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Donna Shalala says Miami considering shared football stadium with David Beckham

CORAL GABLES, Fla. - Even though she's leaving the University of Miami president's office, Donna Shalala is keeping her Hurricane season tickets.

After all, she pays for them. But even she isn't sure where the team might be playing in a few years.

Shalala, who is ending her 14-year run as the university's president June 1 and had her tenure celebrated before thousands in an on-campus ceremony Thursday, said the Hurricanes' current football home -- Sun Life Stadium -- is "too big and cavernous for a college of our size."

As such, she said she's thinking of potential solutions. Miami has been engaged in conversations with David Beckham's group that is trying to bring a Major League Soccer franchise to South Florida, but no stadium plan for that team has been struck yet.

"I would love to do something before I leave," Shalala said in an interview with The Associated Press. "I'm not sure I'm going to be able to, but I'm putting in everybody's head that we've got to figure this one out."

The idea of Miami moving to another stadium is just that -- an idea. The MLS deal is a long way from completed, and even if Miami shared a stadium with a new soccer club it would still have to find a way out of its lease with Sun Life Stadium.

Still, it's something Shalala thinks is worth pursuing.

"I know this: Leasing space is not the best situation for anyone, for the Dolphins or for us," Shalala said. "Being a tenant, we've had two tenancies, one at the Orange Bowl and one at Dolphins Stadium, and I don't much like being a tenant."


The Hurricanes have played at Sun Life Stadium since 2008, often to a stadium that's half-filled, at best. The Orange Bowl was demolished after the 2007 season and is now the site of Marlins Park. Even when Miami was at the Orange Bowl, the stadium was rarely full, with proof there that the 2001 national-title season only drew an average of about 46,000 fans to home games.

Sun Life Stadium -- about a half-hour's drive from the school's Coral Gables campus -- is in the midst of a renovation that will limit its seating capacity to about 65,000, with plans to drape off some sections and lower the capacity even more for Miami games. Miami has long thought that something in the range of 40,000-44,000 seats may be more suitable.

Shalala thinks that more intimate settings for games may become the national norm before long.

"It looks to me like these large-screen televisions are keeping people at home, that they can feel the football game a little better than they could in earlier generations," Shalala said. "My instincts tell me that colleges are going to need smaller stadiums, that there's something going on out there."


http://www.local10.com/sports/donna...-football-stadium-with-david-beckham/32686208
 
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Hmmmm....

That's the first time I've ever heard anything other than "Sun Life is a great home for us, blah blah" out of the university leadership. Could mean something's brewing...
 
Colleges won't need smaller stadiums. Ask Nebraska, Tennessee or Michigan if they need a smaller stadium. It's UM that needs a smaller stadium, because UM doesn't draw 100K per game. Win or lose, we just don't draw fans unless it's a big time game. There are other things to do in Miami than watch college football. Also, UM has a LOT of fans, but those fans are spread all over the United States. Unlike Nebraska, who has maybe 90% of their fan base within driving distance of their stadium, UM has, maybe, 10% of their fan base within driving distance of the stadium. That's why UM never sells out, and could use a smaller stadium. Doesn't have a **** thing to do with TV sizes.
 
Colleges won't need smaller stadiums. Ask Nebraska, Tennessee or Michigan if they need a smaller stadium. It's UM that needs a smaller stadium, because UM doesn't draw 100K per game. Win or lose, we just don't draw fans unless it's a big time game. There are other things to do in Miami than watch college football. Also, UM has a LOT of fans, but those fans are spread all over the United States. Unlike Nebraska, who has maybe 90% of their fan base within driving distance of their stadium, UM has, maybe, 10% of their fan base within driving distance of the stadium. That's why UM never sells out, and could use a smaller stadium. Doesn't have a **** thing to do with TV sizes.

and even then it's a ton of the other team's fans buying the tickets.
 
I agree.
Interdasting, if for no other reason, that the university is admitting a problem.
I assume she was sober and wouldn't make the admission if she didn't realistically think something would be done.
 
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Colleges won't need smaller stadiums. Ask Nebraska, Tennessee or Michigan if they need a smaller stadium. It's UM that needs a smaller stadium, because UM doesn't draw 100K per game. Win or lose, we just don't draw fans unless it's a big time game. There are other things to do in Miami than watch college football. Also, UM has a LOT of fans, but those fans are spread all over the United States. Unlike Nebraska, who has maybe 90% of their fan base within driving distance of their stadium, UM has, maybe, 10% of their fan base within driving distance of the stadium. That's why UM never sells out, and could use a smaller stadium. Doesn't have a **** thing to do with TV sizes.

The president of the university comes out and says for the first time ever.... after years of us saying this same thing.... that we're pursuing a new stadium, that it's a priority, and THIS is what you take from the article?

SMH.

Negged.
 
If I cared enough I would dig up some old positive quotes when we were forced to move into the hole we're playing in now. Don't forget, WHEN IT MATTERED she was singing a different tune. Her words mean nothing to me.
Colleges won't need smaller stadiums. Ask Nebraska, Tennessee or Michigan if they need a smaller stadium. It's UM that needs a smaller stadium, because UM doesn't draw 100K per game. Win or lose, we just don't draw fans unless it's a big time game. There are other things to do in Miami than watch college football. Also, UM has a LOT of fans, but those fans are spread all over the United States. Unlike Nebraska, who has maybe 90% of their fan base within driving distance of their stadium, UM has, maybe, 10% of their fan base within driving distance of the stadium. That's why UM never sells out, and could use a smaller stadium. Doesn't have a **** thing to do with TV sizes.

The president of the university comes out and says for the first time ever.... after years of us saying this same thing.... that we're pursuing a new stadium, that it's a priority, and THIS is what you take from the article?

SMH.

Negged.
 
If I cared enough I would dig up some old positive quotes when we were forced to move into the hole we're playing in now. Don't forget, WHEN IT MATTERED she was singing a different tune. Her words mean nothing to me.
Colleges won't need smaller stadiums. Ask Nebraska, Tennessee or Michigan if they need a smaller stadium. It's UM that needs a smaller stadium, because UM doesn't draw 100K per game. Win or lose, we just don't draw fans unless it's a big time game. There are other things to do in Miami than watch college football. Also, UM has a LOT of fans, but those fans are spread all over the United States. Unlike Nebraska, who has maybe 90% of their fan base within driving distance of their stadium, UM has, maybe, 10% of their fan base within driving distance of the stadium. That's why UM never sells out, and could use a smaller stadium. Doesn't have a **** thing to do with TV sizes.

The president of the university comes out and says for the first time ever.... after years of us saying this same thing.... that we're pursuing a new stadium, that it's a priority, and THIS is what you take from the article?

SMH.

Negged.

I agree with that, talk is cheap.

My hunch, though, is that there's way too much smoke here for there not to be anything in the works. Adidas sponsors both Beckham and the Canes now. And now Shalala comes out with these comments... comments that are a complete 180 from what she was saying a couple months ago.

I wouldn't be surprised to see an Adidas Field or something like that pop up in the next couple years.

I think they have big plans to set up in Miami and build their brand here, and having a stadium named after them is one of those things.
 
Colleges won't need smaller stadiums. Ask Nebraska, Tennessee or Michigan if they need a smaller stadium. It's UM that needs a smaller stadium, because UM doesn't draw 100K per game. Win or lose, we just don't draw fans unless it's a big time game. There are other things to do in Miami than watch college football. Also, UM has a LOT of fans, but those fans are spread all over the United States. Unlike Nebraska, who has maybe 90% of their fan base within driving distance of their stadium, UM has, maybe, 10% of their fan base within driving distance of the stadium. That's why UM never sells out, and could use a smaller stadium. Doesn't have a **** thing to do with TV sizes.

It's more about geography and why you are going to the game. Sure there are some places where they will continue to draw. Most of these places are college town's in rural areas where it's a community event and going to a game is about a lot more than watching a game. Those are your big state schools etc. Smaller schools, and private schools in major cities will need to move to smaller stadiums if they don't already have them because they don't have same community aspect. The NFL is running into this issue already. NFL teams are in large metro areas much like smaller universities/private schools. The reality imho is that watching a game on TV gives you a lot more information as to what's going on etc. I watch a game at Sun Life and the seats are so far away I can barely tell players apart. I end up watching every game the next day on DVR anyway and pick up a lot of things I missed in person. The TV experience is very very good.
 
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A lot, but whatever.

The way it read to me is that winning is no longer a priority, so we need to downsize. Get this *****es hands away from this program.
 
If I cared enough I would dig up some old positive quotes when we were forced to move into the hole we're playing in now. Don't forget, WHEN IT MATTERED she was singing a different tune. Her words mean nothing to me.
Colleges won't need smaller stadiums. Ask Nebraska, Tennessee or Michigan if they need a smaller stadium. It's UM that needs a smaller stadium, because UM doesn't draw 100K per game. Win or lose, we just don't draw fans unless it's a big time game. There are other things to do in Miami than watch college football. Also, UM has a LOT of fans, but those fans are spread all over the United States. Unlike Nebraska, who has maybe 90% of their fan base within driving distance of their stadium, UM has, maybe, 10% of their fan base within driving distance of the stadium. That's why UM never sells out, and could use a smaller stadium. Doesn't have a **** thing to do with TV sizes.

The president of the university comes out and says for the first time ever.... after years of us saying this same thing.... that we're pursuing a new stadium, that it's a priority, and THIS is what you take from the article?

SMH.

Negged.

The **** does that mean, "when it mattered she was singing a different tune"? Been shown time and time again that she tried to bargain with the city to renovate the OB, and that the city officials screwed UM over and were in bed with the Marlins from the get-go. What "tune" was she supposed to sing when her hand was forced and she only had one option at her disposal?
 
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Oh I don't know. She seemed pretty happy to lock into JRS for the long haul. She's a politician, so you're a fool if you believe a word from her mouth.
If I cared enough I would dig up some old positive quotes when we were forced to move into the hole we're playing in now. Don't forget, WHEN IT MATTERED she was singing a different tune. Her words mean nothing to me.
Colleges won't need smaller stadiums. Ask Nebraska, Tennessee or Michigan if they need a smaller stadium. It's UM that needs a smaller stadium, because UM doesn't draw 100K per game. Win or lose, we just don't draw fans unless it's a big time game. There are other things to do in Miami than watch college football. Also, UM has a LOT of fans, but those fans are spread all over the United States. Unlike Nebraska, who has maybe 90% of their fan base within driving distance of their stadium, UM has, maybe, 10% of their fan base within driving distance of the stadium. That's why UM never sells out, and could use a smaller stadium. Doesn't have a **** thing to do with TV sizes.

The president of the university comes out and says for the first time ever.... after years of us saying this same thing.... that we're pursuing a new stadium, that it's a priority, and THIS is what you take from the article?

SMH.

Negged.

The **** does that mean, "when it mattered she was singing a different tune"? Been shown time and time again that she tried to bargain with the city to renovate the OB, and that the city officials screwed UM over and were in bed with the Marlins from the get-go. What "tune" was she supposed to sing when her hand was forced and she only had one option at her disposal?
 
Oh I don't know. She seemed pretty happy to lock into JRS for the long haul. She's a politician, so you're a fool if you believe a word from her mouth.
If I cared enough I would dig up some old positive quotes when we were forced to move into the hole we're playing in now. Don't forget, WHEN IT MATTERED she was singing a different tune. Her words mean nothing to me.
Colleges won't need smaller stadiums. Ask Nebraska, Tennessee or Michigan if they need a smaller stadium. It's UM that needs a smaller stadium, because UM doesn't draw 100K per game. Win or lose, we just don't draw fans unless it's a big time game. There are other things to do in Miami than watch college football. Also, UM has a LOT of fans, but those fans are spread all over the United States. Unlike Nebraska, who has maybe 90% of their fan base within driving distance of their stadium, UM has, maybe, 10% of their fan base within driving distance of the stadium. That's why UM never sells out, and could use a smaller stadium. Doesn't have a **** thing to do with TV sizes.

The president of the university comes out and says for the first time ever.... after years of us saying this same thing.... that we're pursuing a new stadium, that it's a priority, and THIS is what you take from the article?

SMH.

Negged.

The **** does that mean, "when it mattered she was singing a different tune"? Been shown time and time again that she tried to bargain with the city to renovate the OB, and that the city officials screwed UM over and were in bed with the Marlins from the get-go. What "tune" was she supposed to sing when her hand was forced and she only had one option at her disposal?

If we shouldn't trust a word out of her mouth, then why do you take her words at face value if she says she's happy to be locked into a long-term lease at Dolphin Stadium?

Anyone with an ounce of sense could see that she was trying to play up the positives of the move and sell it as a good thing...which is what you do when you have no other choice. No sense in saying "yeah, this sucks":...instead, you try to sell the fans on what an awesome thing it'd be to play in a pro-level stadium, how great it is to have a long-term home, etc, etc.
 
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She made so many mistakes its not even funny. Shouldve hired Mike Leach and he wouldve had Sun Life stadium off the chain. F**k that thot.
 
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Show me a 45-50k seat stadium in Miami with the lower bowl being 20ft from the field, and I'll show you the loudest and most intimidating place to play in America.

If you build it, they will come.
 
Show me a 45-50k seat stadium in Miami with the lower bowl being 20ft from the field, and I'll show you the loudest and most intimidating place to play in America.

If you build it, they will come.


Even when FSU or uf or ohio state bring 15 - 20K fans?
 
In theory, wouldn't a smaller stadium limit the access of opposing fans?

Especially when the program starts winning. And those in attendance would likely care more, because the seat reduction would create a premium, right?

Show me a 45-50k seat stadium in Miami with the lower bowl being 20ft from the field, and I'll show you the loudest and most intimidating place to play in America.

If you build it, they will come.


Even when FSU or uf or ohio state bring 15 - 20K fans?
 
You build a 50k stadium anywhere near Biscayne or the Downtown (I'm not sure you could talk Beckham's group into Tropical Park) and, with the right Coach (Butch?), and SANE ticket pricing for the fans, that place will rock.
 
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