Miami opens as 3.5 point favorite vs. App. St

[mossmadness]

The Belt is ranked higher than the C-USA right now. If you knew anything about the entirety of CFB and not just the newly coined term Power 5 (an ESPN creation no less), you'd know that the talent gap didn't suddenly just appear out of no where. This is one division, FBS, and you are visiting a place that will likely be louder than everywhere you play except Virginia Tech and UNC. A natural amphitheater keeps sound in quite nicely.

Should win by 20+, but playing an option team, in the rain, isn't an ideal situation for Miami.

lollll

 

[ericsaid]

This is pathetic. They don't have a single guy on that roster that we recruited or would have signed. Let that sink in.

Is their coaching that much better than ours where the game is virtually a toss up when they don't have a single player we wanted to sign? I hope not. We should fck these bytches really hard.

I think I saw that they have 1 or 2 guys in PFFs top 100

I'm not talking about now. You don't recruit guys after they've been on a college team for several years. We didn't recruit anyone on that team. Therefore, we should hammer them. It's pretty simple. Jimmys and Joes.

Or do you worriers think Satterfield is some hidden genius HC and better than Rick?

Which is it? Do they have better players than us or better coaches? Or both?

Saying we should smash somebody because we didn't recruit any of their players is absolutely stupid. It's not like this is a team from Florida. Also what does it matter how good they were as recruits?

They're not going to beat us, but you're making it seem like they have no one that could play on our team, which isn't true, mainly because their OL is their strongest position group, and one we aren't exactly great at.

No. What's absolutely stupid is your weak brain that processes information from a position of fear. Anyone who thinks a team full of 2 stars should beat a team that recruits a top 20 class every year is an idiot.

This is ultimately a players' game, and we have a massive advantage there. On top of that, we have the better staff. So where's the advantage that makes a sissy's lip quiver? A 23k seat stadium?

You actually have to take into account the way that players fit within a system. A football team is no different than a piece of machinery in the sense that if the pieces are tied together, however expensive they may be, the machine may not operate at full efficiency. You can buy some cheap parts that actually fit together a bit better that operate far more efficiently and even will challenge the machine made up of more expensive parts in output, from even lesser input.

It's all about processes and inputs. If you recruit to the strength of your scheme, you can compete with anyone. FAU played a game that involved running a balanced spread attack with a very basic blocking scheme that left offensive linemen on an island. App will use their scheme to get around that and will often be running behind double teams, which one guy will release and move up to the linebackers followed by an H-Back who is blocking a crashing safety. Guards will pull, there will be misdirection PA passes to the opposite side of the action to the H-back.

It's all very much mental for the defense in guarding that type of offense as simply being physically more imposing won't matter if it's neutralized through forcing players into making decisions rather than reacting.

My reasoning for claiming App was running a vanilla offense in week 1 and 2 is that you saw very little of the above mentioned plays. These are the types of plays that are run in conference play when the gloves come off and I expect the gloves to come off on Saturday in regards to ways to get the passing game going. As I stated before, Lamb didn't score 37 TD's last season on a whim.

 

[ericsaid]

We should win this by 20+.

Seriously, no one would be worried or know who Appalachian State was if they didn't upset Michigan in 2007. A Michigan team quarterbacked by wunderkind Chad Henne and coached by the Larry Coker...er...Lloyd Carr (Admittedly, not much difference between the two).

We're worried about a Sun Belt team? This is what Miami football has rapidly deformed to? I know the Golden years were rough, but shytting our collective pants about a team from the Sun Belt???

The Belt is ranked higher than the C-USA right now. If you knew anything about the entirety of CFB and not just the newly coined term Power 5 (an ESPN creation no less), you'd know that the talent gap didn't suddenly just appear out of no where. This is one division, FBS, and you are visiting a place that will likely be louder than everywhere you play except Virginia Tech and UNC. A natural amphitheater keeps sound in quite nicely.

Should win by 20+, but playing an option team, in the rain, isn't an ideal situation for Miami.

What?

This season, most of your games with a lot of crowd involvement are at home. Virginia Tech is always rocking and Tar Hole fans, regardless of how much I dislike them, had high hopes going in to the season. I expect that place to be rocking as well.

 

[ericsaid]

The Belt is ranked higher than the C-USA right now. If you knew anything about the entirety of CFB and not just the newly coined term Power 5 (an ESPN creation no less), you'd know that the talent gap didn't suddenly just appear out of no where. This is one division, FBS, and you are visiting a place that will likely be louder than everywhere you play except Virginia Tech and UNC. A natural amphitheater keeps sound in quite nicely.

MIAMIShould win by 20+, but playing an option team, in the rain, isn't an ideal situation for Miami.

lollll

I meant that Miami should win by 20+, but there are a few equalizers in football; the option and weather.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

The only reason this hillbilly keeps posting is because he's deluded himself into thinking App Store will win, so he's planning his little victory march here post game.

Just a straight up troll job.

Can't wait until we smack that billy *** and send these clowns back to their mediocre position in football.

 

[mossmadness]

I meant that Miami should win by 20+, but there are a few equalizers in football; the option and weather.

I'm laughing at the idea of your stadium being some some loud amphitheater, making it louder than all the other stadiums Miami plays in.

 

[LuCane]

We should win this by 20+.

Seriously, no one would be worried or know who Appalachian State was if they didn't upset Michigan in 2007. A Michigan team quarterbacked by wunderkind Chad Henne and coached by the Larry Coker...er...Lloyd Carr (Admittedly, not much difference between the two).

We're worried about a Sun Belt team? This is what Miami football has rapidly deformed to? I know the Golden years were rough, but shytting our collective pants about a team from the Sun Belt???

The Belt is ranked higher than the C-USA right now. If you knew anything about the entirety of CFB and not just the newly coined term Power 5 (an ESPN creation no less), you'd know that the talent gap didn't suddenly just appear out of no where. This is one division, FBS, and you are visiting a place that will likely be louder than everywhere you play except Virginia Tech and UNC. A natural amphitheater keeps sound in quite nicely.

Should win by 20+, but playing an option team, in the rain, isn't an ideal situation for Miami.

What?

This season, most of your games with a lot of crowd involvement are at home. Virginia Tech is always rocking and Tar Hole fans, regardless of how much I dislike them, had high hopes going in to the season. I expect that place to be rocking as well.

We go play at Notre Dame. Their capacity is just over 80,000 and have sold out 249 games in a row.

Whatever happens on Saturday, crowd noise ("loudness") will unlikely be the primary source of trouble relative to our schedule and upcoming experiences.

 

[mossmadness]

You actually have to take into account the way that players fit within a system. A football team is no different than a piece of machinery in the sense that if the pieces are tied together, however expensive they may be, the machine may not operate at full efficiency. You can buy some cheap parts that actually fit together a bit better that operate far more efficiently and even will challenge the machine made up of more expensive parts in output, from even lesser input.

It's all about processes and inputs. If you recruit to the strength of your scheme, you can compete with anyone. FAU played a game that involved running a balanced spread attack with a very basic blocking scheme that left offensive linemen on an island. App will use their scheme to get around that and will often be running behind double teams, which one guy will release and move up to the linebackers followed by an H-Back who is blocking a crashing safety. Guards will pull, there will be misdirection PA passes to the opposite side of the action to the H-back.

It's all very much mental for the defense in guarding that type of offense as simply being physically more imposing won't matter if it's neutralized through forcing players into making decisions rather than reacting.

My reasoning for claiming App was running a vanilla offense in week 1 and 2 is that you saw very little of the above mentioned plays. These are the types of plays that are run in conference play when the gloves come off and I expect the gloves to come off on Saturday in regards to ways to get the passing game going. As I stated before, Lamb didn't score 37 TD's last season on a whim.

lolllll @ you believing any of this. You're pretty good!
Do you really think that all of these teams recruiting 4 star players aren't recruiting players that "fit the system"??? GTFOOH. Your post would make sense if that was the case. But instead it's everybody recruiting to fit their system, and recruiting better players than what you have.
And please stop with the idea that you purposely held back your entire passing game against Tenn. because you were waiting to unveil it against a better team. You held it back because your passing game sucks. So it would have been a detriment to your chances of winning. Period. To argue otherwise is just idiotic.

 

[ericsaid]

I meant that Miami should win by 20+, but there are a few equalizers in football; the option and weather.

I'm laughing at the idea of your stadium being some some loud amphitheater, making it louder than all the other stadiums Miami plays in.

Your reading comprehension skills astound me. Whilst in my little cabin back in the hills, momma used to read to me and daddy every night, that way I could some day grow up and move out of this small dusty **** hole and make something of myself.

I said it would likely be louder than everywhere you play this season, other than Blacksburg and Chapel **** Hole.

 

[Caniac16]

I meant that Miami should win by 20+, but there are a few equalizers in football; the option and weather.

I'm laughing at the idea of your stadium being some some loud amphitheater, making it louder than all the other stadiums Miami plays in.

Your reading comprehension skills astound me. Whilst in my little cabin back in the hills, momma used to read to me and daddy every night, that way I could some day grow up and move out of this small dusty **** hole and make something of myself.

I said it would likely be louder than everywhere you play this season, other than Blacksburg and Chapel **** Hole.

We're at home against Chapel Hill. Guess your parents didn't teach you to read very well.

 

[ericsaid]

You actually have to take into account the way that players fit within a system. A football team is no different than a piece of machinery in the sense that if the pieces are tied together, however expensive they may be, the machine may not operate at full efficiency. You can buy some cheap parts that actually fit together a bit better that operate far more efficiently and even will challenge the machine made up of more expensive parts in output, from even lesser input.

It's all about processes and inputs. If you recruit to the strength of your scheme, you can compete with anyone. FAU played a game that involved running a balanced spread attack with a very basic blocking scheme that left offensive linemen on an island. App will use their scheme to get around that and will often be running behind double teams, which one guy will release and move up to the linebackers followed by an H-Back who is blocking a crashing safety. Guards will pull, there will be misdirection PA passes to the opposite side of the action to the H-back.

It's all very much mental for the defense in guarding that type of offense as simply being physically more imposing won't matter if it's neutralized through forcing players into making decisions rather than reacting.

My reasoning for claiming App was running a vanilla offense in week 1 and 2 is that you saw very little of the above mentioned plays. These are the types of plays that are run in conference play when the gloves come off and I expect the gloves to come off on Saturday in regards to ways to get the passing game going. As I stated before, Lamb didn't score 37 TD's last season on a whim.

lolllll @ you believing any of this. You're pretty good!
Do you really think that all of these teams recruiting 4 star players aren't recruiting players that "fit the system"??? GTFOOH. Your post would make sense if that was the case. But instead it's everybody recruiting to fit their system, and recruiting better players than what you have.
And please stop with the idea that you purposely held back your entire passing game against Tenn. because you were waiting to unveil it against a better team. You held it back because your passing game sucks. So it would have been a detriment to your chances of winning. Period. To argue otherwise is just idiotic.

The passing game isn't as bad as you might think. As I said, Lamb scored 37 TD's last season, based on the above mentioned type play calls that weren't in use the past two weeks. Regardless, you have your mind made up and I'm not here to change it; only here to give you some information in regards to what you may see, whether it is effective or not in action is up for debate. The idea against Tennessee was obvious, run the ball to run clock and play solid defense. Tennessee's game plan was the exact same and outside of one offensive play for Tennessee, App was better at it.

I don't have to convince myself that App WILL beat Miami because that isn't how I operate. The fact that App COULD beat Miami is actually settling into reality. I doubt App wins the game, but the game will be far more competitive than you think and the atmosphere is going to be completely different than what you would expect at a Sun Belt school.

 

[ericsaid]

I meant that Miami should win by 20+, but there are a few equalizers in football; the option and weather.

I'm laughing at the idea of your stadium being some some loud amphitheater, making it louder than all the other stadiums Miami plays in.

Your reading comprehension skills astound me. Whilst in my little cabin back in the hills, momma used to read to me and daddy every night, that way I could some day grow up and move out of this small dusty **** hole and make something of myself.

I said it would likely be louder than everywhere you play this season, other than Blacksburg and Chapel **** Hole.

We're at home against Chapel Hill. Guess your parents didn't teach you to read very well.

Checked the schedule to make sure my comments were correct so I suppose I missed that. My mistake.

 

[ericsaid]

We should win this by 20+.

Seriously, no one would be worried or know who Appalachian State was if they didn't upset Michigan in 2007. A Michigan team quarterbacked by wunderkind Chad Henne and coached by the Larry Coker...er...Lloyd Carr (Admittedly, not much difference between the two).

We're worried about a Sun Belt team? This is what Miami football has rapidly deformed to? I know the Golden years were rough, but shytting our collective pants about a team from the Sun Belt???

The Belt is ranked higher than the C-USA right now. If you knew anything about the entirety of CFB and not just the newly coined term Power 5 (an ESPN creation no less), you'd know that the talent gap didn't suddenly just appear out of no where. This is one division, FBS, and you are visiting a place that will likely be louder than everywhere you play except Virginia Tech and UNC. A natural amphitheater keeps sound in quite nicely.

Should win by 20+, but playing an option team, in the rain, isn't an ideal situation for Miami.

What?

This season, most of your games with a lot of crowd involvement are at home. Virginia Tech is always rocking and Tar Hole fans, regardless of how much I dislike them, had high hopes going in to the season. I expect that place to be rocking as well.

We go play at Notre Dame. Their capacity is just over 80,000 and have sold out 249 games in a row.

Whatever happens on Saturday, crowd noise ("loudness") will unlikely be the primary source of trouble relative to our schedule and upcoming experiences.

I meant Notre Dame, not Chapel Hill. Regardless, my comment still stands.

 

[mossmadness]

I said it would likely be louder than everywhere you play this season, other than Blacksburg and Chapel **** Hole.

Except you didn't say "this season." If I said Miami will be the toughest opponent to visit Boone, that phrase does contain the limiting qualifier "this season." I'm speaking in the general sense. You've never played a tougher opponent in Boone. Ever.
And the fact that you are saying "this season" makes it even funnier. You aren't even pretending like your stadium is loud. It's like saying you are the toughest opponent we have played in the first three weeks. Is that true? Yes. Does that mean you are inherently tough? No. Your toughness would have to exist independent of the first two opponents, because they aren't tough.
If you want to say you are the third loudest stadium we will play in, fine. I'll buy that for stake of argument. Although i still laugh at your stadium being louder than ND and some of these others. But even buying that argument, that doesn't mean the stadium will be loud. It just means, as you said, we have a favorable home schedule.

 

[ericsaid]

The only reason this hillbilly keeps posting is because he's deluded himself into thinking App Store will win, so he's planning his little victory march here post game.

Just a straight up troll job.

Can't wait until we smack that billy *** and send these clowns back to their mediocre position in football.

So i'm a troll, hillbilly from the little ol' backwoods of North Carolina with a Bachelor's Degree. What a scary proposition for society.

The definition of mediocrity during the 21st Century is going to send App back to mediocrity. :Y-u-no:

 

[CaneandAbel]

App state converts 3rd downs at a 19% rate. Vanilla or not, thats terrible.

 

[mossmadness]

The passing game isn't as bad as you might think. As I said, Lamb scored 37 TD's last season, based on the above mentioned type play calls that weren't in use the past two weeks. Regardless, you have your mind made up and I'm not here to change it; only here to give you some information in regards to what you may see, whether it is effective or not in action is up for debate. The idea against Tennessee was obvious, run the ball to run clock and play solid defense. Tennessee's game plan was the exact same and outside of one offensive play for Tennessee, App was better at it.

My mind isn't made up, you just aren't very intelligent, so not capable of changing it.
The "game plan" against Tenn. was obvious. Bleed the clock, avoid negative plays, avoid getting behind the sticks. But that isn't the purpose of an offense. The purpose of an offense is to score. Those things became the obvious purpose of your offense when it becamse obvious scoring was going to be difficult. And scoring was going to be difficult because you couldn't pass the football. Your coach knew this. So he didn't try. Because passing the football was just going to result in negatie plays and getting behind the sticks. But I promise you. If your coach thought he was capable of passing the football, he would have. Your coach's gameplan was not to score 13 points and that be enough to win.

 

[Canes21]

LOL

You have a Bachelor's Degree. Congrats? Is that an accomplishment these days still?

 

[ericsaid]

I said it would likely be louder than everywhere you play this season, other than Blacksburg and Chapel **** Hole.

Except you didn't this "this season." If I said Miami will be the toughest opponent to visit Boone, that phrase does contain the limiting qualifier "this season." I'm speaking in the general sense. You've never played a tougher opponent in Boone. Ever.
And the fact that you are saying "this season" makes it even funnier. You aren't even pretending like your stadium is loud. It's like saying you are the toughest opponent we have played in the first three weeks. Is that true? Yes. Does that mean you are inherently tough? No. Your toughness would have to exist independent of the first two opponents, because they aren't tough.
If you want to say you are the third loudest stadium we will play in, fine. I'll buy that for stake of argument. Although i still laugh at your stadium being louder than ND and some of these others. But even buying that argument, that doesn't mean the stadium will be loud. It just means, as you said, we have a favorable home schedule.

App has played a tougher schedule thus far than Miami has. Your freshman linebackers have been tested by two very basic offenses that is extremely similar to what they saw in high school. This week will be much different as the coverage they must play will be far more cerebral and if they aren't prepared, they will get beat. If you allow the offensive line to get to the second level, Cox will find the hole and rip off a 40 yard run seemingly out of no where. It happened against Clemson, it happened against Tennessee, and for the most part it wasn't limited to running towards one side of the play or the other.

App isn't going to be louder than ND, Chapel Hill, Clemson, Virginia Tech or State. However you only play at two of those placed this season. Thus, in the context of this season with these players, this will be one of the more vocal crowds you'll have to play. 38,000 people may not sound like a lot but with capacity at only 24,000, these sounds are far more condensed than if you have 35,000 in a 50,000 seat stadium. The nature of sound dictates that it will be amplified, rather than diminishing into empty space around the stadium.

For the record: I expect Miami to win this game. I expect App to be far more competitive than what I am reading that Miami fan's think. You'll learn more from this than the last two games combined and should have a decent barometer of where your freshman linebackers stand in regards to playing option football prior to traveling to Atlanta. Regardless of the outcome in Boone, it is better to get a spread option, while different than GT's, prior to playing the Yellow Jackets due to the youth you guys have playing.

 

[ericsaid]

LOL

You have a Bachelor's Degree. Congrats? Is that an accomplishment these days still?

Well when you're called a hillbilly and I have to come up with some silly narrative regarding my momma reading to me in a one room cabin by candlelight in the backwoods, yes.