ND Game Next Year

[Brains]

For our OOC games I’d schedule three teams from group of 5. Give me FIU, Temple and Marshall etc and then focus all of our man power on the ACC..don’t want any Bethune’s or FAMU, those teams pose no resistance and are just pointless games.

I'm leaning toward this as the exact thing to do. They are real teams, so we have to be serious, but we can and will completely dominate them.

It doesn't require a great deal of attention or gameplanning. We can play to maximize our strengths, minimize weaknesses, and test in-game adjustments based on their looks. But mostly, it's trying things before the conference season, which we will focus all offseason and in-season on gameplanning.

My choices would be FAU, Georgia Southern, and UMass.

 

[JD08]

I don't think you understood his side of the cost/benefit analysis

We will not further ourselves as a national brand by playing lower G$ teams. ND puts eyes on the program and our victory is a large part of the reason why we have the viewership we have this season. That viewership will be critical when we start the conference musical chairs. It also matters as a part of the new revenue sharing agreement. The first round of the playoffs is worth $4 million. The revenue sharing can be worth even more. Why not try for both?


Most notably, the revenue-distribution model will now incorporate TV viewership as a way for the league's top programs to generate more revenue. That formula would put 60% of the league's TV revenues into a pot for distribution based on a rolling five-year formula tied to viewership ratings, while the remaining 40% would be distributed equally among the members.

The upside could be $15 million or more for top-earning schools, while it could also result in a decline of about $7 million for others, a person familiar with the situation told The Associated Press on Monday.

ACC changing revenue distribution as part of legal settlement | Chattanooga Times Free Press

The ACC, Clemson and Florida State are ready to move forward together after legal fights that threatened the stability of the league.

tfpdev.wehco.com

 

[JD08]

LOL - If you don't think Brohm having two weeks to dissect our O & D from the ND/UF games didn't play a MASSIVE factor in the game I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Of course, but would he still have that film if he were scheduled as the last game? Dropping the games that people want to watch because we might get lucky and have Brohm scheduled early in the season seems silly.

 

[Yoyo423]

We will not further ourselves as a national brand by playing lower G$ teams. ND puts eyes on the program and our victory is a large part of the reason why we have the viewership we have this season. That viewership will be critical when we start the conference musical chairs. It also matters as a part of the new revenue sharing agreement. The first round of the playoffs is worth $4 million. The revenue sharing can be worth even more. Why not try for both?


Most notably, the revenue-distribution model will now incorporate TV viewership as a way for the league's top programs to generate more revenue. That formula would put 60% of the league's TV revenues into a pot for distribution based on a rolling five-year formula tied to viewership ratings, while the remaining 40% would be distributed equally among the members.

The upside could be $15 million or more for top-earning schools, while it could also result in a decline of about $7 million for others, a person familiar with the situation told The Associated Press on Monday.

ACC changing revenue distribution as part of legal settlement | Chattanooga Times Free Press

The ACC, Clemson and Florida State are ready to move forward together after legal fights that threatened the stability of the league.

tfpdev.wehco.com

No.. but we could do what Clemson did in the past or what Texas Tech did this year...

dominate the ACC for 10+ years and then compete on the national stage in the postseason...

at this point we'd be better off going 8-1 in conference and 3-0 OOC and getting ourselves guaranteed ACCCG and playoff appearances....

Look at Texas Tech this year.. they could LOSE their conference championship game and still guaranteed to be in the playoffs... look at their out of conference schedule...

Arkansas-Pine Bluff
Kent State
Oregon State

By the way, they were favored against ASU by 7-10 points... and lost.. and they're not even in the discussion about not making the playoffs...

 

[JD08]

No.. but we could do what Clemson did in the past or what Texas Tech did this year...

dominate the ACC for 10+ years and then compete on the national stage in the postseason...

at this point we'd be better off going 8-1 in conference and 3-0 OOC and getting ourselves guaranteed ACCCG and playoff appearances....

Look at Texas Tech this year.. they could LOSE their conference championship game and still guaranteed to be in the playoffs... look at their out of conference schedule...

Arkansas-Pine Bluff
Kent State
Oregon State

By the way, they were favored against ASU by 7-10 points... and lost.. and they're not even in the discussion about not making the playoffs...

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The ACC as it exists won't be around for us to dominate for 10 years.

 

[Brains]

Of course, but would he still have that film if he were scheduled as the last game? Dropping the games that people want to watch because we might get lucky and have Brohm scheduled early in the season seems silly.

I think the schedule needs to be specifically geared toward going undefeated in conference. Our out of conference schedule should be of a level that our 2s can play the entire 4th quarter and continue to run up the score.

 

[Brains]

No.. but we could do what Clemson did in the past or what Texas Tech did this year...

dominate the ACC for 10+ years and then compete on the national stage in the postseason...

at this point we'd be better off going 8-1 in conference and 3-0 OOC and getting ourselves guaranteed ACCCG and playoff appearances....

Look at Texas Tech this year.. they could LOSE their conference championship game and still guaranteed to be in the playoffs... look at their out of conference schedule...

Arkansas-Pine Bluff
Kent State
Oregon State

By the way, they were favored against ASU by 7-10 points... and lost.. and they're not even in the discussion about not making the playoffs...

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Ooooh Oregon State and Washington State could be interesting choices too, as long as you know they're going to suck ***.

 

[ssvir]

We will not further ourselves as a national brand by playing lower G$ teams. ND puts eyes on the program and our victory is a large part of the reason why we have the viewership we have this season. That viewership will be critical when we start the conference musical chairs. It also matters as a part of the new revenue sharing agreement. The first round of the playoffs is worth $4 million. The revenue sharing can be worth even more. Why not try for both?


Most notably, the revenue-distribution model will now incorporate TV viewership as a way for the league's top programs to generate more revenue. That formula would put 60% of the league's TV revenues into a pot for distribution based on a rolling five-year formula tied to viewership ratings, while the remaining 40% would be distributed equally among the members.

The upside could be $15 million or more for top-earning schools, while it could also result in a decline of about $7 million for others, a person familiar with the situation told The Associated Press on Monday.

ACC changing revenue distribution as part of legal settlement | Chattanooga Times Free Press

The ACC, Clemson and Florida State are ready to move forward together after legal fights that threatened the stability of the league.

tfpdev.wehco.com

If the committee gave us credit for winning the ND game I'd be all for playing them next year and the extra viewership money ... unfortunately they have given ND more credit for a quality loss so we received all of the risk and minimal reward.

 

[miamicanephins]

We lost to lville due to Beck's horrible game and a couple of lville guys making plays of their lives.

The game was about UM not executing , not what lville did to us. In a typical college game, who ever commits the least penalties and turnovers normally wins the game.

LOl at making Brohm out to be Bill Walsh, the game plan wasn't any thing innovative.

The fact is UM beat it self and wins that game 9 out of 10 times

 

[JD08]

I think the schedule needs to be specifically geared toward going undefeated in conference. Our out of conference schedule should be of a level that our 2s can play the entire 4th quarter and continue to run up the score.

I understand the logic and as conferences add additional conference games, that's increasingly likely. Playing ND definitely put eyes on the program and that has value. Playing ND next year will also have value. Dropping them is as weak as UF dropping us back in the 80's.

 

[ssvir]

I think the schedule needs to be specifically geared toward going undefeated in conference. Our out of conference schedule should be of a level that our 2s can play the entire 4th quarter and continue to run up the score.

100% and you can expect the SEC to drop a whole bunch of competitive OOC games starting next year

 

[JD08]

If the committee gave us credit for winning the ND game I'd be all for playing them next year and the extra viewership money ... unfortunately they have given ND more credit for a quality loss so we received all of the risk and minimal reward.

So let's not find a permanent solution to a temporary problem. The CFP committee and their criteria will change.

 

[ssvir]

So let's not find a permanent solution to a temporary problem. The CFP committee and their criteria will change.

Once the SEC drops every competitive OOC game next year we'll be left holding the bag again having a 90% risk vs 10% reward game against ND.

 

[Yoyo423]

I understand the logic and as conferences add additional conference games, that's increasingly likely. Playing ND definitely put eyes on the program and that has value. Playing ND next year will also have value. Dropping them is as weak as UF dropping us back in the 80's.

UF dropped us because they were scared of us because we started dominating them... very different than why we'd be dropping ND...

 

[JD08]

Once the SEC drops every competitive OOC game next year we'll be left holding the bag again having a 90% risk vs 10% reward game against ND.

They're also in a P2 conference. We aren't. This is why we need more viewership. It only helps us when the realignment starts.

As it sits now, we still need to schedule another out of conference game for next year. Maybe we'll get a cupcake and can directly compare viewership to this year.

 

[JD08]

UF dropped us because they were scared of us because we started dominating them... very different than why we'd be dropping ND...

Yes, they didn't want to play a game they had a chance of losing. That's not different from this.

 

[Ryanmilli]

I am planning on making that trek next fall. I have a friend whom has had season tickets at ND for a long time.

Awesome. It is brutal for me around here man, but I am putting up the good fight. I currently have my oldest daughter at ND and my second oldest at the U. My whole family are ND fans (including my son, who keeps arguing with me about the CFP rankings) and I am adjunct at the law school and graduated from there, so I have to temper myself when Miami comes in.

If you or anyone needs any local info, feel free to let me know. I know it's a long way off, but for Miami-area people Allegiant has a direct flight from Ft. Lauderdale to SBN if you want to avoid connections/driving from Chicago. For SW FL coast, Breeze has a direct from Ft. Myers to SBN. SBN is a nice, small airport and very easy to navigate. Hotels are absurd for game weekends and there are not many nice ones. There is an Embassy Suites and Fairfield (I think) right across from the stadium - not sure how hard it is to get reservations at those. I would check out Rent Like a Champion or the other rental sites too.

 

[ssvir]

They're also in a P2 conference. We aren't. This is why we need more viewership. It only helps us when the realignment starts.

As it sits now, we still need to schedule another out of conference game for next year. Maybe we'll get a cupcake and can directly compare viewership to this year.

Viewership is secondary to making the playoffs.

I fully understand it helps our 5 year avg and getting a higher ACC payout - you know what helps more? Making the playoffs and winning a couple games and receiving the playoff money.

I can also guarantee you our Pitt viewership was higher b/c we were in the mix for the playoffs and other fanbases were hate watching us (like the 20 hours of football I watched Fri/Sat) rather than being out of the playoff picture.

More than half the teams in the top 15 played absolutely nobody OOC ..... Indiana, Georgia, Ole Miss, Utah, BYU, Texas Tech, Oregon, Vandy all played NOBODY and Bama lost to a dog**** FSU team.

 

[Cane44]

doesn't pay to play top teams, or play good teams "early" in the season apparently..... at least this is the message the NCAA is backing....

The NCAA and/or playoff committee has no idea how much they are ruining CFB and future match-up ratings, scheduling thought process, etc...

The NCAA SLURPED up our ratings vs. ND... but now does nothing for them... . GTFOH.... if you can't honor HEAD to HEAD (the freaking essence of sports competition), then you have NOTHING....

 

[AutoCANE]

Can we all agree that all of this just sucks? I was so stoked about a season opening matchup against those hated Domers, and we went out and controlled the game and won - and now at the end of the season after everything has played out, we’re looking at how many first downs we had against Syracuse or who was nicer to Stanford or who left with the cleaner uniforms after Pittsburgh or some other dumb **** criteria? This is all so stupid.