a stadium a priority until just now.
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Shalala never wanted to stay in the OB. She jumped at the chance to get a luxury suite at Dolphin stadium to wine and dine her elitist buddies. All the other stuff was smoke and mirrors designed to throw the fans a fake bone.

As for the Beckham deal, again she sat back while OTHERS did the work. Beckham peeps called UM to see if they were interested, not the other way around. Not only that, Richard Fain himself helped squash the ideal waterfront location. Can you say conflict of interest? I can. It's called business as usual in Coral Gables.

Geez. Some folks still think she cared about anything other than herself and the med campus.
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her University of Miami hospital just received an F rating.
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You mean the hospital UM paid $275 MILLION Dollars for in 2007, a price which was THREE times what it was worth per the following source:

"Joshua Nemzoff, a specialist in buying and selling hospitals, was stunned by the amount. “They paid three times what I thought that hospital was worth,” he said. UM used bonds to pay for the hospital plus $50 million in improvements."

-Palm Beach Post, 30 July 2012

Of course UM couldn't do anything about the OB; Donna and the crew PUT them in a hole making it financially untenable. CaneinHeelCountry is right, UM couldn't financially do it, but "forgets" to mention the reason!
 
If donna wants to improve on her legacy she should wait until day #1 of her new job as head of the clinton family slush fund, then simply make a donation to UM in the amount of al golden's buyout.
 
Looks like Donna is blowing smoke up our collective A$$es again:

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/news/2015/05/06/san-antonio-s-mls-window-of-opportunity-could.html

Bottom Line: MLS said we aren't MLB stepchildren and you can keep your Little Havana spot...We can get our bread buttered in San Antonio.

Is it June 1st already?? I mean we already know she (literally) knee deep in Clinton "donation" receipts she is shredding along with contracting a smelter to take care of the Hard Drives...Maybe she can put in a good word to the Feds on Shapiro's behalf and bring him on as a director...

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CaneFan79 said:
Looks like Donna is blowing smoke up our collective A$$es again:

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/news/2015/05/06/san-antonio-s-mls-window-of-opportunity-could.html

Bottom Line: MLS said we aren't MLB stepchildren and you can keep your Little Havana spot...We can get our bread buttered in San Antonio.

Is it June 1st already?? I mean we already know she (literally) knee deep in Clinton "donation" receipts she is shredding along with contracting a smelter to take care of the Hard Drives...Maybe she can put in a good word to the Feds on Shapiro's behalf and bring him on as a director...

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As much as I detest her, this is really more about MLS than it is about her.

Having said that, the next time that Donna says something truthful , will be also be the first time she says something truthful.
 
CaneFan79 said:
Looks like Donna is blowing smoke up our collective A$$es again:

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/news/2015/05/06/san-antonio-s-mls-window-of-opportunity-could.html

Bottom Line: MLS said we aren't MLB stepchildren and you can keep your Little Havana spot...We can get our bread buttered in San Antonio.

Is it June 1st already?? I mean we already know she (literally) knee deep in Clinton "donation" receipts she is shredding along with contracting a smelter to take care of the Hard Drives...Maybe she can put in a good word to the Feds on Shapiro's behalf and bring him on as a director...

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mirednmediocrity said:
I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS "NEW STADIUM" BS FOR ONE MINUTE!
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http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/mls/article21743649.html

Soccer star David Beckham, his investment group and Major League Soccer Commissioner Don Garber met with outgoing University of Miami president Donna Shalala for three hours on Friday at a Coral Gables office building to explore the possibility of a joint stadium for a Miami MLS team and Hurricanes football.

They then met with Miami-Dade Mayor Carlos Gimenez for nearly an hour.

The group emerged from the meetings around 6 p.m., and only Gimenez spoke, saying, “They’re running out of time. They want to come to Miami. But it has to work for them, too. If they can’t get it done here, they may have to go somewhere else.’’

The rest of the principals, including Shalala, would not comment on what was discussed, details of the proposed plan, or what comes next.

“There’s really nothing to say at this point,’’ Beckham said in the parking lot, adding, “Donna was amazing, but we really can’t talk about anything now.’’

Gimenez said that Beckham “didn't really say very much” during their meeting, and that most of the talking was done by Claure and Garber.

“There's no certainty that the University of Miami is going forward at this time,” Gimenez said. “It's not going to be a year or two. They [Beckham’s group] need to make a decision fairly quickly on a site.”

Gimenez and Miami Mayor Tomás Regalado embraced a new push by Beckham for a Miami stadium, saying a central role by UM would be helpful as the school seeks a new home for its football games.

“I think that it’s a good idea — and it’s something I brought up to the Beckham group a long time ago — that maybe you should be partnering up with the University of Miami. Because I know the University of Miami has wanted to come back closer to their campus,” Gimenez told reporters after a boat-safety news conference on Friday morning. “If you can kind of kill two birds with one stone, it’s not a bad thing. And the fact that UM is getting involved is not a bad thing.”

Regalado said that he was briefed by Shalala and Claure, and that they only talked about a combined football and soccer stadium next to Marlins Park, where UM used to play football at the old Orange Bowl stadium. Regalado, a top Gimenez rival, also was enthusiastic about the idea of UM leaving Sun Life Stadium in Miami Gardens to play at its old home.

“I would endorse the concept of the Canes and Beckham paying at the Orange Bowl,” he said during a telephone interview from Orlando, where he was vacationing with family. “To me that's fantastic. I see that as the component that Miami needs. This is the icing on the cake for the renaissance of Miami.”

Gimenez and Regalado said they spoke with Shalala about the potential for a soccer-and-football stadium on Thursday.

The timing of the visit by Beckham brought some wrinkles. Shalala only has one more week on the job before taking over the Clinton Foundation in New York. And while UM never held the kind of high-profile meeting held Friday, last year there was no secret about the school’s interest in a Beckham stadium allowing UM football to move to downtown Miami.

Beckham’s bids for a downtown waterfront location failed, and now a stadium next to Marlins Park is considered the preferred choice by Beckham’s group and the university.

Much of the land by Marlins Park is controlled by Miami, but Regalado was not on Beckham’s itinerary. A city official had said the soccer star’s organization had not been in touch. Mayor Regalado said that Shalala met with him at City Hall on Thursday, and that a university official put him on the phone with Claure and Garber on Friday afternoon. “They said it was a very rushed meeting,” Regalado said.

Gimenez and Regalado have united for a soccer plan before, only to see it fall apart. Regalado played a central role in blocking Beckham’s bid to bring soccer to Miami’s Museum Park. Now his daughter, Raquel, is running against Gimenez for county mayor in 2016.

But while Mayor Regalado floated the idea of a referendum for handing over city land to Beckham’s team in the past, on Friday he was iffy on that potential hurdle.

“I’m not sure about the legal issues. I think it’s too early to see if we need a referendum or if we need charrettes,” he said, referring to land-use planning sessions.

Even with political support, UM and Beckham face a significant hurdle: the Miami Dolphins.

Shalala recently lamented the football team having to play games at Sun Life Stadium. But leaving the program’s home since 2008 could be costly. Dolphins owner Stephen Ross has signaled his intent to hold the Hurricanes to the remaining 17 years on their lease at the stadium, which is undergoing renovations that were part of a county subsidy deal approved last year.

The Hurricanes used to play football at the Orange Bowl, the former name of the Marlins Park site. It was demolished to make way for baseball. Now Beckham’s group has raised the possibility of building a Major League Soccer stadium next door that would be large enough, with about 40,000 seats, to accommodate football games, too.

Beckham’s group, which includes Claure and American Idol creator Simon Fuller, also has scouted at least one, as-yet-unidentified site in Overtown that is privately owned, and reportedly is considering a third site from the private sector. Last year, Beckham’s team pledged to build its own stadium and pay rent provided Miami-Dade could provide it free land.

On Friday, Gimenez reiterated that he would not use public funds for stadium construction. But he raised the possibility of the county shouldering some infrastructure costs around a stadium, and reaffirmed the idea that Miami-Dade could own the facility and spare Beckham from paying property taxes. That’s the case for the county-owned Marlins Park and AmericanAirlines Arena, while the Dolphins own their stadium and pay taxes.

“I’ve been very clear we’re not going to be contributing funds to the stadium. But if we’re able to help I’m certainly willing to listen,” Gimenez said. “We have stadiums that we’re owner of that other people have built. Maybe that’s one component. Maybe there is some infrastructure around there that is ours, that we have to discuss.”

A Gimenez spokesman later said the mayor was referring only to work that would need to be done for a stadium next to Marlins Park, which would likely require some alterations along Northwest 17th Avenue.

With Mayor Regalado saying Marlins Park is the favored site, this week’s development could mark an official walk-back by MLS and Beckham’s partners, who both had dismissed the Marlins site while pursuing more valuable spots on the Miami waterfront in 2014. Fuller famously called the area “spiritually tainted” because of the unpopular subsidy deal that allowed construction of Marlins Park.

Asked about Fuller’s remarks Friday, Gimenez replied: “We didn't talk about spirituality. We talked about dollars and cents, and where it could get done.”
 
CaneFan79 said:
Looks like Donna is blowing smoke up our collective A$$es again:

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/news/2015/05/06/san-antonio-s-mls-window-of-opportunity-could.html

Bottom Line: MLS said we aren't MLB stepchildren and you can keep your Little Havana spot...We can get our bread buttered in San Antonio.

Is it June 1st already?? I mean we already know she (literally) knee deep in Clinton "donation" receipts she is shredding along with contracting a smelter to take care of the Hard Drives...Maybe she can put in a good word to the Feds on Shapiro's behalf and bring him on as a director...

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San Antonio has and always will be a dump of a city and a bargaining tool used by teams looking to relocate and groups trying to gain an expansion franchise in another city. I'm not holding my breath on this happening here but it won't be because of San Antonio being a more attractive locale. MLS can puff its chest all it wants but it is still getting bumped by lacrosse on ESPN and will do whatever Beckham wants.
 
Beef Stew said:
mirednmediocrity said:
I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS "NEW STADIUM" BS FOR ONE MINUTE!
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http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/mls/article21743649.html

Soccer star David Beckham, his investment group and Major League Soccer Commissioner Don Garber met with outgoing University of Miami president Donna Shalala for three hours on Friday at a Coral Gables office building to explore the possibility of a joint stadium for a Miami MLS team and Hurricanes football.

They then met with Miami-Dade Mayor Carlos Gimenez for nearly an hour.

The group emerged from the meetings around 6 p.m., and only Gimenez spoke, saying, “They’re running out of time. They want to come to Miami. But it has to work for them, too. If they can’t get it done here, they may have to go somewhere else.’’

The rest of the principals, including Shalala, would not comment on what was discussed, details of the proposed plan, or what comes next.

“There’s really nothing to say at this point,’’ Beckham said in the parking lot, adding, “Donna was amazing, but we really can’t talk about anything now.’’

Gimenez said that Beckham “didn't really say very much” during their meeting, and that most of the talking was done by Claure and Garber.

“There's no certainty that the University of Miami is going forward at this time,” Gimenez said. “It's not going to be a year or two. They [Beckham’s group] need to make a decision fairly quickly on a site.”

Gimenez and Miami Mayor Tomás Regalado embraced a new push by Beckham for a Miami stadium, saying a central role by UM would be helpful as the school seeks a new home for its football games.

“I think that it’s a good idea — and it’s something I brought up to the Beckham group a long time ago — that maybe you should be partnering up with the University of Miami. Because I know the University of Miami has wanted to come back closer to their campus,” Gimenez told reporters after a boat-safety news conference on Friday morning. “If you can kind of kill two birds with one stone, it’s not a bad thing. And the fact that UM is getting involved is not a bad thing.”

Regalado said that he was briefed by Shalala and Claure, and that they only talked about a combined football and soccer stadium next to Marlins Park, where UM used to play football at the old Orange Bowl stadium. Regalado, a top Gimenez rival, also was enthusiastic about the idea of UM leaving Sun Life Stadium in Miami Gardens to play at its old home.

“I would endorse the concept of the Canes and Beckham paying at the Orange Bowl,” he said during a telephone interview from Orlando, where he was vacationing with family. “To me that's fantastic. I see that as the component that Miami needs. This is the icing on the cake for the renaissance of Miami.”

Gimenez and Regalado said they spoke with Shalala about the potential for a soccer-and-football stadium on Thursday.

The timing of the visit by Beckham brought some wrinkles. Shalala only has one more week on the job before taking over the Clinton Foundation in New York. And while UM never held the kind of high-profile meeting held Friday, last year there was no secret about the school’s interest in a Beckham stadium allowing UM football to move to downtown Miami.

Beckham’s bids for a downtown waterfront location failed, and now a stadium next to Marlins Park is considered the preferred choice by Beckham’s group and the university.

Much of the land by Marlins Park is controlled by Miami, but Regalado was not on Beckham’s itinerary. A city official had said the soccer star’s organization had not been in touch. Mayor Regalado said that Shalala met with him at City Hall on Thursday, and that a university official put him on the phone with Claure and Garber on Friday afternoon. “They said it was a very rushed meeting,” Regalado said.

Gimenez and Regalado have united for a soccer plan before, only to see it fall apart. Regalado played a central role in blocking Beckham’s bid to bring soccer to Miami’s Museum Park. Now his daughter, Raquel, is running against Gimenez for county mayor in 2016.

But while Mayor Regalado floated the idea of a referendum for handing over city land to Beckham’s team in the past, on Friday he was iffy on that potential hurdle.

“I’m not sure about the legal issues. I think it’s too early to see if we need a referendum or if we need charrettes,” he said, referring to land-use planning sessions.

Even with political support, UM and Beckham face a significant hurdle: the Miami Dolphins.

Shalala recently lamented the football team having to play games at Sun Life Stadium. But leaving the program’s home since 2008 could be costly. Dolphins owner Stephen Ross has signaled his intent to hold the Hurricanes to the remaining 17 years on their lease at the stadium, which is undergoing renovations that were part of a county subsidy deal approved last year.

The Hurricanes used to play football at the Orange Bowl, the former name of the Marlins Park site. It was demolished to make way for baseball. Now Beckham’s group has raised the possibility of building a Major League Soccer stadium next door that would be large enough, with about 40,000 seats, to accommodate football games, too.

Beckham’s group, which includes Claure and American Idol creator Simon Fuller, also has scouted at least one, as-yet-unidentified site in Overtown that is privately owned, and reportedly is considering a third site from the private sector. Last year, Beckham’s team pledged to build its own stadium and pay rent provided Miami-Dade could provide it free land.

On Friday, Gimenez reiterated that he would not use public funds for stadium construction. But he raised the possibility of the county shouldering some infrastructure costs around a stadium, and reaffirmed the idea that Miami-Dade could own the facility and spare Beckham from paying property taxes. That’s the case for the county-owned Marlins Park and AmericanAirlines Arena, while the Dolphins own their stadium and pay taxes.

“I’ve been very clear we’re not going to be contributing funds to the stadium. But if we’re able to help I’m certainly willing to listen,” Gimenez said. “We have stadiums that we’re owner of that other people have built. Maybe that’s one component. Maybe there is some infrastructure around there that is ours, that we have to discuss.”

A Gimenez spokesman later said the mayor was referring only to work that would need to be done for a stadium next to Marlins Park, which would likely require some alterations along Northwest 17th Avenue.

With Mayor Regalado saying Marlins Park is the favored site, this week’s development could mark an official walk-back by MLS and Beckham’s partners, who both had dismissed the Marlins site while pursuing more valuable spots on the Miami waterfront in 2014. Fuller famously called the area “spiritually tainted” because of the unpopular subsidy deal that allowed construction of Marlins Park.

Asked about Fuller’s remarks Friday, Gimenez replied: “We didn't talk about spirituality. We talked about dollars and cents, and where it could get done.”
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So ... The politicians have done what they said they would do. Push this towards Marlins Stadium. The MLS said they would't consider anything that wasn't in the city. The politicians haven't blinked. Will the MLS?

It's a ****** site now. It's laughable that this is an option. 2nd fiddle to a franchise that is being run like a 2nd fiddle.

This is just smoke and mirrors. Donna acting like she gives a ****, but that ship has sailed.
 
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Donna hasn't made a good decision in 14 years..... she should not make any major decisions at this point in time considering she is leaving in 90-120 days
idea might have merit, but Donna can not get anything right...... wait this U health decision will be a nightmare down the road as well
can she leave TODAY for the Clinton Foundation hopefully YES
 
sdaly said:
Donna hasn't made a good decision in 14 years..... she should not make any major decisions at this point in time considering she is leaving in 90-120 days
idea might have merit, but Donna can not get anything right...... wait this U health decision will be a nightmare down the road as well
can she leave TODAY for the Clinton Foundation hopefully YES
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The article says she's leaving in a week (June 1st)
 
ACKCANE said:
So ... The politicians have done what they said they would do. Push this towards Marlins Stadium. The MLS said they would't consider anything that wasn't in the city. The politicians haven't blinked. Will the MLS?

It's a ****ty site now. It's laughable that this is an option. 2nd fiddle to a franchise that is being run like a 2nd fiddle.

This is just smoke and mirrors. Donna acting like she gives a ****, but that ship has sailed.
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MLS is down to three sites: the old orange bowl, a site by the airport, and a site in overtown. There are no oceanfront downtown sites being considered anymore. Of those three sites, the orange bowl location is the best.

Sun Life is too big for a school as small as UM, and it's too far away from campus. The old orange bowl site is perfect and besides that, we have history there.
 
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Since a lot of users seem to think UM has a ton of money, why doesn't UM just buy the lot and build the stadium for themselves? We already know that Beckham wants a 20,000 seat stadium and UM wants at least 40,000. This means UM is already paying for 20,000 seats in the stadium. Is this stadium going to look like a college football stadium or a soccer stadium? Basically Beckham wants to build a Texas high school football stadium and UM wants a college stadium. The extra cost has to triple the overall cost of the stadium,
 
Lol the hole San antonio thing is a bluff... you come from wanting a stadium off the water to the desert of San Antonio not even beckham styles
 
Andrew said:
Since a lot of users seem to think UM has a ton of money, why doesn't UM just buy the lot and build the stadium for themselves? We already know that Beckham wants a 20,000 seat stadium and UM wants at least 40,000. This means UM is already paying for 20,000 seats in the stadium. Is this stadium going to look like a college football stadium or a soccer stadium? Basically Beckham wants to build a Texas high school football stadium and UM wants a college stadium. The extra cost has to triple the overall cost of the stadium,
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A key point to remember is that the ACC has a mandate of X number of luxury skyboxes for ACC football stadiums. The tobacco road elites hate having to hobnob with the proletariat. I have to think that puts certain constraints on a tiny stadium deal.
 
Tad Footeball said:
CaneFan79 said:
Looks like Donna is blowing smoke up our collective A$$es again:

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/news/2015/05/06/san-antonio-s-mls-window-of-opportunity-could.html

Bottom Line: MLS said we aren't MLB stepchildren and you can keep your Little Havana spot...We can get our bread buttered in San Antonio.

Is it June 1st already?? I mean we already know she (literally) knee deep in Clinton "donation" receipts she is shredding along with contracting a smelter to take care of the Hard Drives...Maybe she can put in a good word to the Feds on Shapiro's behalf and bring him on as a director...

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San Antonio has and always will be a dump of a city and a bargaining tool used by teams looking to relocate and groups trying to gain an expansion franchise in another city. I'm not holding my breath on this happening here but it won't be because of San Antonio being a more attractive locale. MLS can puff its chest all it wants but it is still getting bumped by lacrosse on ESPN and will do whatever Beckham wants.
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I live in San Antonio. It's a ****hole. No one here gives a **** about sports. They're too interested in ****** neck tattoos. I really enjoy soccer and have never entertained a scorpions game because I'd prefer to not die in a cartel turf shoot out. Can confirm.
 
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