Miami opens as 3.5 point favorite vs. App. St

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As far as Vegas being spot on.....

Michigan was around a 36-38 point favorite against UCF. Michigan won by 37.

Alabama was a 28.5 favorite over Western KY. Bama won by 28.

Notre Dame was a 29.5 favorite over Nevada. Notre Dame won by 30.

Of course they aren't always right and I am pointing out their best lines from last week but they are usually more right than wrong.

If I recall, UT, a supposed top ten team to open the season, was only an eleven point favorite over App State. That was at Tenneesee. With us on the road against them, 3.5 doesn't surprise me one bit. As some said, I will just be happy to come out with a W.


Georgia - 55 v. Nichols

OKST - 18 v. Central Michigan

TCU -10.5 v. Arkansas

UL -17 v. Syracuse

Wisc -21.5 v. Akron

Sometimes they're right, sometimes they're wrong. Their goal is get 50% of the bets on one side and 50% on the other. Sometimes they hit the spread dead-on and sometimes they don't.
 
As far as Vegas being spot on.....

Michigan was around a 36-38 point favorite against UCF. Michigan won by 37.

Alabama was a 28.5 favorite over Western KY. Bama won by 28.

Notre Dame was a 29.5 favorite over Nevada. Notre Dame won by 30.

Of course they aren't always right and I am pointing out their best lines from last week but they are usually more right than wrong.

If I recall, UT, a supposed top ten team to open the season, was only an eleven point favorite over App State. That was at Tenneesee. With us on the road against them, 3.5 doesn't surprise me one bit. As some said, I will just be happy to come out with a W.


Georgia - 55 v. Nichols

OKST - 18 v. Central Michigan

TCU -10.5 v. Arkansas

UL -17 v. Syracuse

Wisc -21.5 v. Akron

Sometimes they're right, sometimes they're wrong. Their goal is get 50% of the bets on one side and 50% on the other. Sometimes they hit the spread dead-on and sometimes they don't.

Figured this response was coming. I agree with you, they're far from from perfect. However, they're better than your average joe. They aren't throwing darts. No issue with the 3-4 point line. Will probably be up to 6 come game time.
 
As far as Vegas being spot on.....

Michigan was around a 36-38 point favorite against UCF. Michigan won by 37.

Alabama was a 28.5 favorite over Western KY. Bama won by 28.

Notre Dame was a 29.5 favorite over Nevada. Notre Dame won by 30.

Of course they aren't always right and I am pointing out their best lines from last week but they are usually more right than wrong.

If I recall, UT, a supposed top ten team to open the season, was only an eleven point favorite over App State. That was at Tenneesee. With us on the road against them, 3.5 doesn't surprise me one bit. As some said, I will just be happy to come out with a W.


Georgia - 55 v. Nichols

OKST - 18 v. Central Michigan

TCU -10.5 v. Arkansas

UL -17 v. Syracuse

Wisc -21.5 v. Akron

Sometimes they're right, sometimes they're wrong. Their goal is get 50% of the bets on one side and 50% on the other. Sometimes they hit the spread dead-on and sometimes they don't.

Figured this response was coming. I agree with you, they're far from from perfect. However, they're better than your average joe. They aren't throwing darts. No issue with the 3-4 point line. Will probably be up to 6 come game time.

Their goal is to get the money to fall 50/50, not predict the outcome of the game. Sometimes their line hits (or is close) and sometimes it isn't close. It isn't the intended goal, it is a random result.
 
Dear Blake James,

This is why you don't schedule these games. Win, you're suppose to win. Lose, it's the "biggest upset" of the year. We gain nothing from playing this game.

Sincerely,
Common Sense

I disagree. Many people are saying we'll lose this game. Now, when we go out there and beat the **** out of them it will help us a lot. This is a beautiful game.

I respectfully disagree. I think most will dismiss the victory thinking we are suppose to beat them badly.

Lose and it's a huge upset. Win by a few and the plucky mountain ****ers gave us a run. Win big and that's what was supposed to happen. In the eyes of others, there's no way for us to really come out ahead. ****e them, and **** app, I think we roll, but I'll take any win.
 
And to get the intended goal, you would want the most realistic looking line to get a 50/50 split, no? They may not be trying to pick an exact outcome, but that becomes an unintended consequence.
 
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Dear Blake James,

This is why you don't schedule these games. Win, you're suppose to win. Lose, it's the "biggest upset" of the year. We gain nothing from playing this game.

Sincerely,
Common Sense

We had no choice, another team cancelled late on us.

We had no choice, so off to Boone, NC. That was the only option. Boone, NC.

Fcking idiots hear Don Ballbag Jr feed them a dumb excuse like "we had no other choice" and they run with it like it's gospel.
 
Dear Blake James,

This is why you don't schedule these games. Win, you're suppose to win. Lose, it's the "biggest upset" of the year. We gain nothing from playing this game.

Sincerely,
Common Sense

We had no choice, another team cancelled late on us.

We had no choice, so off to Boone, NC. That was the only option. Boone, NC.

Fcking idiots hear Don Ballbag Jr feed them a dumb excuse like "we had no other choice" and they run with it like it's gospel.

:6e482c_o::6e482c_o:
 
As far as Vegas being spot on.....

Michigan was around a 36-38 point favorite against UCF. Michigan won by 37.

Alabama was a 28.5 favorite over Western KY. Bama won by 28.

Notre Dame was a 29.5 favorite over Nevada. Notre Dame won by 30.

Of course they aren't always right and I am pointing out their best lines from last week but they are usually more right than wrong.

If I recall, UT, a supposed top ten team to open the season, was only an eleven point favorite over App State. That was at Tenneesee. With us on the road against them, 3.5 doesn't surprise me one bit. As some said, I will just be happy to come out with a W.


Georgia - 55 v. Nichols

OKST - 18 v. Central Michigan

TCU -10.5 v. Arkansas

UL -17 v. Syracuse

Wisc -21.5 v. Akron

Sometimes they're right, sometimes they're wrong. Their goal is get 50% of the bets on one side and 50% on the other. Sometimes they hit the spread dead-on and sometimes they don't.

This dude picks out 4 games to prove his goofy *** theory that Vegas is somehow prescient and can pick final margins of victory. I'm glad someone took the time to shove that dumb **** back in his cornhole where it belongs.

These dingbats think Vegas is about picking the score. They're about getting action on both sides, and they know everyone is all jizzed up on App Store because they beat Michigan a hundred years ago and fought like Rudy against the incredible Tennessee of the unbeatable SEC.

This is free money for anyone not brainwashed by the media. It's the cool thing to pick App Store to beat us. That's why the line is what it is. Vegas knows people are retarded.

Free money right here.
 
As far as Vegas being spot on.....

Michigan was around a 36-38 point favorite against UCF. Michigan won by 37.

Alabama was a 28.5 favorite over Western KY. Bama won by 28.

Notre Dame was a 29.5 favorite over Nevada. Notre Dame won by 30.

Of course they aren't always right and I am pointing out their best lines from last week but they are usually more right than wrong.

If I recall, UT, a supposed top ten team to open the season, was only an eleven point favorite over App State. That was at Tenneesee. With us on the road against them, 3.5 doesn't surprise me one bit. As some said, I will just be happy to come out with a W.



The UT/App spread was UT -21

Bama was a 11.5 Favorite over USC they won by 46

OU was a 11 point fav over Houston they lost by 10

OSU -20 vs Central Michigan. OSU lost the game.

Just this week they had UGA -49 over Nicholls State they won by 2.

They do get quite a few games completely wrong.
 
This is pathetic. They don't have a single guy on that roster that we recruited or would have signed. Let that sink in.

Is their coaching that much better than ours where the game is virtually a toss up when they don't have a single player we wanted to sign? I hope not. We should fck these bytches really hard.

What about the difference in altitude?

I have Francis blocked, but that's some solid reasoning there and typical of all he is, a **** talker. While ASU doesn't have as good of a coach as Houston, how did that same premise work out for Houston's opponents last year? How did that work out for FSU against them? I don't believe FSU prior to their matchup recruited any of Houston's players. What about Houston's week one matchup? Same thing.

ASU had a good coach who will move up at some point and they are used to doing what they do. They played Tennessee into OT, should've won the game. They played the Vols closer than the Hokies did.

I would take Richt over their coach and our players. I would take Fuente over their coach and his players as well. Still, like the Hokies we've got a whole new playbook we're using and lost some players at places we were already thin or unproven at to begin with.

I expect to win by two TD's, but don't think ASU is someone this fanbase should overlook. I doubt the coaches are looking at it as a gimme either.

We should win,

I was being sarcastic you mook.

I know you were being sarcastic. Since I have Francis blocked, I had to quote you as I didn't see his dumb lost until then.
 
Dear Blake James,

This is why you don't schedule these games. Win, you're suppose to win. Lose, it's the "biggest upset" of the year. We gain nothing from playing this game.

Sincerely,
Common Sense

It was this, or play 2 FCS teams. UNC played 2 FCS teams last year and got killed for it, and if they would have won the ACC, UNC would have been left out of the playoff because of it. It's not ideal, but it's not like Blake sought them out, or turned down better options. We had no options. They were literally the only FBS school with an open date, and they needed a home game this year.

If that's the case, I retract my statement.
 
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And to get the intended goal, you would want the most realistic looking line to get a 50/50 split, no? They may not be trying to pick an exact outcome, but that becomes an unintended consequence.

You have a desired result (50/50 money split) which may lead to a certain outcome.

It isn't a guaranteed result. The spread follows the money, not the outcome. Things change (injuries, suspensions, weather etc.) and as a result people change their decisions.

Also, if the spread changes (which it goes up and/or down or stays the same), when do we judge? At the end of the week right before the game? At that point, the spread has been set and then shifted for awhile and the only thing Vegas is doing is trying to even the money. Once they set it (by the experts in Vegas) all their doing is balancing the money.

My point is that the outcome of the game and the spread (should they match or not) is a random occurrence and not the intended purpose.

Side note: Not sure what is considered close either. If the goal (like you said) was to hit the outcome and you don't hit, is it close? If the favorite is favored by 2 and loses by 1, is that close? Sure it is 3 points but the underdog won.
 
This is pathetic. They don't have a single guy on that roster that we recruited or would have signed. Let that sink in.

Is their coaching that much better than ours where the game is virtually a toss up when they don't have a single player we wanted to sign? I hope not. We should fck these bytches really hard.

What about the difference in altitude?

I have Francis blocked, but that's some solid reasoning there and typical of all he is, a **** talker. While ASU doesn't have as good of a coach as Houston, how did that same premise work out for Houston's opponents last year? How did that work out for FSU against them? I don't believe FSU prior to their matchup recruited any of Houston's players. What about Houston's week one matchup? Same thing.

ASU had a good coach who will move up at some point and they are used to doing what they do. They played Tennessee into OT, should've won the game. They played the Vols closer than the Hokies did.

I would take Richt over their coach and our players. I would take Fuente over their coach and his players as well. Still, like the Hokies we've got a whole new playbook we're using and lost some players at places we were already thin or unproven at to begin with.

I expect to win by two TD's, but don't think ASU is someone this fanbase should overlook. I doubt the coaches are looking at it as a gimme either.

We should win,

I was being sarcastic you mook.

I know you were being sarcastic. Since I have Francis blocked, I had to quote you as I didn't see his dumb lost until then.

I don't care about your personal life.
 
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