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ND Game Next Year

JBCanes-NC said:
Bammer has 2 losses. 1 being to a team with a losing record that has won 2 ACC games the last 2 years. Bammers other loss is to a team that lost to Texas that has 3 losses with 1 being to a team that has a losing record. Miami lost by 3 and OT to 2 8-4 teams. Only Miami is being held to a standard no other team in college football is being held too
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Bro, it doesn't even matter. We beat them head to head. The only time you bring in other Metrics such as ranking or SOS are when teams don't play each other.

Notre Dame can claim they are better than anyone except Miami
 
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If we get hosed which we very likely could. And the results from the championship games don't necessarily affect the final college football playoff rankings.

Cancel the **** game with Notre Dame next year. And I've said that earlier this week, but here's the key. Schedule somebody from the SEC. Still play an exciting opponent... Say a Vanderbilt, but just don't play Notre Dame to prove a point.

But again, schedule an exciting matchup if that could even be possible at this point in time with scheduling.
 
IndayArtHauz said:
Subtract the ND win from our season and replace it with Northern Illinois.

Are still in the conversation for an at large?

If the answer is anything other than “yes we are in exactly the same place”, then the ND game has value.

You are letting the committee’s stupidity cloud your judgement. Winning another meaningless game does not help. Winning the meaningful ones (Louisville and SMU) does.
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You still missing the point. We beat them head to head. There is nothing else to discuss. All that SOS, eye test, ranked teams beating...blah blah blah are for teams who have not played each other.
 
IndayArtHauz said:
Subtract the ND win from our season and replace it with Northern Illinois.

Are still in the conversation for an at large?

If the answer is anything other than “yes we are in exactly the same place”, then the ND game has value.

You are letting the committee’s stupidity cloud your judgement. Winning another meaningless game does not help. Winning the meaningful ones (Louisville and SMU) does.
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You are also missing the forest for the trees.

If we don't play ND to start the season then the coaching staff spends the entire Spring/Summer game planning for the 3-4 "tough" ACC games and we aren't giving our ACC opponents film to gameplan for us.

If we didn't play ND and won one of LVille or SMU we are in the playoffs.

If we play ND we apparently need to win that game AND also once again only lose one ACC game.

If we lose two ACC games we are out anyway even with an ND win (ie: this year).

It's a lose/lose situation.
 
Don't you guys understand?

Losing to Notre Dame next year is the first step to making the playoffs. If you win you have nowhere to go but down. But if you lose then you can say, "we've grown!".

Look at Alabama. They've grown SO MUCH since the blowout loss to 5-7 FSU! They played 5-7 Auburn at the end of the season and beat them by whole 7 points! That's a 21 point swing! GROWTH!

Look at Notre Dame last year. They grew SO MUCH after losing to Northern Illinois. Two losses to Miami and Texas A&M? Even more opportunity to grow.

You're probably asking if Miami grew this year after the OT loss to SMU. Well, the answer is no and you're an a**hole for even asking that question.
 
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IndayArtHauz said:
Subtract the ND win from our season and replace it with Northern Illinois.

Are still in the conversation for an at large?

If the answer is anything other than “yes we are in exactly the same place”, then the ND game has value.

You are letting the committee’s stupidity cloud your judgement. Winning another meaningless game does not help. Winning the meaningful ones (Louisville and SMU) does.
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I think Miami is sitting at 12 if you replace ND with a weaker win. The ND win is proving to mean not 1 **** thing to the committee.
 
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ssvir said:
Awesome - how did that work out for us this year? Still on the outside looking in and ND gets more credit for losing close than we do for beating them.
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We dominated that game, but 27-24 is absolutely not beating the **** out of them. If we had a 2017 41-8 score, this is a different discussion. Most of the people making these decisions didn't actually watch the game. they see a 3 point win is all.
 
JD08 said:
We dominated that game, but 27-24 is absolutely not beating the **** out of them. If we had a 2017 41-8 score, this is a different discussion. Most of the people making these decisions didn't actually watch the game. they see a 3 point win is all.
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Miami did not dominate the game. Miami won by a FG and won the yardage battle by about 30 yards. They didn’t take their foot off the gas either. Just because ND tied the game, doesn’t mean that Miami let up. People always say that when the other team happens to score late in the game and down by a couple scores.

Miami was the better team though and I agree things might be different with a 10-14 point win.
 
IrishFan said:
Miami did not dominate the game. Miami won by a FG and won the yardage battle by about 30 yards. They didn’t take their foot off the gas either. Just because ND tied the game, doesn’t mean that Miami let up. People always say that when the other team happens to score late in the game and down by a couple scores.

Miami was the better team though and I agree things might be different with a 10-14 point win.
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It's been noted that we never had less than a 60% chance to win. We never trailed in the game and were in command the whole time. That's what I mean by dominated. It doesn't mean you never had a chance to win.
 
JD08 said:
Here's a crazy idea. Why not just play them and beat the **** out of them?
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Because we get no credit for beating the **** out of them! If there is no reward, why take the risk? Just save any potential “L” for the ACC schedule seeing as we never go undefeated.

The Committee is sending a message that ACC teams can only make the playoffs one of two ways - (1) win the conference championship (nearly automatic route), or (2) go undefeated during the regular season regardless of SOS and lose the conference championship game (reasonable chance of getting in).

Playing ND does not impact Option (1) and could hurt us with Option (2).

If they ***** us, cancel the **** game!
 
Gables Cane said:
Because we get no credit for beating the **** out of them! If there is no reward, why take the risk? Just save any potential “L” for the ACC schedule seeing as we never go undefeated.

The Committee is sending a message that ACC teams can only make the playoffs one of two ways - (1) win the conference championship (nearly automatic route), or (2) go undefeated during the regular season regardless of SOS and lose the conference championship game (reasonable chance of getting in).

Playing ND does not impact Option (1) and could hurt us with Option (2).

If they ***** us, cancel the **** game!
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If we had played FIU instead of ND, would the argument for our inclusion be any different?
 
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